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Michael G. 09-20-2021 05:13 PM

Golf Carts Over Priced
 
For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

golfing eagles 09-20-2021 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2007301)
For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

a few economic terms apply:

***supply and demand

***what the market will bear

***caveat emptor

Dana1963 09-20-2021 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2007301)
For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

It makes you wonder the least expensive car is around 16 -18 thousand dollars. Can travel 70mph A/C crash safety tested can carry 4 people fairly comfortably. Most golf carts start at $12,000, 20-25 mph meagerly equipped.

graciegirl 09-20-2021 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2007310)
It makes you wonder the least expensive car is around 16 -18 thousand dollars. Can travel 70mph A/C crash safety tested can carry 4 people fairly comfortably. Most golf carts start at $12,000, 20-25 mph meagerly equipped.

To coin a phrase or two;

a few economic terms apply:

***supply and demand

***what the market will bear

***caveat emptor

Dana1963 09-20-2021 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2007311)
To coin a phrase or two;

a few economic terms apply:

***supply and demand

***what the market will bear

***caveat emptor

That quote was already used by “golfing eagle” let's be original like most comments on comments they just keep repeating in your case it's identical

tvbound 09-20-2021 06:03 PM

Even 6 or 7 years ago, we were shocked about the prices of new ones. There must be a huge markup/profit built in.

UpNorth 09-20-2021 06:05 PM

Considering that a nice 18hp John Deere lawn tractor can be bought for around $3000, Paying 6x that amount for something with 2 seats and an engine seems excessive to me. Yes, I know there are differences. Do it with batteries and an electric motor and the prices seem even crazier.

graciegirl 09-20-2021 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2007315)
That quote was already used by “golfing eagle” let's be original like most comments on comments they just keep repeating in your case it's identical

That's what it means to "coin a phrase".

I absolutely agreed with Dr. Eagle's post. Every single word of it.
And so I repeated it.

JMintzer 09-20-2021 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2007331)
That's what it means to "coin a phrase".

I absolutely agreed with Dr. Eagle's post. Every single word of it.
And so I repeated it.

Um... No...

To coin a phrase means to "invent a new saying or idiomatic expression that is new or unique."

Topspinmo 09-20-2021 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2007301)
For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

Agree, that’s why I didn’t by new one. Even my 2012 1/2 village special listed for $13,995.00. I paid little less than half 6 years ago. Basic golf cart I guessing around 7 to 8 grand. Now add the extra’s (village ready) like lights, bigger tire wheels, enclosure, plush seats, speedometer, basket, custom paint. All that adds up from 8 grand to 14 grand or more now? You can get cheaper villages ready cart off campus, but the extra’s may not be as plush.

My cart still runs like new with around 14K miles. I expect it to outlast me.

John_W 09-20-2021 08:32 PM

I bought a new Yamaha Drive from TV at LSL in 2011, I still have the cart and have never had any trouble, never needed repair. At the time I priced a new Yamaha gas with no extras at a dealer in Kentucky (Cunningham Carts) for $5,900, the only upgrade was it had headlights and tail lights. They would deliver I believe for $300. Then I would have to add Sunbrella curtains, a cooler, upgraded seats, 10" tires and nicer wheels, floor mats, sand bottle, pinstriping, rearview mirrors and I wanted a black roof.

I went to LSL Villages store and got all that brand new for $10,300, so you can see prices have gone up a lot in ten years. The Ultimate Seats ($1500), they're similar to the El Tigre they sell now, in fact they're made in the same factory. The black roof at that time they had to remove the roof and spray paint it on both sides ($300), now I believe they come from the factory with the plastic roofs already colored, not painted.

In the ten years I've owned the cart I've changed the folddown windshield to a tinted windshield that flips outward on the bottom ($199) a second sand bottle, an extra insulted 12 pack cooler ($100), a ball & club washer, a AM/FM/CD overhead radio console, a fan, a cigarette lighter which I use to plug in the fan and a dashcam, a solid rubber floor mat, Liquid LED lights over the headlights and tail lights and all along the side, an overhead shelf in the back I use to store towels. Just two weeks ago I added diamond plated rocker sills, diamond kick guard and diamond plate foot pedals.

At the prices they're asking within TV now, you can still check out of state, places in Alabama and Kentucky, all on the internet and ship the cart here. Also at I-4 Power Equipment in Webster about 20 miles south they're $2,000 cheaper. You don't have to buy from TV just because it's new.

PS - I almost forgot. In an effort to make the cart more quiet like the new Yamahas, I ordered a 25' roll of car engine hood insulation. It's 5/8" rubber that's very sticky on one side and silver foil on the other. I did as much of the engine compartment as I could and even put two layers on the bottom of my Ultimate Seats. It will never be as quiet as the new ones since the bottom is not enclosed. However, I'm not sure that's a good thing to have the engine completely sealed, I don't see how they can get any cooling. I heard it's pretty normal to reach 170 degrees and even higher in the newer carts. I've very happy with my 2011.


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graciegirl 09-20-2021 10:55 PM

to coin a phrase
[to coin a phrase]
DEFINITION
said ironically when introducing a banal remark or cliché.
"I had to find out the hard way—to coin a phrase"
said when introducing a new expression or a variation on a familiar one.

eaning of to coin a phrase in English

to coin a phrase
humorous

something you say before using an expression that has been very popular or used too much:
I was, to coin a phrase, gobsmacked!

Shbullet 09-20-2021 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2007387)
to coin a phrase
[to coin a phrase]
DEFINITION
said ironically when introducing a banal remark or cliché.
"I had to find out the hard way—to coin a phrase"
said when introducing a new expression or a variation on a familiar one.

eaning of to coin a phrase in English

to coin a phrase
humorous

something you say before using an expression that has been very popular or used too much:
I was, to coin a phrase, gobsmacked!

GG your reply sounds like a time that you shouldnt have replied.

jswirs 09-21-2021 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2007305)
a few economic terms apply:

***supply and demand

***what the market will bear

***caveat emptor

Which is why I have taken steps to my the theft of our cart more difficult.
And, I advise others to do the same.

Black Beauty 09-21-2021 05:04 AM

Inflation is here..big time

midiwiz 09-21-2021 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2007310)
It makes you wonder the least expensive car is around 16 -18 thousand dollars. Can travel 70mph A/C crash safety tested can carry 4 people fairly comfortably. Most golf carts start at $12,000, 20-25 mph meagerly equipped.

if you build on on the Yamaha site similarly equipped as Village GC it's roughly $2000 less than their base price which is over $12K ... the place on 441 is also $2k less but added options aka "the package" is also a bit different.

also as everyone already knows you are in T.V. if you want to pay less for practically anything you better shop far away from here.

Jewelz 09-21-2021 05:53 AM

John_W SO glad you're back....you have been missed!!!!

donfey 09-21-2021 06:04 AM

inflation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Beauty (Post 2007412)
Inflation is here..big time

FINALLY, someone commented on the fact that the money isn't "worth" as much as it was just a few years ago. It's gonna get worse.

MidWestIA 09-21-2021 06:05 AM

Gator
 
wish I could take a JD gator on a golf course

Luggage 09-21-2021 06:08 AM

So many people have big egos and must buy new. The golf cart we have, we bought about 20 years ago used for $2,000 and is perfectly fine, of course we've gone through several sets of batteries and in today's market we could probably sell it for what we paid or more. If you go through a retailer in The villages they are going to make a 100% markup from their cost, if you travel down the road and buy something two or three years old you can probably say 50% and buy a two or three year old cart that was used as a golf cart and rental on a course. For a laugh, go to a farm store and check out an ATV price or what a tractor cost !

Girlcopper 09-21-2021 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 2007410)
Which is why I have taken steps to my the theft of our cart more difficult.
And, I advise others to do the same.

I would think extra steps would be taken for any property to be protected against theft

merrymini 09-21-2021 06:35 AM

We bought an electric golf cart, new, about 7 years ago and paid about $8K. Runs like a dream and I got to pick the color! Never going for the high priced stuff.

Dantes 09-21-2021 06:38 AM

Buy out of the area save thousands

banjobob 09-21-2021 06:41 AM

Grossly overpriced ,as is the service on them , not a sin to make a profit .

Driver8 09-21-2021 06:43 AM

Could you imagine this?
 
I think The Villages should develop a drag strip and road course for golf carts.

Road-Runner 09-21-2021 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver8 (Post 2007457)
I think The Villages should develop a drag strip and road course for golf carts.

Best idea I've read yet! All you'd need for the road course is a bunch of traffic cones and an empty parking lot! Cart-o-Cross anyone?

armywrestle 09-21-2021 07:06 AM

Looking for suggestions for have radio/sound system installed on cart.

Thanks in advance.

MrFlorida 09-21-2021 07:09 AM

Buy away (out of state) and have it shipped here, we in TV are a captive audience, and everyone must have one, of course they know that, and can charge what they want.

Larchap49 09-21-2021 07:25 AM

Quiettech cart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 2007366)
I bought a new Yamaha Drive from TV at LSL in 2011, I still have the cart and have never had any trouble, never needed repair. At the time I priced a new Yamaha gas with no extras at a dealer in Kentucky (Cunningham Carts) for $5,900, the only upgrade was it had headlights and tail lights. They would deliver I believe for $300. Then I would have to add Sunbrella curtains, a cooler, upgraded seats, 10" tires and nicer wheels, floor mats, sand bottle, pinstriping, rearview mirrors and I wanted a black roof.

I went to LSL Villages store and got all that brand new for $10,300, so you can see prices have gone up a lot in ten years. The Ultimate Seats ($1500), they're similar to the El Tigre they sell now, in fact they're made in the same factory. The black roof at that time they had to remove the roof and spray paint it on both sides ($300), now I believe they come from the factory with the plastic roofs already colored, not painted.

In the ten years I've owned the cart I've changed the folddown windshield to a tinted windshield that flips outward on the bottom ($199) a second sand bottle, an extra insulted 12 pack cooler ($100), a ball & club washer, a AM/FM/CD overhead radio console, a fan, a cigarette lighter which I use to plug in the fan and a dashcam, a solid rubber floor mat, Liquid LED lights over the headlights and tail lights and all along the side, an overhead shelf in the back I use to store towels. Just two weeks ago I added diamond plated rocker sills, diamond kick guard and diamond plate foot pedals.

At the prices they're asking within TV now, you can still check out of state, places in Alabama and Kentucky, all on the internet and ship the cart here. Also at I-4 Power Equipment in Webster about 20 miles south they're $2,000 cheaper. You don't have to buy from TV just because it's new.

PS - I almost forgot. In an effort to make the cart more quiet like the new Yamahas, I ordered a 25' roll of car engine hood insulation. It's 5/8" rubber that's very sticky on one side and silver foil on the other. I did as much of the engine compartment as I could and even put two layers on the bottom of my Ultimate Seats. It will never be as quiet as the new ones since the bottom is not enclosed. However, I'm not sure that's a good thing to have the engine completely sealed, I don't see how they can get any cooling. I heard it's pretty normal to reach 170 degrees and even higher in the newer carts. I've very happy with my 2011.



.

Part of what makes the new carts quiet besides the exhaust being closed in is the spark arrester. When my new cart started bogging down or chugging on acceleration after it was restarted when hot. Service dept said it was because the spark arrester restricted the exhaust and made the engine run hotter causing the gas to vaporize in the fuel line, (called vapor lock) they also said eventually it would plug up and cause a loss of power, eventually to the point where it would barley move.
Mine was already losing power on the up hill grades after tunnels. They removed the arrester and that did cure the problems but the cart is noticeably louder now. I guess that is the trade off.

BostonRich 09-21-2021 07:51 AM

Interesting option:
 
Four Passenger Electric Golf Car LSV Low Speed Vehicle Golf Cart 4 Seater 60v Coco Coupe With AC & Heat

Enclosed Heated/Air Conditioned Electric Mobility Scooter E-Runner SW - Scooter Factory USA 1-888-406-0645

I would think a DYI golf car kit would be great. There really isn't a lot to them and if you eliminate the labor, how much can the parts cost?

DAVES 09-21-2021 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Beauty (Post 2007412)
Inflation is here..big time

Cause and effect. A golf cart is not a need but a desire. Simple options, don't buy one, buy a used one.

With all the new ones being sold, somewhere there must be a junk yard selling golf carts.
Not far from my previous home, there was a boat yard and they always had boats offered for free. If, you want it get it out of our way. No I never did it.

chenault55 09-21-2021 07:52 AM

Golf carts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2007301)
For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

I’ve been saying that for years! You could just about buy a small car with air, radio etc yet we’ve bought 3 in 12 years and that’s how they get away with it. I feel a little less intelligent each time. There needs to be a support group and a boycott to get free of this terrible decision making!🤔🧐😱🤪

Captainpd 09-21-2021 08:15 AM

Theft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 2007410)
Which is why I have taken steps to my the theft of our cart more difficult.
And, I advise others to do the same.

If a thief wants your golf cart, you can't stop him. All those little cute anti theft devices are useless against professionals.

b0bd0herty 09-21-2021 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2007334)
Um... No...

To coin a phrase means to "invent a new saying or idiomatic expression that is new or unique."

to coin a phrase

DEFINITION
said ironically when introducing a banal remark or cliché.
"I had to find out the hard way—to coin a phrase"
said when introducing a new expression or a variation on a familiar one

Michael G. 09-21-2021 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantes (Post 2007454)
Buy out of the area save thousands

And pay back thousands trying to get it serviced.

Vermilion Villager 09-21-2021 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2007576)
And pay back thousands trying to get it serviced.

I thought that might be true and called The Villages Golf Cars in Brownwood. I told them I had a golf car that needed service but was not bought there. They said "bring it in!":coolsmiley:

OhioBuckeye 09-21-2021 09:35 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2007301)
For how their constructed and rough ride, you think home use Golf carts are over priced
for what you get for your $$$$$ ??:gc:

I went to a couple of places where they were suppose to be cheaper & they were no less, you had to pick your options out of a book. I ended up getting mine at Colony Cottage & got a better deal money wise & got more options for free here. There’s 70,000
golf carts in TV, so they aren’t that expensive. You could buy a used one but then you don’t know what you’re getting!

John_W 09-21-2021 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armywrestle (Post 2007477)
Looking for suggestions for have radio/sound system installed on cart.

Thanks in advance.

eBay is full of overhead radio consoles for golf carts priced from about $80 for a empty console to about $169 to $450 for those with radios and speakers installed. Here's a link.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...nsole&_sacat=0

I wanted a CD player in mine and those with a CD are about $450 on eBay, so I bought a blank empty overhead console for about $80 on eBay, you'll see them at that link. I went to Walmart in Leesburg and bought a JVC radio AM/FM/CD for $79 and a pair of Pioneer speakers there for $42. Put the items in the console and attached it to the ceiling of my cart with 4 bolts I drilled through the roof. Bought a roof antenna on eBay for $17 and drilled a hole about a foot behind the radio and connected the antenna to the radio. Then ran two wires from the radio to my battery. I took the wires down one of the support posts behind my seat straight to the battery using tie-wraps. One wire was a negative and one to the positive. Took about two hours to install, I was taking my time. Here's a photo at the link.

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...11&oe=616EB7E2

The reason I have black duct tape above the radio is because there is about a 1/2" gap due to the curvature of the roof and I got a slight rattle when I turned the radio loud. I filled the gap with spray foam and to hide the ugliness of the foam, I put black duct tape over the foam.

I installed this about year ago and works perfect. Some say don't install a CD player it will skip, mine doesn't skip at all. You'll find radios with XM capability, I have XM in my car but I didn't want to spend $6 a month with XM for a second radio. I only drive my cart when I play golf.

The easiest way to get music to your cart is if you have a smart phone with unlimited data, just get a bluetooth speaker. I have a neighbor who runs Spotify or XM through a bluetooth, and he has a big boom box type bluetooth speaker mounted on the dash against the windshield and I can hear it at my house about 100' away.

tophcfa 09-21-2021 10:16 AM

I agree that there has to be a large profit margin for what one gets in a golf cart. That being said, if you try to buy a new golf cart these days you will quickly find out they are very short on inventory and you will most likely be waiting months before your purchase is actually available. Basic supply and demand economics results in higher prices when supply is limited and demand is strong. For us, it’s hard to not want really nice golf carts in the Villages, we use them almost exclusively, our car can sit for weeks at a time without moving. Sometimes I take the car out for a ride for no other reason than to circulate some fresh gas through the fuel delivery system and prevent the tires from getting flat spots. I really want to upgrade our perfectly fine 2014 Yamaha EFI to a new quiet-tech, so our aging backs can benefit from the fully independent rear suspension, but I am too cheap to justify a $10,000 upgrade for only one feature I desire that’s not in our 2014. Drive on : )

New Englander 09-21-2021 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 2007366)
I bought a new Yamaha Drive from TV at LSL in 2011, I still have the cart and have never had any trouble, never needed repair. At the time I priced a new Yamaha gas with no extras at a dealer in Kentucky (Cunningham Carts) for $5,900, the only upgrade was it had headlights and tail lights. They would deliver I believe for $300. Then I would have to add Sunbrella curtains, a cooler, upgraded seats, 10" tires and nicer wheels, floor mats, sand bottle, pinstriping, rearview mirrors and I wanted a black roof.

I went to LSL Villages store and got all that brand new for $10,300, so you can see prices have gone up a lot in ten years. The Ultimate Seats ($1500), they're similar to the El Tigre they sell now, in fact they're made in the same factory. The black roof at that time they had to remove the roof and spray paint it on both sides ($300), now I believe they come from the factory with the plastic roofs already colored, not painted.

In the ten years I've owned the cart I've changed the folddown windshield to a tinted windshield that flips outward on the bottom ($199) a second sand bottle, an extra insulted 12 pack cooler ($100), a ball & club washer, a AM/FM/CD overhead radio console, a fan, a cigarette lighter which I use to plug in the fan and a dashcam, a solid rubber floor mat, Liquid LED lights over the headlights and tail lights and all along the side, an overhead shelf in the back I use to store towels. Just two weeks ago I added diamond plated rocker sills, diamond kick guard and diamond plate foot pedals.

At the prices they're asking within TV now, you can still check out of state, places in Alabama and Kentucky, all on the internet and ship the cart here. Also at I-4 Power Equipment in Webster about 20 miles south they're $2,000 cheaper. You don't have to buy from TV just because it's new.

PS - I almost forgot. In an effort to make the cart more quiet like the new Yamahas, I ordered a 25' roll of car engine hood insulation. It's 5/8" rubber that's very sticky on one side and silver foil on the other. I did as much of the engine compartment as I could and even put two layers on the bottom of my Ultimate Seats. It will never be as quiet as the new ones since the bottom is not enclosed. However, I'm not sure that's a good thing to have the engine completely sealed, I don't see how they can get any cooling. I heard it's pretty normal to reach 170 degrees and even higher in the newer carts. I've very happy with my 2011.


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