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I'm Popeye! 09-04-2021 07:54 PM

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Why is it that "the Villages" close down Rec Centers, Pickle Ball and other activities during the height of late last year pandemic crisis.
But now that the situation is worst in Florida Rec Centers and Pickle Ball Courts still remain open.
Just wondering the motive and I come to this conclusion, IMHO
$ Its Greed $, "the Villages" management wants Snowbirds to return to the Villages.

vintageogauge 09-04-2021 07:58 PM

I believe they were following the local county recommendations. At this point I haven't heard of any county restrictions for this wave of infections.

Topspinmo 09-04-2021 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 1999098)
Why is it that "the Villages" close down Rec Centers, Pickle Ball and other activities during the height of late last year pandemic crisis.
But now that the situation is worst in Florida Rec Centers and Pickle Ball Courts still remain open.
Just wondering the motive and I come to this conclusion, IMHO
$ Its Greed $, "the Villages" management wants Snowbirds to return to the Villages.

I noticed you didn’t mention golf?


Maybe they (who ever they are ) learned that outdoor activity if precautions are take don’t spread the virus? Maybe it’s the high percentage of vaccinated villagers?

Bottom line it’s you’re responsible to protect yourself. If you think rec centers or any activity in villages puts you at risk, don’t go.

tophcfa 09-04-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 1999098)
Why is it that "the Villages" close down Rec Centers, Pickle Ball and other activities during the height of late last year pandemic crisis.
But now that the situation is worst in Florida Rec Centers and Pickle Ball Courts still remain open.
Just wondering the motive and I come to this conclusion, IMHO
$ Its Greed $, "the Villages" management wants Snowbirds to return to the Villages.

I suspect you are correct that the reason is $$, but not necessarily to entice snowbirds to return, it’s to keep the house selling machine running full steam ahead.

EdFNJ 09-04-2021 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 1999098)
Why is it that "the Villages" close down Rec Centers, Pickle Ball and other activities during the height of late last year pandemic crisis.
But now that the situation is worst in Florida Rec Centers and Pickle Ball Courts still remain open..

Hey! No sweat! If you get sick you can just go to the movie theater in Brownwood and get 4 free shots (1 in each arm, azz and thigh I hear) with your popcorn and it's all better so it doesn't matter. You can also head to Rural King in Leesburg and they may have some horse meds left in stock. :1rotfl:

Bay Kid 09-05-2021 07:06 AM

Biggest spike is July/August '21. Too early for snowbirds even if frogs do love to blame everything on snowbirds. Could it be illegals around the state?

Djean1981 09-05-2021 07:11 AM

Yes, sunshine helps kills the virus. I would still wash my hands after any activity that involves shared surfaces.

graciegirl 09-05-2021 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1999109)
I noticed you didn’t mention golf?


Maybe they (who ever they are ) learned that outdoor activity if precautions are take don’t spread the virus? Maybe it’s the high percentage of vaccinated villagers?

Bottom line it’s you’re responsible to protect yourself. If you think rec centers or any activity in villages puts you at risk, don’t go.

Well said.

Once people are vaccinated, they can get sick, but aren't likely to die especially older people like us. No one FORCES you to go anywhere or do anything. The Villages isn't your conscience or your mother nor is any government.

BlueStarAirlines 09-05-2021 07:27 AM

I think most people have decided that with personal responsibility and vaccinations that the risk is not at the same level as it was last year. If you watched any of the college football on Saturday you will see thousands attending....roughly 57k at Virginia Techs game! I know its popular to blame the developers and point to greed, but I think its just that we as a country have moved on (well...maybe except for California).

La lamy 09-05-2021 07:31 AM

IMHO I think outdoor activities should continue to be allowed with social distancing in mind, and indoor activities only for vaccinated.

I'm Popeye! 09-05-2021 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1999109)
I noticed you didn’t mention golf?

You might not remember, does happen to older folks, but golf playing was NOT shut down during that period for me to mention, while Pickle Ball and Rec Centers were,,...

MrFlorida 09-05-2021 08:33 AM

I would think that since most people here have been vaccinated has something to do with it.

njbchbum 09-05-2021 08:38 AM

Just another anti-developer inflammatory post. Meh!

Lottoguy 09-05-2021 08:50 AM

The vast majority are now vaccinated with two shots in TV. That is the difference.

I'm Popeye! 09-05-2021 08:57 AM

Just an opinion post that I posted for you to get all Shook-up about. :coolsmiley:

I'm Popeye! 09-05-2021 08:59 AM

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I'm Popeye! 09-05-2021 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1999249)
The vast majority are now vaccinated with two shots in TV. That is the difference.

Thank you, good answer that I respect. :coolsmiley:

Goldwingnut 09-05-2021 09:18 AM

One can assume by your post's title and ill-informed comments that you do not understand much about The Villages community. The recreation amenities are not run or controlled by the developer but by an independent management and governmental body run principally by elected residents. There is a significant difference between the community/government "The Villages" and the developer "The Villages of Lake Sumter, Inc. or The Villages Holding Company" or any of the other dozens of companies they own.

The closures were done based on CDC, state, and county health official recommendations and directions. The goal has been to keep as much of the activities and lifestyle facilities as possible open during this period based on the guidance from these bodies, it has not been driven by money. If money was the issue then most of the last year would have been a complete shutdown as it has cost the district government significantly more to keep things open and cleaned and recleaned and recleaned again than it would have to just lock the doors.

Babubhat 09-05-2021 09:23 AM

Get a vaccine and get on with life. You are already dead if you live in fear

Bogie Shooter 09-05-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1999241)
Just another anti-developer inflammatory post. Meh!

I agree, it does get old after awhile.

riley2011 09-06-2021 04:50 AM

Sense of humor
 
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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1999114)
Hey! No sweat! If you get sick you can just go to the movie theater in Brownwood and get 4 free shots (1 in each arm, azz and thigh I hear) with your popcorn and it's all better so it doesn't matter. You can also head to Rural King in Leesburg and they may have some horse meds left in stock. :1rotfl:

I don’t like your sense of humor!

Luggage 09-06-2021 05:04 AM

As a side note, I have not seen one question as to where to get the vaccination in many months, and nobody left here that really wants it or needs it anymore. I suspect in late September when the third booster shot is going to be available everyone will be getting it also that wants it. Those that are not vaccinated will have a much higher chance of course of catching it from other people not vaccinated along with a few breakthrough cases but Life Will go on for most of us. Unfortunately in the last few weeks I have heard about several friends children in their late twenties early thirties dying and I don't know whether they were vaccinated or not cuz I don't have the heart to ask or inquire but I do know they came back crying from trips.

DaleDivine 09-06-2021 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by riley2011 (Post 1999503)
I don’t like your sense of humor!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::clap2::clap2:

banjobob 09-06-2021 05:59 AM

I think you nailed the answer.

Girlcopper 09-06-2021 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1999109)
I noticed you didn’t mention golf?


Maybe they (who ever they are ) learned that outdoor activity if precautions are take don’t spread the virus? Maybe it’s the high percentage of vaccinated villagers?

Bottom line it’s you’re responsible to protect yourself. If you think rec centers or any activity in villages puts you at risk, don’t go.

Exactly. Plus the govt restrictions have changed. Has nothing to do with money

Laker14 09-06-2021 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1999267)
One can assume by your post's title and ill-informed comments that you do not understand much about The Villages community. The recreation amenities are not run or controlled by the developer but by an independent management and governmental body run principally by elected residents. There is a significant difference between the community/government "The Villages" and the developer "The Villages of Lake Sumter, Inc. or The Villages Holding Company" or any of the other dozens of companies they own.

The closures were done based on CDC, state, and county health official recommendations and directions. The goal has been to keep as much of the activities and lifestyle facilities as possible open during this period based on the guidance from these bodies, it has not been driven by money. If money was the issue then most of the last year would have been a complete shutdown as it has cost the district government significantly more to keep things open and cleaned and recleaned and recleaned again than it would have to just lock the doors.

thank you for your posts. I have learned a lot by reading them, and watching your videos.
You present facts as facts, and opinions as opinions.

On this matter I have few facts, but I do have an opinion. We should remember that back in February-March-April of 2020 we knew less than we do now about COVID. It was a freaky time, and trying to discern fact from fiction from the bombardment of sensationalized and politicized "news" was impossible. It has been bad, but thankfully, for most of us, not as bad as we were told it could be.
I can't blame anyone for reacting the way they did then, and changing their approach as time has taught us a few things about this pandemic.

Beyond The Wall 09-06-2021 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 1999098)
Why is it that "the Villages" close down Rec Centers, Pickle Ball and other activities during the height of late last year pandemic crisis.
But now that the situation is worst in Florida Rec Centers and Pickle Ball Courts still remain open.
Just wondering the motive and I come to this conclusion, IMHO
$ Its Greed $, "the Villages" management wants Snowbirds to return to the Villages.

Cases, cases, cases! What test are they using? The PCR test that the almighty CDC says in not reliable?! And will stop using in December ? What cycle are they testing at?
Florida’s economy is based on tourism . Why should TV be any different?

richs631 09-06-2021 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1999109)
I noticed you didn’t mention golf?


Maybe they (who ever they are ) learned that outdoor activity if precautions are take don’t spread the virus? Maybe it’s the high percentage of vaccinated villagers?

Bottom line it’s you’re responsible to protect yourself. If you think rec centers or any activity in villages puts you at risk, don’t go.

Thank you. Finally someone with common sense

Beyond The Wall 09-06-2021 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1999179)
Biggest spike is July/August '21. Too early for snowbirds even if frogs do love to blame everything on snowbirds. Could it be illegals around the state?

Love to early to blame snowbirds!😎
Same pattern as last summer. South gets cases, north doesn't . Fall comes and it switches. Has to do with inside activities. Cases don’t mean death, they mean, maybe a cold. The sheep will stay home. Yes people can get very sick and even die. You can also die crossing the street or riding in a car.

Petersweeney 09-06-2021 07:18 AM

If you haven’t had COVID yet get vaccine or check to see if you have antibodies- why are they still telling everyone to get vaccine when if you already had COVID your not going to get it again

sallyg 09-06-2021 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1999113)
I suspect you are correct that the reason is $$, but not necessarily to entice snowbirds to return, it’s to keep the house selling machine running full steam ahead.

Yup.

jimkerr 09-06-2021 07:43 AM

People have to blame someone.

christine J Toft 09-06-2021 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Petersweeney (Post 1999571)
If you haven’t had COVID yet get vaccine or check to see if you have antibodies- why are they still telling everyone to get vaccine when if you already had COVID your not going to get it again

You can in fact, get Covid more than once.

graciegirl 09-06-2021 07:55 AM

Yes. You can "get it again" in the form of the NEW VARIANT.

Not everyone will catch it again.
Most people will not die if they catch it again.
No one wants to get even a cold if they can avoid it.

I do not like to be called "SHEEP" or "Sheeple".
I do not like to be mocked and labeled "afraid".
No one likes to be criticized. Most people are acting according to the information they have been given. Sadly, some of it is incorrect.

I am sad to see anyone die of this ******* virus, but I am relieved that not as many are dying as at the beginning. Most older people, MOST of us have been double vaccinated.

My hope is that, since people have decided to do what they are doing, that all of the people who will get sick will be treated and hopefully not die and that perhaps the worse will be over soon.

My worry is that the ******* virus will change again in hosts that are unvaccinated, or in an animal. I hope MU doesn't stop humans from happening.

I remember just two years ago hugging anyone I wanted to hug.

Good times.

tonycirocco@me.com 09-06-2021 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by riley2011 (Post 1999503)
I don’t like your sense of humor!

I like your sense of humor.

Goldwingnut 09-06-2021 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1999113)
I suspect you are correct that the reason is $$, but not necessarily to entice snowbirds to return, it’s to keep the house selling machine running full steam ahead.

What you "suspect" is wrong, the district government that made/makes the decisions on the closure has nothing to do with home sales, resales, or anything else associated with the developer's business ventures. As I said above, the direction and guidance for the previous and future closure comes from the CDC and State and County medical officials.

I little education about and involvement with how The Villages community works and is structured by many of the posters here would go a long way in quelling the misinformation and false narratives posted here. Of course, for some, it must be that old green-eyed monster "Envy" raising its ugly head that speaks before finding out the facts of the situation. They'll believe only what they want to believe and be consumed by their own discontent.

Waltdisney4life 09-06-2021 08:15 AM

Fake news 90% of infections are not vaccinated. It’s their body their choice so let them be sick. If you’re fully vaccinated the chance of getting Covid is still low so God and enjoy life you’ll never know when the Grim Reaper is coming!

Bill14564 09-06-2021 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall (Post 1999562)
Love to early to blame snowbirds!😎
Same pattern as last summer. South gets cases, north doesn't . Fall comes and it switches. Has to do with inside activities. Cases don’t mean death, they mean, maybe a cold. The sheep will stay home. Yes people can get very sick and even die. You can also die crossing the street or riding in a car.

"Cases don't mean death, they mean, maybe a cold." Currently, 1,500+ people every day are finding that statement to be wrong.

"You can also die crossing the street or riding in a car." Approximately 100 per day, 15 times fewer than are currently dying from Covid. However, to your point, 3,000 auto deaths per month is approximately 10 times *more* than Covid deaths in vaccinated individuals.

Gray lady of the sea 09-06-2021 08:36 AM

Thank you !

bethhoward61 09-06-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 1999098)
Why is it that "the Villages" close down Rec Centers, Pickle Ball and other activities during the height of late last year pandemic crisis.
But now that the situation is worst in Florida Rec Centers and Pickle Ball Courts still remain open.
Just wondering the motive and I come to this conclusion, IMHO
$ Its Greed $, "the Villages" management wants Snowbirds to return to the Villages.

Why would they not return? They pay for their residence in The Villages and amenities just the same as you.


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