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coffeebean 05-31-2021 09:54 AM

Interested in cruising from a Florida port?
 
Good news! Read about it here..........
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Is Crafting A Cruise Line Exemption For His Vaccine Passport Ban

Bill14564 05-31-2021 10:07 AM

Being wishy-washy and reinterpreting what it means to be in International waters is a terrible solution; DeSantis should stick to his guns.

Stu from NYC 05-31-2021 10:09 AM

Hope that all passengers and crew have to be vaccinated so we can cruise without a mask while on the ship.

If we need mask do not think we will cruise.

kcrazorbackfan 05-31-2021 10:25 AM

There are too many things to do on land; no cruises for us. Will not chance getting stuck on a boat if a bunch come down sick.

oldtimes 05-31-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1953103)
Being wishy-washy and reinterpreting what it means to be in International waters is a terrible solution; DeSantis should stick to his guns.

He is trying to do what is best for the economy of Florida. There are a lot of people that depend on the cruise ports for their livelyhood and some of the countries/islands that the cruise ships dock at may not allow un-vaccinated entry.

duffysmom 05-31-2021 11:15 AM

:a040::a040::a040::coolsmiley:

Garywt 05-31-2021 11:16 AM

This might be good for other businesses but it might keep the cruise industry out of Florida. Since cruising is different than most anything else it should be no shot, no cruising.

rjm1cc 05-31-2021 11:21 AM

I think an exception makes sence. Espically since you are going to different ports that may require documentations. Going on a cruise is different than going to the food store or hardware so I can see different options for each.

Mortal1 05-31-2021 11:24 AM

Oh joy. Another person who thinks everyone wants to know they got their shot....yawn....

billethkid 05-31-2021 12:28 PM

Vaccination requirements have been around for years and has not been a big deal like it is being made to be today.

If one does not meet the vaccination requirements they do not get in or get to go.

Not a big deal (until being politicized).

Aloha1 05-31-2021 02:30 PM

As with the border crisis and the inability to find anyone to work the over 8 million available jobs, the Florida vaccine law invoked the Law Of Unintended Consequences.

The Governor had the good sense to realize this and is crafting a favorable resolution for the cruise lines and all the on shore jobs they provide.

justjim 05-31-2021 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1953156)
Vaccination requirements have been around for years and has not been a big deal like it is being made to be today.

If one does not meet the vaccination requirements they do not get in or get to go.

Not a big deal (until being politicized).

You are spot on. :popcorn:

Skunky1 06-01-2021 05:05 AM

It is totally up to the captain who he lets on the ship. I truly think the federal government should weigh in on this just like they have mandated mask for the airports and airplanes.

Annie66 06-01-2021 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1953103)
Being wishy-washy and reinterpreting what it means to be in International waters is a terrible solution; DeSantis should stick to his guns.

And ultimately, the cruise lines have the right to pull out of Florida ports. I would not put this past them if things really get dicey.

Nannyof3 06-01-2021 05:53 AM

this IS important. many jobs rely on the cruise industry.

allsport 06-01-2021 05:58 AM

He needs to follow the science, no vaccine mandate, never cruise again.

Leadbone1 06-01-2021 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1953099)

Just heard the governor this morning and I think some of you folks have it backwards. He is telling the cruise lines that they cannot require proof of vaccination for those leaving on cruises from Florida ports. It violates Florida law and there will be a fine of $5000 per day per person for whom they try to require this. I’m vaccinated and already booked for a cruise. It makes no difference to me if the others on the boat are vaccinated or not. I took care of me, which is the only thing I have a right to do!
If I truly were worried about all that then I wouldn’t even be doing cruising!

Leadbone1 06-01-2021 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 1953130)
This might be good for other businesses but it might keep the cruise industry out of Florida. Since cruising is different than most anything else it should be no shot, no cruising.

Wrong. Sounds like you have drank the Kool-Aid. We are still Americans and have personal choice. I’m vaccinated, but people that choose not to take it for whatever reasons should not be punished or kept from being able to do the same things I can do.

Girlcopper 06-01-2021 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 1953119)
He is trying to do what is best for the economy of Florida. There are a lot of people that depend on the cruise ports for their livelyhood and some of the countries/islands that the cruise ships dock at may not allow un-vaccinated entry.

Very true and some of the islands arent as strict with distancing and safety protocols. Or even cleanliness. So, yes, get vaccinated or stay off the ship and let the rest of us finally get back to cruising.

heenables 06-01-2021 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1953336)
Very true and some of the islands arent as strict with distancing and safety protocols. Or even cleanliness. So, yes, get vaccinated or stay off the ship and let the rest of us finally get back to cruising.

What happens when you need your booster mid cruise? :-) "Get vaccinated or stay off the ship". Who do you think you are? Think about what you are saying before you type. NO ONE needs to get "Vaccinated". It's not mandatory and you sign any implications of the multitude of health and death risks away when you get it by your own choice. You people are straight sheep regurgitating things you hear with zero understanding of what you are talking about. I hope you have a great day by the way.

kenoc7 06-01-2021 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1953305)
Just heard the governor this morning and I think some of you folks have it backwards. He is telling the cruise lines that they cannot require proof of vaccination for those leaving on cruises from Florida ports. It violates Florida law and there will be a fine of $5000 per day per person for whom they try to require this. I’m vaccinated and already booked for a cruise. It makes no difference to me if the others on the boat are vaccinated or not. I took care of me, which is the only thing I have a right to do!
If I truly were worried about all that then I wouldn’t even be doing cruising!

You also have a responsibility for the common good.

Andyb 06-01-2021 07:05 AM

Violates Hippa laws, unconstitutional. Lawsuits coming. Some people (sheeple) need to quit letting the media and government drive your fears.

mikemalloy 06-01-2021 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1953305)
Just heard the governor this morning and I think some of you folks have it backwards. He is telling the cruise lines that they cannot require proof of vaccination for those leaving on cruises from Florida ports. It violates Florida law and there will be a fine of $5000 per day per person for whom they try to require this. I’m vaccinated and already booked for a cruise. It makes no difference to me if the others on the boat are vaccinated or not. I took care of me, which is the only thing I have a right to do!
If I truly were worried about all that then I wouldn’t even be doing cruising!

I'm vaccinated but every time I fly I have to wear a mask because others are not vaccinated. If I'm on a cruise ship and an outbreak occurs among the unvaccinated we will not be allowed to embark at some ports. When we return there will undoubtedly be some type of quarantine. The CDC is now requiring that cruises sail from US ports do so with crew and almost all passengers be vaccinated. Sometime between now and sailing there will have to be some resolution of the conflict between the CDC and Fla. law.

Kmorrell 06-01-2021 07:11 AM

Like what?

La lamy 06-01-2021 07:26 AM

Cruising is a situation where people getting deathly sick affects everyone on board. I'm not a fan of vaccine passports, but for this scene where a cruise has to be derailed to get sick passengers off, it may warrant vaccination proof.

Linnberg 06-01-2021 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 1953366)
Violates Hippa laws, unconstitutional. Lawsuits coming. Some people (sheeple) need to quit letting the media and government drive your fears.

Will your lawsuit include seat belts, drivers license,
Passports, vaccinations required to enter certain countries (ie: Yellow Fever), school required vaccinations. And all other government laws for good of all over
Individual rights?

Pat2015 06-01-2021 07:42 AM

CDC has already come out and said that masks aren’t required on cruises in their most recent ever changing guidelines, so that was good news.

Pat2015 06-01-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1953133)
I think an exception makes sence. Espically since you are going to different ports that may require documentations. Going on a cruise is different than going to the food store or hardware so I can see different options for each.

Agree! This is no different than people going to MCO that are traveling to a place that requires proof of vaccinations where you have to show that you have been vaccinated, just like showing a passport to fly out of the country. No airlines have refused to fly out of Orlando that require vaccinations based on passenger destinations, and cruising is no different as there are definitely going to be places that the ships are going to that require vaccinations. Looking forward to cruising and going to Europe again! 😊

talonip 06-01-2021 08:02 AM

Vaccine misinformation.
 
Good morning. Gotta post this. According to the CDC and the VAIRS reporting system there have been over 12000 FULLY vaccinated individuals that have contracted covid and some have died. Many of you think this so called vaccine is bulletproof. What is the covid survival rate?
There will be covid cases on these ships. All you need is one and the whole cruise industry will shut down. Why? Fear and misinformation.

Joe C. 06-01-2021 08:30 AM

I never needed to be vaccinated to go on a cruise before, so why start now?
I’m ready to cruise today. No worries whatsoever.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-01-2021 08:40 AM

It should be up to the cruise line to determine what they do and don't allow on their own ship, as long as they comply with federal law. If there is a federal mandate for masks, then passengers on ships that are in US waters or at the docks should be masked. If there's a state mandate for masks, the same, with regards to docking at that state's ports.

But if the state doesn't FORBID its own citizens to vaccinate or wear masks, then they can't expect any commercial entity to forbid it - including cruise ships. They also can't expect cruise ships to require it, unless the state has an actual mandate for all commercial enterprises where the public gather.

I'm looking forward to cruising again. But we stopped cruising because we couldn't afford the luxury. Next time we can afford it, I'm thinking we'll go full throttle - elegance, intimate environment, first-class cuisine, higher staff:passenger ratio, on a river cruise.

toeser 06-01-2021 08:44 AM

I have supported 90% of what DeSantis has done. Here we part company. He has to cave on this or cost Florida a fortune. I have two cruises booked and no way do I want to be trapped on a ship with people who have not been vaccinated.

Villages Kahuna 06-01-2021 09:06 AM

So who’s science do you believe? Ron Desantis, who has been “open everything up” going back to the beginning of the pandemic?

Or the scientists, epidemiologists and doctors in the CDC, who continue to recommend no foreign travel and no cruising, even from U.S. ports?

I know what my choice is.

Fieldsaj 06-01-2021 09:19 AM

Who pays for Covid hospital stays
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heenables (Post 1953362)
What happens when you need your booster mid cruise? :-) "Get vaccinated or stay off the ship". Who do you think you are? Think about what you are saying before you type. NO ONE needs to get "Vaccinated". It's not mandatory and you sign any implications of the multitude of health and death risks away when you get it by your own choice. You people are straight sheep regurgitating things you hear with zero understanding of what you are talking about. I hope you have a great day by the way.

So with or without a vaccine, one is still responsible for hospital expenses. I heard that hospitals are getting aggressive on collecting fees that insurance companies are not accepting.
Figures show that not getting the vaccine has a 55 times greater risk of dying over dying from getting the vaccine. As Dirty Harry said, “How lucky do you feel, punk?”

mark100 06-01-2021 09:20 AM

Absolutely not.

mikemalloy 06-01-2021 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 1953366)
Violates Hippa laws, unconstitutional. Lawsuits coming. Some people (sheeple) need to quit letting the media and government drive your fears.

How does requiring passengers to disclose their vaccination history a violation of HIPPA? If you choose you can not cruise. There's no RIGHT to cruise. Oh and just what Article or Amendment of the Constitution is violated?

Spalumbos62 06-01-2021 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1953329)
Wrong. Sounds like you have drank the Kool-Aid. We are still Americans and have personal choice. I’m vaccinated, but people that choose not to take it for whatever reasons should not be punished or kept from being able to do the same things I can do.


Nope, nada...wrong.
No shot...you don't get on

Stu from NYC 06-01-2021 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1953420)
I never needed to be vaccinated to go on a cruise before, so why start now?
I’m ready to cruise today. No worries whatsoever.

The reason to start now is the virus Covid 19.

Spalumbos62 06-01-2021 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heenables (Post 1953362)
What happens when you need your booster mid cruise? :-) "Get vaccinated or stay off the ship". Who do you think you are? Think about what you are saying before you type. NO ONE needs to get "Vaccinated". It's not mandatory and you sign any implications of the multitude of health and death risks away when you get it by your own choice. You people are straight sheep regurgitating things you hear with zero understanding of what you are talking about. I hope you have a great day by the way.


0% that's how much I agree with you. These are not Fl's ships. If they say no shot, no entry... that's how it goes.. thank God.
After all we have been through, who in God's name would enter onto a vessel without this rule.
We did the right thing...we quarantined, we got vaccinated, we waited.....now we live. And it's very well deserved. All the complainers that say we are just sheep...well we will wave from the port.

Bill14564 06-01-2021 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1953462)
0% that's how much I agree with you. These are not Fl's ships. If they say no shot, no entry... that's how it goes.. thank God.
After all we have been through, who in God's name would enter onto a vessel without this rule.
We did the right thing...we quarantined, we got vaccinated, we waited.....now we live. And it's very well deserved. All the complainers that say we are just sheep...well we will wave from the port.

I would.

My decision now is whether or not to patronize cruise lines or any other establishment that attempt to coerce me to get vaccinated.


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