Ryder cup excitement, GO USA
 

45,000 fans stay safe, disappointed in Speith/Thomas yesterday but Jordan had shot of day, too bad Thomas didn't make putt., maybe today will be better.

Speith and Thomas have been a huge disappointment. I was surprised to see Thomas drive on the first hole this morning. It seems that most groups have the shorter driver drive on one so the bomber can drive on the par five second.

It is great to see the US up however. Things are much tighter this morning. Hope they can hold on.

Crowds remind me of Happy Gilmore, loud, rude and disrespectful of the etiquette rules of golf. Flame me if you want, just the way I see it.

Coming from Wisconsin and living near this golf course makes me homesick, (but just a little.)
Having fished Lake Michigan in the past, I find watching the lake conditions more then the golfers........LOL

As in most Ryder Cup's, on paper, it shouldn't even be close, with the USA having a huge advantage. However, the Europeans have proved time and time again, that as a "team" they are tough to beat. I just want good matches, good sportsmanship and for the 'ugly' fans to be kept to a minimum.

Finally, my boy Jordan came thru for Americans, yea!

Yes, why can't they be perfect 100% of the time.


:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Does Poulter make you want to tweek his ear, golly gee wizz!

There's just no possible way that we can now lose it in singles tomorrow, correct? Please tell me I'm correct - please.

USA has to lose 9 of the 12 matches... Not very likely, but not impossible, either...

Ryder Cup
 

Great matches yesterday. Rahm was unbelievable.

Fans
 

Originally, the Ryder Cup was started to honor sportsmanship between the U.S. and the U.K. Todays fans "ugly" behavior makes me cringe when I see them yelling during their opponents swing, yelling that they hope it goes in the tall weeds, applauding when they miss a putt. A disgrace.
If the Europeans exhibit this "ugly" behavior when we visit them, then that is equally shameful.
The real winner should be sportsmanship as Jack Nicklaus did with Tony Jacklin years ago, not who gets to hold the trophy for 2 years.

What a golf course, sure not for the faint of heart.

agree

I completely agree!

Even when your ball is still playable, just getting to it can be hazardous. It is a 2-3 sleeve course for most of us average hackers. Don't ask me how I know. lol

So true. Wish I saw how the players climbed in and out of some of those tough spots. And I worry about a “tough” bunker here! So fun to watch the Ryder

No one is expecting them to be perfect but they got beat 3&1 and it was never that close.

Of course they were playing the European juggernaut of Rahm and Garcia so I guess we can cut them a bit of slack.

Yep, almost saw Speith going for a swim after one shot. Couldn't keep his balance.
:shocked::shocked:

The biggest comebacks in Ryder Cup history were from 10-6. The Europeans would shock the world if they came back from this. But looking at the match ups for singles, almost every one of them could go either way.

I've been to the Ryder Cup and what a lot of people don't think about is that there are 45,00-50,000 fans and there are only four groups on the golf course on Friday and Saturday.

I think that's why they have so many more grandstands.

Personally, when I go to a golf tournament I like to walk around, see the course and see different players on different holes.

Although it's nice to see these great players in person, watching golf on television is much better.

Ryder Cup Fans vs Solheim Cup
 

The fan behavior at the Ryder Cup is disappointing, especially in light of the fact that few Euros could attend to counter them. I attended the Solheim Cup at Inverness Club in Toledo earlier this month. Fantastic! Fans were much more respectful of the Euro ladies. And an attendance record was set there at 130,000+.

I love the performance thus far of Team USA but The Ryder Cup is now officially a Snoozefest........The LPGA Walmart Tournament has 23 pros within 5 shots today and therefore a chance to win the trophy. It's gonna be a hot day in Arkansas for this shoot out.!! GO USA gals (and Matilda from Finland)!!

It's a once every two year thing so I can put up with it. I don't like it when people are saying or shouting out rude things to players but it is a very different atmosphere. It's our team against their team. I think that it's great to root for your team. Booing the opposition is uncalled for. Most of these guys are friendly. They know each other very well.

The broadcast had so many ads and so much “playing through” that is was equal to the actual game time. For me it was so bad I quit watching. If they need that many ad $$$$ to make it work then it will fail as a major broadcast event. I quit watching football and now it looks like golf is done for different reasons.

Overall, some great golf shots all day by members of both teams. Given the relative young age of our team, the future looks a lot brighter than how we've performed in the last few decades or so.

GO USA!!

In the post match interviews, European Captain Padraig Harrington said the crowds were great, the people of Wisconsin were really nice. Whoever complained that these crowds were bad, you must of never watched the Ryder Cup before, or especially from Europe. The golf crowds at those events are just like soccer crowds in Europe, they very rowdy. The US crowds were very respectful, almost too much at times. Here, see the 2018 Cup in Europe.

Ryder Cup Crowd 2018 - YouTube

I think the U.S. crowds at the Ryder Cup feel they have a certain standard of golf hooliganism to uphold :boxing2: They set the tone at the 1999 Ryder Cup at Brookline MA when one of the most epic comebacks in golf occurred. But all anyone wanted to talk about afterwards was the rowdy, uncivilized fans. The Euro players were disgusted by the fans, but more so by the players themselves for their dreadful behavior as well breaches of golf etiquette, especially the infamous, premature celebration on the green at the 17th hole when Justin Leonard tied it. Ben Crenshaw was their fiery captain and all agreed he motivated them to turn things around when they were down 10-6.

Even though there were loud complaints about the boorish behavior by European players and also U.S. golf officials and some media, that game was a watershed in professional golf and for the PGA. It ushered in a new era of excitement (the Tiger years) and unprecedented interest in the game which expanded its appeal worldwide. Along with that came a new attitude and approach as players exhibited more emotion on the course and felt comfortable expressing their individuality, perhaps at the expense of hallowed traditions and expected behavior in regards to good sportsmanship.

Proud how Jordan Spieth and Fleetwood ended match on 18 with picking up markers giving each a half point. From a caddie perspective, tough course to carry bag and in some places dangerous to walk, yipsters!

Observation
 

An old observation was the extra player in a Golf Tournament and Base Ball Game is the Greens Keeper. I think we may have seen some of that in the Ryder Cup? I have been a Marshall at a number of Tournaments including US Opens, etc and I have never seen so many balls go around the cup and not drop in as in the Ryder Cup over the last few days. This does not mean it was intentional but rather may have been a mistake by the person putting in or changing the cups? If you put the cup in and push it down and fail to bring the edges up to meet the surrounding grass level the ball will do exactly as what was happening in the tournament. Did anyone else have a question about the balls not dropping? Since the impact would be on both teams it would not appear to be intentional?:popcorn:

If you are saying that the plastic liner for the hole should be level with the ground, that is not correct. Here is the PGA rule for golf holes:

"The hole's outer diameter must not exceed 4 1/4 inches, the depth is a minimum of 4 inches and the liner must sit 1 inch below the putting surface."

Sometimes, practice greens will have the liner level with the putting surface to make the hole more shallow and to protect the putting surface around the hole, but that is not according to the PGA rule. It is highly unlikely that the holes at the Ryder Cup would not be installed according to the PGA rules.

Understand..BUT
 

I understand the theory that the surface around the hole has PGA regulations HOWEVER it was my observation there was an excessive number of "roll arounds" in the tournament which I don't recall ever seeing that many in a regular PGA Tournament? I also know the PGA has a number of Officials who inspect every aspect of the tournament before a tee off. Having said that I continue to believe there were more "roll arounds" at the hole than I have seen in the past. :ho:

I always putt the ball toward the center of the hole, so I don't have that problem.

The venue was beautiful, games were fun to watch but they should have skipped the team interview afterward. Was anyone else disappointed by the team behavior at the interview?

I was sad to think that team represented the USA with their behavior. I felt they behaved like a group of first year frat boys at a party, drunk, some trying to pretend they knew how to smoke, cocky responses at times and giggling like young school girls, leaving a poor impression of Americans. I’m a huge fan of the Ryder Cup competition but this peek at the participants real personalities has turned me off, big time!

Suggestion for next Ryder Cup, hold the booze and cheap cigars for the party back in your rooms. We weren’t impressed.

The players commented that they did NOT know there was a media event after the tournament that they were expected to attend.

2023 Ryder Cup - Wikipedia

The next on is near Rome in 2023.

Marco Simone Golf and Country Club - Wikipedia

Does that mean they had absolutely no control over themselves at that point? I felt Steve Stricker was uncomfortable with some of the behavior also.

I liked how Brooks shook Bryson's hand on the 18th while waiting for the others. Then at the press conference Justin Thomas said, I want to see Brooks and Bryson hug it out, and they did.

Here's the handshake

Brooks Koepka & Bryson DeChambeau Hug it Out @ the Ryder Cup - YouTube

Here's the hug

One More Brooksy for the Books - YouTube

Here's the press conference that I saw. I don't see any hooliganism, bad manners, terrible conduct, it's almost too tame.

U.S. team wanted to send a message with Ryder Cup win | Live from the Ryder Cup | Golf Channel - YouTube

I thought that the team interview was the highlight of the week. It was great to see those guys loosen up and have fun. I suspect that's what it's like in the locker rooms.

I was disappointed that I didn't see the closing ceremony and couldn't find it anywhere. Have they done away with it?

Oh yes !!!! God forbid they had a little fun
 

I mean it’s golf you have to be soooooo serious

I was turned off by the video where they showed several players complaining because their opponent didn't concede a short putt. Conceding a putt is entirely at the option of your opponent. I think it is bad sportsmanship to make a negative comment or gesture about a player who wants you to putt out.