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Penglobal 08-11-2021 08:11 AM

Why Savannah Center ?
 
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest appeared to have a great time. Although I have a very positive vibe towards the Savannah Center, I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I was amazed that the venue with approximately 600 guest were tightly squeezed together, sitting next to one another and hardly anyone, except for a handful were wearing protective mask. No one was socially distancing themselves and in my opinion, all the progress made with the declining COVID infection rate will be lost and the rate of COVID infection will rise again.

Since I'm certain this same scenario of not properly protecting ourselves while indoors in public and still many haven't even vaccinated themselves against COVID is occurring throughout our country, I get this bad feeling that come this winter, our country is going back to another lockdown as we haven't learn yet to protect ourselves.

Neils 08-11-2021 08:21 AM

Enjoy your opinion. Not everyone else shares it
Wear your mask if you want to.

Still a (barely) free country.

ROCKMUP 08-11-2021 10:05 AM

You know what they say about opinions, right ?

JoMar 08-11-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest appeared to have a great time. Although I have a very positive vibe towards the Savannah Center, I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I was amazed that the venue with approximately 600 guest were tightly squeezed together, sitting next to one another and hardly anyone, except for a handful were wearing protective mask. No one was socially distancing themselves and in my opinion, all the progress made with the declining COVID infection rate will be lost and the rate of COVID infection will rise again.

Since I'm certain this same scenario of not properly protecting ourselves while indoors in public and still many haven't even vaccinated themselves against COVID is occurring throughout our country, I get this bad feeling that come this winter, our country is going back to another lockdown as we haven't learn yet to protect ourselves.

Since masks do little if anything to protect me, since vaccines are readily available and since vaccinated my odds of serious illness or death are low I don't feel an obligation to be responsible for those that choose to take the risks and ignore the opportunities to protect themselves. As an aside, you might want to avoid the Sharon since they also have gone back to full seating.

Kenswing 08-11-2021 10:33 AM

The beautiful thing about choices is that if you're uncomfortable with the way they do things, you are allowed not to attend.

golfing eagles 08-11-2021 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest appeared to have a great time. Although I have a very positive vibe towards the Savannah Center, I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I was amazed that the venue with approximately 600 guest were tightly squeezed together, sitting next to one another and hardly anyone, except for a handful were wearing protective mask. No one was socially distancing themselves and in my opinion, all the progress made with the declining COVID infection rate will be lost and the rate of COVID infection will rise again.

Since I'm certain this same scenario of not properly protecting ourselves while indoors in public and still many haven't even vaccinated themselves against COVID is occurring throughout our country, I get this bad feeling that come this winter, our country is going back to another lockdown as we haven't learn yet to protect ourselves.

So stay home. I think you'll find that the shows are extremely well attended without a "mask mandate", so it is quite possible that you just expressed the minority opinion.

SkBlogW 08-11-2021 12:33 PM

The mask Nazis have lost the war in heavily vaccinated TV

biker1 08-11-2021 12:35 PM

While there is a little slop in the CDC numbers, I suspect well over 90% of the people attending have been vaccinated. The number for those over 65, and especially those living in The Villages, is very high.

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest appeared to have a great time. Although I have a very positive vibe towards the Savannah Center, I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I was amazed that the venue with approximately 600 guest were tightly squeezed together, sitting next to one another and hardly anyone, except for a handful were wearing protective mask. No one was socially distancing themselves and in my opinion, all the progress made with the declining COVID infection rate will be lost and the rate of COVID infection will rise again.

Since I'm certain this same scenario of not properly protecting ourselves while indoors in public and still many haven't even vaccinated themselves against COVID is occurring throughout our country, I get this bad feeling that come this winter, our country is going back to another lockdown as we haven't learn yet to protect ourselves.


Penglobal 08-11-2021 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1987361)
So stay home. I think you'll find that the shows are extremely well attended without a "mask mandate", so it is quite possible that you just expressed the minority opinion.


So when is a minority opinion given less credence than the majority opinion?
I believe the majority opinion disregarding indoor mask mandates are both morally wrong and against medical opinion.

Back in the early 1940's, a majority of German nationals believed that all Jews should be executed. Back in the early 1950's, a majority of Southerners still believed in slavery.
My point, a majority opinion doesn't make it right.

Topspinmo 08-11-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987385)
So when is a minority opinion given less credence than the majority opinion?
I believe the majority opinion disregarding indoor mask mandates are both morally wrong and against medical opinion.

Back in the early 1940's, a majority of German nationals believed that all Jews should be executed. Back in the early 1950's, a majority of Southerners still believed in slavery.
My point, a majority opinion doesn't make it right.

Opinion again.

Road-Runner 08-11-2021 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987385)
So when is a minority opinion given less credence than the majority opinion?
I believe the majority opinion disregarding indoor mask mandates are both morally wrong and against medical opinion.

Back in the early 1940's, a majority of German nationals believed that all Jews should be executed. Back in the early 1950's, a majority of Southerners still believed in slavery.
My point, a majority opinion doesn't make it right.

Wow, a Nazi analogy and grossly overstated slur against southerners to make your point? I'll bet you're 100% OK with what's going on right now because "elections have consequences". They surely do, regardless of what the voters in the minority think.

Joe V. 08-11-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night.


"Both myself and two friends...", ouch, cringe worthy. 'My two friends and I', if you please. Also, you can only be one of yourself.

Garywt 08-11-2021 01:41 PM

So I believe Florida has lifted all precautions against Covid-19 and people are going with it. Anyone can still wear a mask if they choice and anyone can be vaccinated. There are places that are starting to require proof of vaccination to enter an inside venue. Not sure if Florida ever will do that but these places are requiring the vaccination card to enter shows, restaurants etc. Other not vaccinated can attend outside venues or stay home, their choice.

golfing eagles 08-11-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987385)
So when is a minority opinion given less credence than the majority opinion?
I believe the majority opinion disregarding indoor mask mandates are both morally wrong and against medical opinion.

Back in the early 1940's, a majority of German nationals believed that all Jews should be executed. Back in the early 1950's, a majority of Southerners still believed in slavery.
My point, a majority opinion doesn't make it right.

Seriously? It was a small minority of Germans that felt that way, and probably an even smaller number of Southerners. And the amount of "credence" given to the minority opinion depends on the circumstances. Since 600+ people felt that a mask was not needed and one did, you know what that implies. So, are we to take it that you would feel "safe" attending the shows if your opinion about masks was adopted by the administration and 600+ people were now forced to wear a mask so that one person felt "safe"?

John41 08-11-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest

Probably only about 200 could have attended if social distancing. Not enough to pay the performers. Did you leave or stay for the show?

Joe V. 08-11-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1987426)
Did you leave or stay for the show?

Great question! Can not wait for the reply.

Happinow 08-11-2021 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest appeared to have a great time. Although I have a very positive vibe towards the Savannah Center, I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I was amazed that the venue with approximately 600 guest were tightly squeezed together, sitting next to one another and hardly anyone, except for a handful were wearing protective mask. No one was socially distancing themselves and in my opinion, all the progress made with the declining COVID infection rate will be lost and the rate of COVID infection will rise again.

Since I'm certain this same scenario of not properly protecting ourselves while indoors in public and still many haven't even vaccinated themselves against COVID is occurring throughout our country, I get this bad feeling that come this winter, our country is going back to another lockdown as we haven't learn yet to protect ourselves.

If you are not comfortable in crowds, you may want to stay home.

Villageswimmer 08-11-2021 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest appeared to have a great time. Although I have a very positive vibe towards the Savannah Center, I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I was amazed that the venue with approximately 600 guest were tightly squeezed together, sitting next to one another and hardly anyone, except for a handful were wearing protective mask. No one was socially distancing themselves and in my opinion, all the progress made with the declining COVID infection rate will be lost and the rate of COVID infection will rise again.

Since I'm certain this same scenario of not properly protecting ourselves while indoors in public and still many haven't even vaccinated themselves against COVID is occurring throughout our country, I get this bad feeling that come this winter, our country is going back to another lockdown as we haven't learn yet to protect ourselves.


Sorry for your disappointment. I’m not a fan of being crowded in anywhere, particularly now. But, that’s me. I understand your concern, but did you inquire about seating and capacity before buying the tickets? Sounds like you made assumptions. Did you stay for the show?

Escape Artist 08-11-2021 05:45 PM

Ah, the neurotic preoccupations of those who have "plenty"!

Mrprez 08-11-2021 05:58 PM

Do Masks Work? Viral immunologist Dr. Byram Bridle performs a simple experiment to see. - YouTube

BlueStarAirlines 08-12-2021 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I'm guessing you were not a guest at Obama's birthday bash or one of the thousands at Lolapalooza?

jack.hunter00@yahoo.com 08-12-2021 05:13 AM

That's because this is The Villages. Community leadership towards this is just like to governor.

golfing eagles 08-12-2021 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jack.hunter00@yahoo.com (Post 1987579)
That's because this is The Villages. Community leadership towards this is just like to governor.

Looks like some people just can't stop themselves from making a political statement regardless of the topic of the thread........

Luggage 08-12-2021 05:34 AM

I think there's another point here that everyone is missing and that is the psychology of the group think and the bullying. If everyone is walking off the cliff would you follow them because they're all doing it? Glad people feel comfortable for not wearing a mask, but I do know of many people whose children are now sick and are literally in comas this week because of covid

golfing eagles 08-12-2021 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 1987591)
I think there's another point here that everyone is missing and that is the psychology of the group think and the bullying. If everyone is walking off the cliff would you follow them because they're all doing it? Glad people feel comfortable for not wearing a mask, but I do know of many people whose children are now sick and are literally in comas this week because of covid

And that sucks, I hope they get better. But I doubt any of those children were attending an unmasked performance at Savannah Center, which is what the OP was fretting about.

Pamelah 08-12-2021 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1987582)
Looks like some people just can't stop themselves from making a political statement regardless of the topic of the thread........

There are many holding their tongues not wishing to be accused of being political. However it is the simple truth, this post is all about politics and being good sheep.

Pat2015 08-12-2021 06:16 AM

Why would you go to a show at The Savannah Center where you knew there would be 600 people and zero possibility of social distancing at this venue, to then come on here and blast the place? I was at that show and had a wonderful time.

WesMan 08-12-2021 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest appeared to have a great time. Although I have a very positive vibe towards the Savannah Center, I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I was amazed that the venue with approximately 600 guest were tightly squeezed together, sitting next to one another and hardly anyone, except for a handful were wearing protective mask. No one was socially distancing themselves and in my opinion, all the progress made with the declining COVID infection rate will be lost and the rate of COVID infection will rise again.

Since I'm certain this same scenario of not properly protecting ourselves while indoors in public and still many haven't even vaccinated themselves against COVID is occurring throughout our country, I get this bad feeling that come this winter, our country is going back to another lockdown as we haven't learn yet to protect ourselves.

So stay home and watch your TV with your mask on!!! Did you have the COVID shots?????

PugMom 08-12-2021 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987385)
So when is a minority opinion given less credence than the majority opinion?
I believe the majority opinion disregarding indoor mask mandates are both morally wrong and against medical opinion.

Back in the early 1940's, a majority of German nationals believed that all Jews should be executed. Back in the early 1950's, a majority of Southerners still believed in slavery.
My point, a majority opinion doesn't make it right.

it remains a choice. some of us are sick of masks, & sick of hearing about them. the minority opinion is just that-a minority. @ the risk of repeating what is posted above- plan on staying home since you are unable to control the actions of others.

Mohawksin 08-12-2021 06:39 AM

Understatement of the day so far
 
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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1987364)
While there is a little slop in the CDC numbers, I suspect well over 90% of the people attending have been vaccinated. The number for those over 65, and especially those living in The Villages, is very high.

>>there is a little slop in the CDC numbers, <<

Hiltongrizz11 08-12-2021 06:41 AM

It's likely you're disappointed with the social distancing and masking guidelines because those in charge don't agree with you.

What you've learned about masking in social distancing is most likely wrong. You see anyone can do it just make the choice and do it. Our governor and many people around here including those likely in charge of the Savannah Center believe in freedom of choice and not being forced by big government to do anything.

You should highly appreciate that as that's a big reason why you likely move to Florida if you start peeling away the onion and reasons for it.

meridian5850 08-12-2021 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest appeared to have a great time. Although I have a very positive vibe towards the Savannah Center, I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I was amazed that the venue with approximately 600 guest were tightly squeezed together, sitting next to one another and hardly anyone, except for a handful were wearing protective mask. No one was socially distancing themselves and in my opinion, all the progress made with the declining COVID infection rate will be lost and the rate of COVID infection will rise again.

Since I'm certain this same scenario of not properly protecting ourselves while indoors in public and still many haven't even vaccinated themselves against COVID is occurring throughout our country, I get this bad feeling that come this winter, our country is going back to another lockdown as we haven't learn yet to protect ourselves.

OP, you're under the mistaken impression that mask mandates are in effect here. Maybe you think you're in California?

B-flat 08-12-2021 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ROCKMUP (Post 1987288)
You know what they say about opinions, right ?

No please explain! :icon_wink:

Larchap49 08-12-2021 07:52 AM

Stay home stay masked

FromNY 08-12-2021 07:53 AM

Wonder how many hospital beds the area has available? This surge is hurting the medical facilities. And in turn hurts all of us. Stay safe how ever You choose.

OhioBuckeye 08-12-2021 07:58 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
I try not to voice my opinion about getting the vaccine or not & wearing a mask or not. Some people get a little hateful when you say one way or another. It your right to do what you want!

Dlbonivich 08-12-2021 08:00 AM

If they social distance people the shows have to cancel. You can not make money on empty seats. If it bothers you do not go.

dyendell 08-12-2021 08:13 AM

Stay home if you are that paranoid. I had Covid and got the vaccines sonI will NEVER wear a mask again.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 1987194)
Both myself and two friends attended a concert at the Savannah Center Performing Arts Theater in the Villages last night. The Savannah Center is a beautiful venue, everyone working the venue was very nice and polite and the guest appeared to have a great time. Although I have a very positive vibe towards the Savannah Center, I am bit let down that this great venue has declined to enforce social distancing and declined enforcing a mask mandate while its guest are indoors and especially when so many guest are squeezed together in such a tight space.

I was amazed that the venue with approximately 600 guest were tightly squeezed together, sitting next to one another and hardly anyone, except for a handful were wearing protective mask. No one was socially distancing themselves and in my opinion, all the progress made with the declining COVID infection rate will be lost and the rate of COVID infection will rise again.

Since I'm certain this same scenario of not properly protecting ourselves while indoors in public and still many haven't even vaccinated themselves against COVID is occurring throughout our country, I get this bad feeling that come this winter, our country is going back to another lockdown as we haven't learn yet to protect ourselves.


Penglobal 08-12-2021 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1987704)
I try not to voice my opinion about getting the vaccine or not & wearing a mask or not. Some people get a little hateful when you say one way or another. It your right to do what you want!

Agree. I remember having this same silly argument back in the early 1970's when car seat belts became universally mandated and the norm. Many argued that wearing seat belts was a personal choice and some had the constitutional right not to wear a seat belt. Some also argued that they had the right to have their face go threw the windshield during a car crash if they choose.

Topgun 1776 08-12-2021 08:41 AM

Sounds like someone hasn't had their vaccinations. Hmmm.....


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