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John41 08-29-2021 09:46 PM

Portable morgues-Central Florida Hospitals
 
Due to a surge in covid 19 hospital deaths and overcapacity at traditional morgues, mobile morgues are being sent to Central Florida hospitals. The epidemic is expected to peak in a few weeks. 90+% of the cases are with the unvaccinated.

MDLNB 08-30-2021 07:35 AM

What determines a "surge" in the death rate? I believe that I read that there were 284 Covid related deaths here since this started. Spaced out over a year plus, is that a lot more than usual? Stating the obvious, the infection rate is high but not more than last year, right? Not arguing, just wondering out loud. Then again, the OP stated "Central Florida" and that does encompass a larger area than I am referring to.

blueash 08-30-2021 08:42 AM

This news item is for the counties surrounding Orlando, not Sumter. There are bodies backlogged in funeral homes and cremation facilities. The morgues at hospitals are at or near capacity and there is no place to store or ship corpses. The state of Florida has an emergency agency that can provide body storage but it can only be activated by the state authorities in an emergency declared by the state. The state has not declared this Covid surge to be an emergency thus the state equipment is not made available.

Instead a local non-governmental group has obtained portable morgues and is making them available to the hospital networks in their service area.

FEMA also provides temporary morgues, but again only at the request of state officials, not local ones. Texas ordered FEMA morgues

See the story in Newsweek

Quote:

In an email sent to Florida's emergency managers, the hospital system announced it has "begun utilizing rented, refrigerated coolers at 10 of our campuses throughout Orange, Osceola, Polk, Seminole, & Volusia counties. These coolers are quickly becoming filled also."

Advent Health said it believes its morgues are backed up because of a "slowdown at local funeral homes," which is causing the hospitals to have to hold bodies for longer periods.

"Because this is happening to hospitals throughout the area, we have been in contact with our regional hospital disaster coalitions and a request for assistance has also been forwarded to the Florida Hospital Association," the email read.

Earlier in the pandemic, hospitals had requested assets like the Florida Emergency Mortuary Operations Response System, but those resources are no longer available now that there is no disaster declaration in place.

golfing eagles 08-30-2021 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1996376)
Due to a surge in covid 19 hospital deaths and overcapacity at traditional morgues, mobile morgues are being sent to Central Florida hospitals. The epidemic is expected to peak in a few weeks. 90+% of the cases are with the unvaccinated.

Florida (to date) deaths: 43,979

Sumter Co. 284
Lake Co. 663
Marion Co. 996

The need for portable morgues is disturbing, but is primarily a function of how much morgue space they have to begin with. Was it any different after Katrina with 1800 deaths, or a 8.4 California quake?????

tophcfa 08-30-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1996376)
Due to a surge in covid 19 hospital deaths and overcapacity at traditional morgues, mobile morgues are being sent to Central Florida hospitals. The epidemic is expected to peak in a few weeks. 90+% of the cases are with the unvaccinated.

Shhhhhhhh, mobil morgues and no availability of hospital beds is not good for home sales. But great news, the Sharon and Savannah Center are back to being fully open, no masks required.

MDLNB 08-30-2021 03:33 PM

Morgues are good. They should set up more incinerators too.

Ksfirefighter 08-30-2021 04:11 PM

Morgues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1996376)
Due to a surge in covid 19 hospital deaths and overcapacity at traditional morgues, mobile morgues are being sent to Central Florida hospitals. The epidemic is expected to peak in a few weeks. 90+% of the cases are with the unvaccinated.

The hospitals have said that they did not request them nor will they be using them.
Typical hype to claim there is a huge problem that doesn’t exist.

blueash 08-30-2021 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksfirefighter (Post 1996815)
The hospitals have said that they did not request them nor will they be using them.
Typical hype to claim there is a huge problem that doesn’t exist.

You really should not prevaricate about what is being said when the exact words of the hospital spokesman are right in your face.

"In an email sent to Florida's emergency managers, the hospital system announced it has "begun utilizing rented, refrigerated coolers at 10 of our campuses throughout Orange, Osceola, Polk, Seminole, & Volusia counties. These coolers are quickly becoming filled also."

Advent Health said it believes its morgues are backed up because of a "slowdown at local funeral homes," which is causing the hospitals to have to hold bodies for longer periods.

"Because this is happening to hospitals throughout the area, we have been in contact with our regional hospital disaster coalitions and a request for assistance has also been forwarded to the Florida Hospital Association," the email read."

If I put in in BOLD hopefully that will help you understand the words in this statement. You might also notice the words "request for assistance". Seems to me that they asked for help, got help, are using the help, and now are saying that the extra morgue units are nearing capacity. But you do your thing. Somehow facts become hype in your mind.

Now perhaps that email was made up and your are correct. So you will be returning to post links to evidence of the lack of truth to the statement in the story in Newsweek, also the same story in the Orlando paper but behind a paywall.

Sabella 08-31-2021 05:02 AM

COVID tests and alleged data
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1996833)
You really should not prevaricate about what is being said when the exact words of the hospital spokesman are right in your face.

"In an email sent to Florida's emergency managers, the hospital system announced it has "begun utilizing rented, refrigerated coolers at 10 of our campuses throughout Orange, Osceola, Polk, Seminole, & Volusia counties. These coolers are quickly becoming filled also."

Advent Health said it believes its morgues are backed up because of a "slowdown at local funeral homes," which is causing the hospitals to have to hold bodies for longer periods.

"Because this is happening to hospitals throughout the area, we have been in contact with our regional hospital disaster coalitions and a request for assistance has also been forwarded to the Florida Hospital Association," the email read."

If I put in in BOLD hopefully that will help you understand the words in this statement. You might also notice the words "request for assistance". Seems to me that they asked for help, got help, are using the help, and now are saying that the extra morgue units are nearing capacity. But you do your thing. Somehow facts become hype in your mind.

Now perhaps that email was made up and your are correct. So you will be returning to post links to evidence of the lack of truth to the statement in the story in Newsweek, also the same story in the Orlando paper but behind a paywall.

COVID tests- large percentage of false positives- people allegedly dying from COVID medical facility gets paid more money- making people fearful is great to get re-elected. Dr. Faucet is a phony fraud. China lab made COVID and then covered up. Why does the media not even mention these things- weather they are true or false we use to rely on the free press to investigate and inform the people.

Villages Kahuna 08-31-2021 05:46 AM

….for those who choose to attend events there. My wife and I used to attend events at Savannah every couple of weeks and had season tickets to The Villages Philharmonic at The Sharon. Sadly, we’ll give up those enjoyable times until the pandemic is better controlled. We’re fully vaccinated, so we’re not staying away as much for our own safety as for those who continue to reject the science and the opportunity to be vaccinated.

Petersweeney 08-31-2021 05:48 AM

I think the silent majority sees the man behind the curtain in all of this……the super rich who control corporate America… trying to get even richer

La lamy 08-31-2021 05:53 AM

Yikes. Stay safe everyone.

golfing eagles 08-31-2021 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Petersweeney (Post 1996969)
I think the silent majority sees the man behind the curtain in all of this……the super rich who control corporate America… trying to get even richer

Yep, that must be it. OMG, the foil hats are definitely failing.

CFrance 08-31-2021 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1996976)
Yep, that must be it. OMG, the foil hats are definitely failing.

Agree; see post #9.

Dana1963 08-31-2021 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksfirefighter (Post 1996815)
The hospitals have said that they did not request them nor will they be using them.
Typical hype to claim there is a huge problem that doesn’t exist.

Another Villager with a wealth of misinformation.

Hiltongrizz11 08-31-2021 07:05 AM

Wrong
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by john41 (Post 1996376)
due to a surge in covid 19 hospital deaths and overcapacity at traditional morgues, mobile morgues are being sent to central florida hospitals. The epidemic is expected to peak in a few weeks. 90+% of the cases are with the unvaccinated.

wrong

Hiltongrizz11 08-31-2021 07:06 AM

Masks don't work anyway
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1996549)
Shhhhhhhh, mobil morgues and no availability of hospital beds is not good for home sales. But great news, the Sharon and Savannah Center are back to being fully open, no masks required.

Well I'm glad they're open and of course we all know masks don't work or we wouldn't be here after 18 months neither would any other country.

Or at least you know it all should know that masks don't work.

MDLNB 08-31-2021 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1996968)
….for those who choose to attend events there. My wife and I used to attend events at Savannah every couple of weeks and had season tickets to The Villages Philharmonic at The Sharon. Sadly, we’ll give up those enjoyable times until the pandemic is better controlled. We’re fully vaccinated, so we’re not staying away as much for our own safety as for those who continue to reject the science and the opportunity to be vaccinated.


Are you saying that you have tickets for sale? :coolsmiley:

Dantes 08-31-2021 07:32 AM

Good to hear

Bella6368 08-31-2021 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabella (Post 1996936)
COVID tests- large percentage of false positives- people allegedly dying from COVID medical facility gets paid more money- making people fearful is great to get re-elected. Dr. Faucet is a phony fraud. China lab made COVID and then covered up. Why does the media not even mention these things- weather they are true or false we use to rely on the free press to investigate and inform the people.

Good to know there are some people out there that don't let mainstream media indoctrinate them.

LateBoomer 08-31-2021 08:01 AM

hospitals everywhere were buying portable morgues 1 1/2 years ago and most ended up being used ZERO. It's been written about. Just ask the VA - tons of these things purchased, mostly now rotting in parking lots

Adagio43 08-31-2021 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1997004)
Agree; see post #9.

Yes, but Reynolds Aluminum is there to help.

virtualcynthia 08-31-2021 08:51 AM

Where are the morgues?
 
The following hospitals have been allocated portable morgues:

AdventHealth
Halifax
Orlando Health
Leesburg
HCA-East Florida
HCA - North Florida
Steward
Cleveland Clinic
Health First

Spalumbos62 08-31-2021 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1996549)
Shhhhhhhh, mobil morgues and no availability of hospital beds is not good for home sales. But great news, the Sharon and Savannah Center are back to being fully open, no masks required.

Boy...I sure hope no one is dumb enough to go there w/o a mask!

Spalumbos62 08-31-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1996833)
You really should not prevaricate about what is being said when the exact words of the hospital spokesman are right in your face.

"In an email sent to Florida's emergency managers, the hospital system announced it has "begun utilizing rented, refrigerated coolers at 10 of our campuses throughout Orange, Osceola, Polk, Seminole, & Volusia counties. These coolers are quickly becoming filled also."

Advent Health said it believes its morgues are backed up because of a "slowdown at local funeral homes," which is causing the hospitals to have to hold bodies for longer periods.

"Because this is happening to hospitals throughout the area, we have been in contact with our regional hospital disaster coalitions and a request for assistance has also been forwarded to the Florida Hospital Association," the email read."

If I put in in BOLD hopefully that will help you understand the words in this statement. You might also notice the words "request for assistance". Seems to me that they asked for help, got help, are using the help, and now are saying that the extra morgue units are nearing capacity. But you do your thing. Somehow facts become hype in your mind.

Now perhaps that email was made up and your are correct. So you will be returning to post links to evidence of the lack of truth to the statement in the story in Newsweek, also the same story in the Orlando paper but behind a paywall.


Of course they need extra morgues....how could they not....do the math people.
Sorry to say, but generally hospitals don't post this type of negative news until it's after the fact. Believe it now, or later....its happening.

Spalumbos62 08-31-2021 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabella (Post 1996936)
COVID tests- large percentage of false positives- people allegedly dying from COVID medical facility gets paid more money- making people fearful is great to get re-elected. Dr. Faucet is a phony fraud. China lab made COVID and then covered up. Why does the media not even mention these things- weather they are true or false we use to rely on the free press to investigate and inform the people.


No more silly talk...its not helpful

Number 10 GI 08-31-2021 10:15 AM

I haven't had the flu in many years because I get a vaccination every year. I received the polio vaccine way back when it was introduced and did not have to suffer the debilitation that disease causes. I get the pneumonia vaccine when required along with the shingles vaccine. When I went into the Army back in 1966 I was given vaccines for cholera, yellow fever, typhoid, and plague which were diseases found in southeast Asia. Those shots weren't optional but I understood the reasoning behind it. I had a bit of trepidation with the Covid vaccination but decided that the possible side effects were far less worrisome than the effects of the disease. If a person decides not to receive the vaccination then that is their decision but they may suffer unpleasant consequences for that decision.
Look at is as cleaning the gene pool.

Byte1 08-31-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1997199)
I haven't had the flu in many years because I get a vaccination every year. I received the polio vaccine way back when it was introduced and did not have to suffer the debilitation that disease causes. I get the pneumonia vaccine when required along with the shingles vaccine. When I went into the Army back in 1966 I was given vaccines for cholera, yellow fever, typhoid, and plague which were diseases found in southeast Asia. Those shots weren't optional but I understood the reasoning behind it. I had a bit of trepidation with the Covid vaccination but decided that the possible side effects were far less worrisome than the effects of the disease. If a person decides not to receive the vaccination then that is their decision but they may suffer unpleasant consequences for that decision.
Look at is as cleaning the gene pool.

Now, that is more convincing than those on here that accuse others of being uneducated rednecks, unpatriotic, conservatives, etc. if they do not get vaccinated. And I agree with you.

jimjamuser 08-31-2021 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1997019)
Well I'm glad they're open and of course we all know masks don't work or we wouldn't be here after 18 months neither would any other country.

Or at least you know it all should know that masks don't work.

Well, 637,000 US Americans are NOT here. That makes me want to follow CDC guidelines.

jimjamuser 08-31-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LateBoomer (Post 1997077)
hospitals everywhere were buying portable morgues 1 1/2 years ago and most ended up being used ZERO. It's been written about. Just ask the VA - tons of these things purchased, mostly now rotting in parking lots

Most of the large hospitals in Texas requested portable morgues. And they called in the surge teams of the National Guard.

jimjamuser 08-31-2021 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1997199)
I haven't had the flu in many years because I get a vaccination every year. I received the polio vaccine way back when it was introduced and did not have to suffer the debilitation that disease causes. I get the pneumonia vaccine when required along with the shingles vaccine. When I went into the Army back in 1966 I was given vaccines for cholera, yellow fever, typhoid, and plague which were diseases found in southeast Asia. Those shots weren't optional but I understood the reasoning behind it. I had a bit of trepidation with the Covid vaccination but decided that the possible side effects were far less worrisome than the effects of the disease. If a person decides not to receive the vaccination then that is their decision but they may suffer unpleasant consequences for that decision.
Look at is as cleaning the gene pool.

Yes, and 97% of all US medical Doctors are FULLY vaccinated. And 90% plus of the recent CV hospitalizations in Florida and elsewhere are the UNvaccinated. The Delta variant has increased the NEED for freezer morgue trucks. Perhaps, many people should re-assess their NEW and greater risk profile. Herd immunity IS better than portable morgues! What could happen to US society if there is a CV variant that is WORSE than the Delta variant coming in the future?

petiteone 08-31-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabella (Post 1996936)
COVID tests- large percentage of false positives- people allegedly dying from COVID medical facility gets paid more money- making people fearful is great to get re-elected. Dr. Faucet is a phony fraud. China lab made COVID and then covered up. Why does the media not even mention these things- weather they are true or false we use to rely on the free press to investigate and inform the people.


For those of us in the medical profession, Dr Fauci is a knowledgeable, tested and respected national treasurer. He's been on the battle lines of stemming every transmitted disease since the 70's. He has saved more lives than all the sticks and stones thrown at him. God Bless him! Trust Fauci over Ingraham, Carlson or Ivermectin.

Byte1 08-31-2021 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virtualcynthia (Post 1997126)
The following hospitals have been allocated portable morgues:

AdventHealth
Halifax
Orlando Health
Leesburg
HCA-East Florida
HCA - North Florida
Steward
Cleveland Clinic
Health First

Good information to know in case anyone needs one. :a040:

Byte1 08-31-2021 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1997242)
For those of us in the medical profession, Dr Fauci is a knowledgeable, tested and respected national treasurer. He's been on the battle lines of stemming every transmitted disease since the 70's. He has saved more lives than all the sticks and stones thrown at him. God Bless him! Trust Fauci over Ingraham, Carlson or Ivermectin.

Yep, as much money as he makes, I am sure he really is a "national TREASURER." :1rotfl:

golden 08-31-2021 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1997204)
Now, that is more convincing than those on here that accuse others of being uneducated rednecks, unpatriotic, conservatives, etc. if they do not get vaccinated. And I agree with you.

Carnegie-Mellon U in Pittsburgh recently completed a 5 MILLION person survey in which they were trying to determine who were resistant to the Covid vaccines. Unlike the false narrative spread by the main stream media, the survey concluded that the most resistant group to the vaccines were not blacks, Latinos, Trump conservatives, hut the highly educated.

Kinda explains some of the comments on this site by the vaxxers.

golden 08-31-2021 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1997242)
For those of us in the medical profession, Dr Fauci is a knowledgeable, tested and respected national treasurer. He's been on the battle lines of stemming every transmitted disease since the 70's. He has saved more lives than all the sticks and stones thrown at him. God Bless him! Trust Fauci over Ingraham, Carlson or Ivermectin.

Fauci is a "national treasurer" all right. When Covid hit, a few drug companies were commissioned to quickly come up with a vaccine. You may have heard of companies named Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer. Moderna was a no-nothing drug company who had never developed a vaccine. It's stock was $3 and is now about $320, and countries are tossing its vaccine because it contains graphene oxide or metal, or both. Go see if you can find any financial connection between Fauci and Moderna--you won't have to look hard.

golfing eagles 08-31-2021 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1997242)
For those of us in the medical profession, Dr Fauci is a knowledgeable, tested and respected national treasurer. He's been on the battle lines of stemming every transmitted disease since the 70's. He has saved more lives than all the sticks and stones thrown at him. God Bless him! Trust Fauci over Ingraham, Carlson or Ivermectin.

Thank you and can't agree more. I've had the pleasure of his company twice at dinners, and he is highly intelligent, well informed and personable. I just love the people on this site who call him all kinds of names and don't even know him.

golden 08-31-2021 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1997242)
For those of us in the medical profession, Dr Fauci is a knowledgeable, tested and respected national treasurer. He's been on the battle lines of stemming every transmitted disease since the 70's. He has saved more lives than all the sticks and stones thrown at him. God Bless him! Trust Fauci over Ingraham, Carlson or Ivermectin.

Petitone referenced ivermectin. Ivermectin saved the 1 billion population from mass Covid deaths. After its introduction as the main treatment, death rates plunged 95%. Dr. Soumya Swaminatha is an Indian and WHO's chief scientist. He is now being sued by the Indian Bar Association for mass murder for blocking the use of ivermectin. The same thing, in time, hopefully will happen to Fauci.

golfing eagles 08-31-2021 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by golden (Post 1997276)
Petitone referenced ivermectin. Ivermectin saved the 1 billion population from mass Covid deaths. After its introduction as the main treatment, death rates plunged 95%. Dr. Soumya Swaminatha is an Indian and WHO's chief scientist. He is now being sued by the Indian Bar Association for mass murder for blocking the use of ivermectin. The same thing, in time, hopefully will happen to Fauci.

Love to see the slightest shred of evidence from a legitimate source for that rather outlandish statement. But go ahead and take it, at least you won't have intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis. Probably works for ascariasis as well---COVID, not so much.

golden 08-31-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1997280)
Love to see the slightest shred of evidence from a legitimate source for that rather outlandish statement. But go ahead and take it, at least you won't have intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis. Probably works for ascariasis as well---COVID, not so much.

golfingeagles--Here's your slightest shred. Go to Paul Craig Robert's home page, look down to recently published articles. I will repeat--ivermectin saved India, a country of 1 billion people. You can get ivermectin at Walgreen's for about $40. Oh, and thanks for asking for the evidence.


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