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dnptrll 06-19-2021 06:52 AM

Federal Holiday
 
A radio announcer said yesterday that the addition of Juneteenth as a paid Federal Holiday makes a total of 48/year. That means that Federal employees get a total of over 9 weeks of paid holidays every year. Can that be correct?

Mrprez 06-19-2021 06:55 AM

No. It’s not. Currently, federal employees get 10 paid holidays and now 11.

Holidays Work Schedules and Pay

TJ SoBos 06-19-2021 06:59 AM

So, does the new holiday today mean no mail delivery today???

retiredguy123 06-19-2021 07:09 AM

If you include sick leave, 13 days, vacation, 26 days (for those with 15 years of service), and holidays, 11, it comes to 50 days off. And, the day after Thanksgiving is often added as a day off, by the President.

retiredguy123 06-19-2021 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TJ SoBos (Post 1961681)
So, does the new holiday today mean no mail delivery today???

The actual holiday was Friday because June 19 is on a weekend. But, the Post Office decided to deliver mail on Friday and Saturday this year. But, in the future, the normal schedule is to not deliver mail on holidays.

PugMom 06-19-2021 07:26 AM

i read that too. i don't mind it, another day to celebrate :coolsmiley:

DAVES 06-19-2021 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1961708)
i read that too. i don't mind it, another day to celebrate :coolsmiley:

Jealousy perhaps? I for one am tired of paying for it. Juneteeth? Fair we could have a holiday for every race, creed religion and there would be no time to work or do anything.
I with no choice pay every quarter.

golfing eagles 06-19-2021 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1961744)
Jealousy perhaps? I for one am tired of paying for it. Juneteeth? Fair we could have a holiday for every race, creed religion and there would be no time to work or do anything.
I with no choice pay every quarter.

No comment.

Actually one----When are we going to declare a Federal holiday in honor of the ancient Egyptian god Osiris? Definitely would be more interesting than this one

Irishmen 06-19-2021 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1961750)
No comment.

Actually one----When are we going to declare a Federal holiday in honor of the ancient Egyptian god Osiris? Definitely would be more interesting than this one

I'm good with it. Now another excuse for a big fat juicy red ribeye on the grill.

retiredguy123 06-19-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1961744)
Jealousy perhaps? I for one am tired of paying for it. Juneteeth? Fair we could have a holiday for every race, creed religion and there would be no time to work or do anything.
I with no choice pay every quarter.

Every Federal office I ever "worked" in was so overstaffed that all the essential work was done by about 20 percent of the employees. The other 80 percent either did no work or just got in the way. Adding another holiday will have no affect on productivity or cost.

Stu from NYC 06-19-2021 08:09 AM

This is getting out of hand.

What about good old RA?

Taltarzac725 06-19-2021 08:19 AM

What Is Juneteenth? African American History Blog | The African Americans: Many Rivers to Cross

I thought there was a month about Black History? February.

African American History Month

Neils 06-19-2021 08:25 AM

When are the special holidays for American Indians? Italian Americans, Asian Americans, Latino Americans?

Taltarzac725 06-19-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1961793)
When are the special holidays for American Indians? Italian Americans, Asian Americans, Latino Americans?

Various states probably have one or more of these listed above.

For example-- Native American Day - Wikipedia

GrumpyOldMan 06-19-2021 08:37 AM

I for one think it is about time to have a Federal Holiday celebrating Grumpy Old Men! I was going to say, grumpy old people, or grumpy old women too - but, naw, we don't want to do that. Before long women might get all uppity and want to vote too.

Bogie Shooter 06-19-2021 08:40 AM

Why don’t those that are objecting to the new holiday…….come out and say what you really mean?

RedChariot 06-19-2021 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1961764)
This is getting out of hand.

What about good old RA?

Definitely getting out of hand. How about a Federal holiday to honor the 6 million Jews murdered by the German Nazi regime, or a Federal holiday of shame for what was done to the Native Indians by the US government? I could go on but I think you get the message. Juneteenth ?

golfing eagles 06-19-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 1961822)
Definitely getting out of hand. How about a Federal holiday to honor the 6 million Jews murdered by the German Nazi regime, or a Federal holiday of shame for what was done to the Native Indians by the US government? I could go on but I think you get the message. Juneteenth ?

Couldn't agree more. We already have a totally contrived Federal holiday along these lines, it occurs the third week in January.

Taltarzac725 06-19-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1961824)
Couldn't agree more. We already have a totally contrived Federal holiday along these lines, it occurs the third week in January.

January 2021 National Day Holidays - National Day Calendar

They certainly have a lot of days in January for something-- National Beer Can Appreciation Day, for instance. BEER CAN APPRECIATION DAY - January 24 - National Day Calendar

tvbound 06-19-2021 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1961809)
Why don’t those that are objecting to the new holiday…….come out and say what you really mean?

Because it's so obvious, but they're afraid to just be honest about it?

tvbound 06-19-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1961805)
I for one think it is about time to have a Federal Holiday celebrating Grumpy Old Men! I was going to say, grumpy old people, or grumpy old women too - but, naw, we don't want to do that. Before long women might get all uppity and want to vote too.

If the female vote were to become too threatening to a specific group, state laws can always be promulgated to make it harder for them to vote.

Paper1 06-19-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1961809)
Why don’t those that are objecting to the new holiday…….come out and say what you really mean?

There is a cost to be paid for paying people not to work. That bill is coming due soon.

Irishmen 06-19-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1961846)
Because it's so obvious, but they're afraid to just be honest about it?

Towns are cancelling July 4th celebrations trading for this new holiday is all we need to know. Erasing history part of cultural revolution ending in millions dead and millions enslaved...

eremite06 06-19-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1961763)
Every Federal office I ever "worked" in was so overstaffed that all the essential work was done by about 20 percent of the employees. The other 80 percent either did no work or just got in the way. Adding another holiday will have no affect on productivity or cost.

Ahhh!, a socialist utopia!!:a040:

Dana1963 06-19-2021 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishmen (Post 1961912)
Towns are cancelling July 4th celebrations trading for this new holiday is all we need to know. Erasing history part of cultural revolution ending in millions dead and millions enslaved...

Another BS statement and you're stuck with St Patty's Day

Ben Franklin 06-19-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dnptrll (Post 1961674)
A radio announcer said yesterday that the addition of Juneteenth as a paid Federal Holiday makes a total of 48/year. That means that Federal employees get a total of over 9 weeks of paid holidays every year. Can that be correct?

I think you have Congressman and Senators in mind, not the workers.

Irishmen 06-19-2021 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1961918)
Another BS statement and you're stuck with St Patty's Day

over the target.

Ben Franklin 06-19-2021 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by eremite06 (Post 1961917)
Ahhh!, a socialist utopia!!:a040:

Actually, TV land is the socialist utopia, as a quasi-government controls everything, and no one can opt out, plus the builder doesn't have to pay for the full amount of impact they cause. They just make everyone pay for it.

I'm not complaining, just being realistic. If I was upset with this, I'd move.

mamamia54 06-19-2021 12:01 PM

Randolph, New Jersey removed ALL holiday names from the school year. It will now be called a day off.

manaboutown 06-19-2021 12:10 PM

Anyone celebrate "Eat Your Vegetables Day" on June 17? NATIONAL EAT YOUR VEGETABLES DAY - June 17, 2021 | National Today

Stu from NYC 06-19-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1961919)
I think you have Congressman and Senators in mind, not the workers.

Congress and the Senate work very hard collecting funds to pay for their next campaign.

Too busy to write the laws they are paid to introduce so they let the companies that have bought them do the writing.

Stu from NYC 06-19-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1961846)
Because it's so obvious, but they're afraid to just be honest about it?

I think we have enough national holidays.

More days off mean companies will have to hire more people to do work not done on holidays increasing costs for no good reason.

Were you thinking I am thinking this for racist reasons? Sorry my economics degree tells me why this is not a good idea

blueash 06-19-2021 12:49 PM

Yes of course the objection is that this is about Black citizens and celebrates their end of centuries of slavery. Nothing for for the KKK to celebrate there. And the comment on this thread that THEY already have a holiday for MLK only makes it too clear what the objection really is about.

How about all those Christian holidays? How about if we are not going to favor groups we stop favoring that one? Easter, Xmas, Thanksgiving all religious holidays. If you want to understand how the early Americans understood the separation of church and state, look no further than the US Post office and how it handled the question of Sunday deliveries.

" In 1828, the Kentucky Senator Richard M. Johnson, chairman of the Senate Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads and a devout Baptist, declared any federal attempt to give preference to the Christian Sabbath to be unconstitutional. The line between church and state when it came to Sunday mail delivery, he argued, "cannot be too strongly drawn."

I admit I had never heard of Juneteenth until recently. I had never heard of the Tulsa massacre or the similar one here in Central Florida until the last few years. Funny how we didn't learn about so much of the real history of America growing up. Maybe as we learn more about how it really happened we will find things worth celebrating, like Juneteenth that are not all about WASP events.

Bill14564 06-19-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Irishmen (Post 1961912)
Towns are cancelling July 4th celebrations trading for this new holiday is all we need to know. Erasing history part of cultural revolution ending in millions dead and millions enslaved...

What towns have cancelled July 4th celebrations in order to celebrate Juneteenth?

(google didn't tell me about any)

GrumpyOldMan 06-19-2021 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Irishmen (Post 1961912)
Towns are cancelling July 4th celebrations trading for this new holiday is all we need to know. Erasing history part of cultural revolution ending in millions dead and millions enslaved...

Actually, we need to know which towns. Or maybe there aren't any?

retiredguy123 06-19-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1961954)
Yes of course the objection is that this is about Black citizens and celebrates their end of centuries of slavery. Nothing for for the KKK to celebrate there. And the comment on this thread that THEY already have a holiday for MLK only makes it too clear what the objection really is about.

How about all those Christian holidays? How about if we are not going to favor groups we stop favoring that one? Easter, Xmas, Thanksgiving all religious holidays. If you want to understand how the early Americans understood the separation of church and state, look no further than the US Post office and how it handled the question of Sunday deliveries.

" In 1828, the Kentucky Senator Richard M. Johnson, chairman of the Senate Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads and a devout Baptist, declared any federal attempt to give preference to the Christian Sabbath to be unconstitutional. The line between church and state when it came to Sunday mail delivery, he argued, "cannot be too strongly drawn."

I admit I had never heard of Juneteenth until recently. I had never heard of the Tulsa massacre or the similar one here in Central Florida until the last few years. Funny how we didn't learn about so much of the real history of America growing up. Maybe as we learn more about how it really happened we will find things worth celebrating, like Juneteenth that are not all about WASP events.

To clarify, Easter is not a Federal holiday and Thanksgiving is not a religious holiday.

golfing eagles 06-19-2021 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1961961)
To clarify, Easter is not a Federal holiday and Thanksgiving is not a religious holiday.

And her whole post was a crock

Rango 06-19-2021 01:22 PM

How about a holiday from this “thread”.

manaboutown 06-19-2021 01:33 PM

Poll: Most Americans Are Not Confident Juneteenth Should Be A Federal Holiday

Ben Franklin 06-19-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1961977)

Actually, the article said 35% for, 25 against, and "at least 40 percent of those surveyed said they weren’t sure whether it should be federally implemented or they were simply [were] unfamiliar with the holiday and its origins."

Let's do some educating. White men became free, after mobs started attacking British owned corporations, and towns, beginning as early as the Boston Tea Party, where mobs of white people attacked several ships, owned by British corporations on taxation issues, and culminated with the The Battle of Yorktown, and then became a free country for white men on 7-4-1776.

Black people were not freed until 2.5 years after the Civil War, in some southern states. Federal troops had to be called to Texas in order to free them, on June 19 1865. The last known lynching of a black man was in 1981, yes, 1981. Juneteenth celebrates their freedom.

What's there to understand?


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