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Boffin 06-03-2021 11:33 AM

The Villages hospital crippled by ransomware attack
 
UF Health-The Villages Hospital has been forced to operate by pen and paper thanks to a ransomware attack which has shut down the computer system.

The hospital has not officially acknowledged the attack, but an official with knowledge of the situation confirmed what has taken place, both at the hospital in The Villages and Leesburg Regional Medical Center.

Both hospitals operate under the UF Health system. Other hospitals in that system are reportedly not impacted and functioning normally.

dewilson58 06-03-2021 11:39 AM

Cut & Paste a rumor. :ohdear:

Becca9800 06-03-2021 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1954341)
Cut & Paste a rumor. :ohdear:

Hoping you're right bc that would be a nightmare.

Front page news @ https://www.**************.com/

WHY will TOTV not allow me to paste a link to the source @ Villages News?

dewilson58 06-03-2021 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1954344)
Hoping you're right bc that would be a nightmare.

Front page news @ https://www.**************.com/

WHY will TOTV not allow me to paste a link to the source @ Villages News?

ToTV never has allowed the like.
Jus call it, the anti-Villages online "news" site.
:clap2:

stanley 06-03-2021 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1954341)
Cut & Paste a rumor. :ohdear:

Still from the other place but

The Villages hospital crippled by ransomware attack - News Break

Villageswimmer 06-03-2021 11:57 AM

If the other “news” outlet had revealed its source, this story would carry some credibility.

dewilson58 06-03-2021 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1954348)

I know.
It's a rumor.

stanley 06-03-2021 12:03 PM

It's quite possible
Federal Agencies Warn of Ransomware Attacks on US Hospitals

Becca9800 06-03-2021 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1954345)
ToTV never has allowed the like.
Jus call it, the anti-Villages online "news" site.
:clap2:

My impression of Villages News has been.... what a rag. Just the stories they put out, many of which seemingly have a purpose only to shame. Why does it need to be made public that a man lost his head and fought with his 35-year wedded wife. Why do I need to know, or care, that a couple was arrested for having intimate relations in the Square? Or that an adult child of a Village resident was arrested for whatever?

Sooo I'm thinking my impression was correct. No? Next point of clarification requested: I've seen references on TOTV to "the other" site.... why is that site referred to that way? I haven't figured out why the name is never used. Let me in on the secret!!

dewilson58 06-03-2021 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1954374)
Next point of clarification requested: I've seen references on TOTV to "the other" site.... why is that site referred to that way? I haven't figured out why the name is never used. Let me in on the secret!!

Online advertising dollar competition.

laboutj 06-03-2021 01:46 PM

Not a rumor. May not be 'pen and paper' as that news source said, but it happened.

Carla B 06-03-2021 01:55 PM

Becca9800: The online news is referred to as "the other site" because when it began we'd weren't allowed to refer to it by its name. Guess it still is that way.

justjim 06-03-2021 02:18 PM

UF Leesburg Hospital
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 1954338)
UF Health-The Villages Hospital has been forced to operate by pen and paper thanks to a ransomware attack which has shut down the computer system.

The hospital has not officially acknowledged the attack, but an official with knowledge of the situation confirmed what has taken place, both at the hospital in The Villages and Leesburg Regional Medical Center.

Both hospitals operate under the UF Health system. Other hospitals in that system are reportedly not impacted and functioning normally.

I was visiting a friend yesterday at UF Leesburg Hospital shortly after noon and the computers were inoperable. I wasn’t given a reason, nor ask for one so your guess is as good as mine. I will say the staff seemed very concern and the situation rather chaotic. Was it a cyber attack or just another internal computer system problem?

Becca9800 06-03-2021 02:18 PM

Thanks for the explanations. But I'm still not getting it.

It sounds as if
1. TOTV owns Village News and we can't reference the other site by name bc of online advertising competition. But that doesn't make sense bc TOTV wouldn't allow me to paste a link to Village News on this site.
OR
2. no mention of business by name is allowed by TOTV. But that makes no sense either, businesses are mentioned by name constantly on this site.

So I'm missing something still. 5 years ago I would have gotten this but my snyapses aren't synapsing so good these days :doh:

justjim 06-03-2021 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1954345)
ToTV never has allowed the like.
Jus call it, the anti-Villages online "news" site.
:clap2:

The so called “other digital only paper” could be called anti-Daily Sun or an alternative to the Daily Sun. They do carry “letters to the editor” both pro and con regarding the Villages Developer. As said, there is usually two sides to most opinions and stories.

justjim 06-03-2021 02:44 PM

Source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1954350)
If the other “news” outlet had revealed its source, this story would carry some credibility.

Many “news” outlets do not reveal their sources in order to protect the source. I’m not saying that is the case here nor have an opinion one way or the other.

dewilson58 06-03-2021 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1954397)
Many “news” outlets do not reveal their sources in order to protect the source. I’m not saying that is the case here nor have an opinion one way or the other.

The source was probably a hairdresser.
I you look at the site, they are asking for people to contact them if a peep knows anything.
Speaks volumes.
:1rotfl:

John41 06-03-2021 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 1954338)
UF Health-The Villages Hospital has been forced to operate by pen and paper thanks to a ransomware attack which has shut down the computer system.

The hospital has not officially acknowledged the attack, but an official with knowledge of the situation confirmed what has taken place, both at the hospital in The Villages and Leesburg Regional Medical Center.

Both hospitals operate under the UF Health system. Other hospitals in that system are reportedly not impacted and functioning normally.

Rumor has it the hackers are demanding an increase in the impact fee.

retiredguy123 06-03-2021 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1954374)
My impression of Villages News has been.... what a rag. Just the stories they put out, many of which seemingly have a purpose only to shame. Why does it need to be made public that a man lost his head and fought with his 35-year wedded wife. Why do I need to know, or care, that a couple was arrested for having intimate relations in the Square? Or that an adult child of a Village resident was arrested for whatever?

Sooo I'm thinking my impression was correct. No? Next point of clarification requested: I've seen references on TOTV to "the other" site.... why is that site referred to that way? I haven't figured out why the name is never used. Let me in on the secret!!

In most cases, they don't make it public because it is already public information. A lot of the stories are more interesting than the national stories shown on the 24 hour cable news TV channels.

vintageogauge 06-03-2021 05:17 PM

It was just on WESH news and they showed Leesburg and TV hospitals stating that both have been hacked. I would tend to believe their report.

jojo 06-03-2021 05:25 PM

I volunteer there on Tuesdays. It happened I was told at 10 pm Monday night and created huge problems. The staff were doing the best they could in very difficult circumstances.

graciegirl 06-03-2021 06:50 PM

The online news is more quick to report things that do not show Villagers in a good light. Meta Minton was Editor of The Daily Sun for many years before she started the "other" on line news. I know her and she is a bright person and a decent one too. She and her husband are avid bike riders and are good people.

I like to know who beats their wife and who gets arrested for drinking and driving. I am both a busy body and one who believes that telling things like that MAY deter more of it from happening.

If we all thought the same, what would we debate on here?

Northwoods 06-03-2021 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1954393)
The so called “other digital only paper” could be called anti-Daily Sun or an alternative to the Daily Sun. They do carry “letters to the editor” both pro and con regarding the Villages Developer. As said, there is usually two sides to most opinions and stories.

They carry both pro and con? Wow... I’m not sure what version I’ve been reading.
My opinion is “that online newspaper” is as anti-Developer as The Daily Sun is pro- developer.

Jrsgvsg60 06-04-2021 04:45 AM

I had test there and they performed all aspects from registration to test completely professional with very little extra time considering they were working like the good old days. No computers. Everything ran smoothly.

dewilson58 06-04-2021 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1954467)
I know her and she is a bright person and a decent one too.

I like to know who beats their wife and who gets arrested for drinking and driving. I am both a busy body and one who believes that telling things like that MAY deter more of it from happening.

Sarcasm Sheldon???

Allen Dronsfield 06-04-2021 06:02 AM

It's no rumor, I can officially state as the Leesburg Hospital people called me yesterday about my surgery this morning (Friday). They stated they had been hacked and were forced back to the old days of pen and paper..

mlmarr1 06-04-2021 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 1954338)
UF Health-The Villages Hospital has been forced to operate by pen and paper thanks to a ransomware attack which has shut down the computer system.

The hospital has not officially acknowledged the attack, but an official with knowledge of the situation confirm what has taken place, both at the hospital in The Villages and Leesburg Regional Medical Center.

Both hospitals operate under the UF Health system. Other hospitals in that system are reportedly not impacted and functioning normally.



its everywhere... cyberwarfare ... program used by many medical factifies compromised by a foreign entity .. just like the pipeline, meat packing companies..etc

MandoMan 06-04-2021 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1954374)
My impression of Villages News has been.... what a rag. Just the stories they put out, many of which seemingly have a purpose only to shame. Why does it need to be made public that a man lost his head and fought with his 35-year wedded wife. Why do I need to know, or care, that a couple was arrested for having intimate relations in the Square? Or that an adult child of a Village resident was arrested for whatever?

Sooo I'm thinking my impression was correct. No? Next point of clarification requested: I've seen references on TOTV to "the other" site.... why is that site referred to that way? I haven't figured out why the name is never used. Let me in on the secret!!

What I like about it, deplorable as it is, is that if there is a crime in the area, you can be sure it will be mentioned, accurately or not. As no crimes against homes in The Villages have been mentioned, to my knowledge, in the past year, I assume that there have been none. A tiny number of villagers are battering each other or driving under the influence, but our houses aren’t being burgled, and we aren’t being mugged, and that’s what I care about. There is occasional shoplifting at area stores on the outskirts, but the stores and police officers deal effectively with that, and I don’t see that sort of people in my neighborhood. I feel completely safe here. Crime happens in Leesburg, Wildwood, Ocala, etc. I avoid those places.

I find that if I take a hot shower and scrub with soap right after reading the rag, I can feel clean again. However, I try hard not to accidentally touch any of the click-bait ads. If I do, I might need extra scrubbing.

As for holding up pipelines and hospitals for ransom, perhaps we should hire some of the many hit men and hit women in television programs to quietly eliminate the hackers. Raymond Levington of The Blacklist, we need you! Hacking is utterly despicable.

Bcenter 06-04-2021 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1954351)
I know.
It's a rumor.

Not a rumor. Know people that work there. They are using pen and paper and the phones are out too. They have to use runners between departments. Very dangerous especially for critical patients. IMHO, as an RN, admissions and elective surgery should be put on hold

daca55 06-04-2021 06:38 AM

Should be Governments Top Prioty
 
I am not in the Villages at this time so I don’t know if the ransom happened or not. However it’s only a matter of time before these bandits cripple our countries essential systems which will affect all of us. Our country along with other countries of the world should gather the best Computer system experts and lead in putting a stop to these bandits before lots of people get hurt. To keep complying with their demands of payment has to stop. We need to tell our leaders that this has to be a priority and put a stop to this blackmailing now.

La lamy 06-04-2021 06:38 AM

I was sent a letter stating I owed the Villages hospital money which I know I don't. Always keep statements of any money paid. Didn't send money.

JMintzer 06-04-2021 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1954501)
Sarcasm Sheldon???

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.k...=0&w=329&h=186

KSSunshine 06-04-2021 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1954351)
I know.
It's a rumor.

Not sure where you get your information... My husband was at The Villages Hospital on Tuesday for Pre-surgery paperwork which was all done by hand as computers were down. On Wednesday, he had his surgery with computers and phones still down. Nursing staff entering information via paper charts. While I have no first hand knowledge of the cause, I can verify through direct observation that nursing staff was doing a phenomenal job (as did our surgeon and the OR staff). The "older" experienced nurses were mentoring the younger staff who hadn't needed to chart via paper prior to this. All were giving great effort and service. My point is that something major happened to cause the system to be down for two consecutive days.

FromNY 06-04-2021 06:50 AM

Happened to have a medical appointment that day which was delayed because of computer shut down. At that point ,Wed AM they were unsure who or what was responsible. So not fake news. The system went down. Info was direct from a department chair person.Shared with me as a health care professional.

Seriously this is happening all over. Nothing is safe anymore from hackers. Sad world we are in.

JoelJohnson 06-04-2021 06:54 AM

I was at the doctor's yesterday on Santa Barbara, no problem the computers were working.

DIver0258 06-04-2021 06:58 AM

Ransomware attacks have been hitting corporations for years. A few years ago Marersk Shipping was hit, recently CMA- CGM was hit. Both of these instances creates a stoppage of 2 major transportation players for over a week. Companies are attempting to educate employees about phishing scams that allow the worm into the system. So it is entirely possible the hospital was hit. Remember the Colonial Pipeline was hit recently. As for TOV they have put protocols into play to prevent harassment and escalation of posts. TVN is an anti-developer ad driven online forum that will post just about anything regardless of full factual information. Most of the time they only write part of the story. I assume their sources are limited.

richs631 06-04-2021 07:29 AM

FYI. The Villages News is in no way affiliated with the Villages and is a total rag site. Been living in the villages for two years and stopped reading from their site after 3 mos months of totally false stories. I wouldn’t believe that site if they told me the sky was blue

OhioBuckeye 06-04-2021 07:39 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 1954338)
UF Health-The Villages Hospital has been forced to operate by pen and paper thanks to a ransomware attack which has shut down the computer system.

The hospital has not officially acknowledged the attack, but an official with knowledge of the situation confirmed what has taken place, both at the hospital in The Villages and Leesburg Regional Medical Center.

Both hospitals operate under the UF Health system. Other hospitals in that system are reportedly not impacted and functioning normally.

The bad thing about this is, the companies or businesses
are paying these terrorist off, now they’re like other companies & our legal systems aren’t doing anything about it.

retiredguy123 06-04-2021 07:47 AM

Whatever happened to the mandatory standardized medical records part of the Affordable Care law? In hindsight, it is probably a good thing that it was never enforced, or the entire U.S. health care system could be held hostage by hackers.

jimkerr 06-04-2021 07:58 AM

These ransomware attacks happen more than you think.


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