They want a 8” Cross removed?
 

Well this should start a conversation.
Did you know that one of the Districts governance bodies is suing a resident over a very small white cross in their yard?
They should start a go fund me page to fight this.

Resident says HOA in The Villages is suing her for displaying cross, lawn ornaments

Lawn ornaments are not allowed by the deed restrictions we signed when we moved to TV. We do not have an HOA.

They are getting sued for NOT following the deed restrictions, not because it is a cross. They can put the cross on the porch, in full view, problem solved.

Anyone know what village she lives in? Up here in the NE almost everyone has lawn ornaments of one kind or another, including many crosses.

kathy

Restrictions are different in each district. They live in District 8.

Is that 8" above the ground, or are the cross rebels hiding some of it below ground level?:icon_wink:

All dogs are required to be on a leash at all times, dogs are not allowed off leash on any athletic field or other public areas. Not allowing pets to play and walk on common area landscaping. Owner is responsible for picking up after pet, please take all waste home for disposal.

I see this rule broken often. Or do we get to pick and choose which rules we want to follow.

When you move into a deeded, or an HMO community, you have to give up certain rights. Personally, I don't care about lawn ornaments, but the deed restrictions are agreed upon when you sign your papers. I'd love to see personal expressions in people's yards, as long as they're not rusted out cars, boats, RVs... Would you accept it if your next door neighbor put 8" Gnomes on their lawn. I'd like to know, because I have several Gnomes, that I'd like to display.

We follow the pet rules and do not have any lawn ornaments.

Restrictions are different in every area, read yours. Everyone agrees to the covenant when they buy. She did too. She is now complaining because she doesn't want to live by the rules.

Also, MANY people have a cross in their yard and are not sued. Enforcement is because someone complained. I expect this is not about her having a cross in her years, but the "real" story is she p133ed someone off about something else and they reported her to get even.

I personally don't care if people want small a small cross in their yard, it is against the covenant technically, but as long as it does not make the neighborhood look trashy and reduce our resale value, they I have no problem with it.

I guess you missed this the first time around, there were 158 posts.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ht=White+cross

Enjoy!

You have the opportunity to turn in the violator, if you do not the violations will continue. Doesn't matter which rule is broken, rules are rules. I have turned in people that allow their dogs to run loose, they were contacted but still don't use a leash, I call them "The Elite" to this class of people rules and regulations are meaningless.

I received a letter from the law firm yesterday stating that my tenant had a lawn ornament in the front of the house, it was a metal bird like so many homes have. I contacted my tenants and they removed the item, they also talked with the attorney's office to fully understand the complain and were told that they received 65 anonymous complaints from the same person, that would be a professional troll.

Yet so many swear clipboard trolls don’t exist. Now you have it in writing, yes they do.

The tenants "were TOLD" by attorney's office.

Sounds like hearsay to me.....

And even if they do exist...who cares? Follow rules and they will have nothing to report, right?

I bought where I am because I am ok with our deed restrictions. There is a couple of sand crane statues in some people’s landscape but everyone seems to be happy with them so I don’t even know if they are against the rules. When we were driving on Morse bridge there were a couple of birds on the grass. I was thinking how life like they were, just like these statues around here and then the birds started walking!

The two old biddies are out and about doing what they do best not minding their own business.

legit compromise here.

You're more than welcome to compare...
 

apples and oranges(NE vs. the villages), but it makes no sense. Not in the least.

I was referring to the NE section of The Villages, not of the US. (Specifically, we are north of 466 and east of Chula Vista.)

k.

Sand crane statues are against the covenant. I have two and will gladly take them down if anyone complains - they just tell me, and I will. about 25% of the houses in my neighborhood have them.

There are lawn ornaments almost everywhere. They are against the covenant, but the covenant is only enforced if someone complains.

Sadly, if you have some and you annoy someone online they can complain and you will have to take them down.

Last February we were on our Saturday morning yard sale tour and noticed a house in Duval that had Halloween, Christmas and Valentine's decorations all over their yard at the same time. How tacky is that!

Book’em Dano!

My entire neighborhood put flags on their lawn last Memorial Day. I put 12 there myself. Were we in compliance with the CDD? Didn't check. Don't really care.

I guess I'm fortunate to live in a neighborhood where people like to get together on projects like that. My neighbors seem more worried about enjoying their retirement and being liked by their neighbors, than worrying about what little doo-dad their neighbor has in their garden, just so they can report them to lawn ornament police.

When governments, especially small governments, make rules, they're always draconian. That's because fellow citizens don't want to sit in judgement as the designated hair splitter, and the lawyers don't want any ambiguity if they have to go to court.

The lawn ornament thing is there to prevent people from erecting giant monstrosities on their lawn that hurt property values. It wasn't written to prevent your tender eyes from observing a small religious artifact that you happen to find offensive. But you're certainly within your rights and the letter of the law to report the offender and have offensive the object removed. And a chorus of like-minded souls on this forum are sure to whip our their deed restrictions and remind us that we all agreed to be ruled by the most petty among us, and rules are rules.

I'd just ask how your happy retirement is going -- the one where you paid a bundle to live close to other happy retired people -- if you find your neighbors so offensive that you'd turn them in for something as trivial as an 8" cross in their garden.

You are replying to the wrong poster, not my rental, have no insight if they spoke to attorney or not. Please read post, then respond. We have been in TV since 07, know the rules, with all 3 of our houses. My post was about those who think the clipboard people are a figment of imaginations.

Sadly, if you have some, you have chosen to violate a contract that you placed your signature on. And, since you are aware that you are in violation, your integrity is in question.

Rules are made to even the playing field…the rules are in place to protect everyone. What makes people think that they can break the rules? How about if I leave my boat in my driveway? Simply put your cross in your backyard for your own enjoyment.

Shouldn’t start any conversations. This topic is worn out. The homeowner is in violation of district restrictions. They are guilty. The homeowner should remove the cross, wait 30 days then put it back up. It may or may not start the process again. If it does, then repeat.

I learned this trick after complaining multiple times that a neighbor was in violation with a lawn full of Hillary signs. They would take them down for a few days then put them back up.
Each. complaint opens a new ticket which takes 90 days to pursue.

Dog waste disposal
 

I was at a Villages postal station recently and the odor coming from the trash can was horrible. Dog owners should carry the poop home and flush it away. That is one of the downsides of having a dog at the Villages if you are not on your own property.

What IF???
 

What if it was an 8" tall SWAZTICA or an 8" tall phallus??
What would the discussion be then?
The Covenant's, anywhere, are there for a reason.

What’s good for the gander is good for the goose 😂😂

Trust me folks. Who ever made the complaint was targeting her because it’s a cross. Anti Christian is gunning for her and using the villages CDD to do it. The CDD painted themselves into a corner that I’m sure they regret. I doubt very much the person who made the complaint even lives in the villages

You're allowed seasonal decorations for up to 30 days.

White cross lady should celebrate January for 30 days, take the cross down for a day and then celebrate February for 30 days. Rinse and repeat twelve times a year celebrating each month.

Or, buy a planter for some flowers and paint a cross on the planter.

Or, cut down a palm tree but leave a 2' stump on which to place a flower planter. Carve a cross in the stump.

Religious expression can take many different forms and you don't necessarily have to create a problem when alternatives exist.

If you don’t like the lawn ornament rules just move to the historic side. You can do whatever you want there apparently. I’ve seen cars on blocks with junk all over bushes that the homeowner was using as a table. He had rags, car parts, brooms, all on top of his bushes.

When we rented up there it easily swayed us to move south.

Put the cross in the backyard. Problem solved!

A violation is a violation---period. Stop trying to draw attention to something that's unimportant when YOU violated the rules. If the so called trolls want to keep our neighborhoods looking good I say thank you to them.

False complaints are also made.

The system should require the complainer to provide as much information in writing as it takes to make a change as verification.

That would be OK with me.

If it were a swastika, I would assume they were Buddhist of Hindu.

The Buddhist Swastika | Reclaiming Zen

If it was a phallus, I would assume they were celebrating this Japanese festival.

Japan's Annual ***** Festival Is As Phallic As You'd Expect (PHOTOS) | HuffPost

A rule is a rule no?

If this resident was pulled over for speeding because she was late to Sunday church service, would she not pay the ticket? Would she believe she was targeted because the officer was camped out waiting for speeders?

Would Fox 35 then report she was pulled over for going to Church Service?

Seems that If you violate a rule, which is sometimes worth it given the situation, you simply pay a price for the violation.