Experiencing the hospital
 

I'm getting to experience TVH for the first time in a handful of years. VERY busy with patients varying with reasons to be there.. The main thing I've observed so far. they are short on staffing. With that, my care has been kind and thoughtful. The triage nurse told me the shortages won't be getting better neither. By 2026 they're saying a nurses shortage of 1 million. That's pretty significant.

Perhaps, advice for people looking for a profession there are and will be openings. It is far from easy. Your customers are all ill. People you like die in your care. Oh and you get to deal with attorneys, insurance companies, etc etc etc. "Kind and thoughtful," imagine what she/he goes through. Perhaps, the patient just before you was abusive,drunk etc etc etc

Don't worry the 70,000 that NY is firing will make there way to Florida.

And they'll be turned down too, until they get vaccinated.

I would prefer they go elsewhere, to be honest.

Follow the $$
 

I am horrified by the incredibly LOW salaries paid to nurses
(across all types) are paid.
In this time in history, nursing personnel are EXPECTED to put their lives on the line and work long hours for UNDER 35K.
ARE YOU INSANE?
Geography changes but the DANGERS of Covid and antivaxers DO NOT IMPROVE.
Get with it. You want more staff?
Shoot the lock off your wallets and PAY THE FRONT LINE PROFESSIONALS.

The average salary for new RNs in Florida is $49-78K/year...

So far none of my family that works at facilities have mandated vaccine. Each facility is connected to hundreds of hospitals under same health groups. Three are travelers, with 800 open positions. Only a few have you weekly tested, if not vaccinated.

Anyone who goes into the healthcare field definitely knows the challenges prior to ever taking their boards, or that first Mcats.

The pandemic forced many into furlong time off. If you were not assigned to a Covid floor, your hours were cut to half, some all hours were cut. Leaving many with no income, or healthcare. Many didn’t receive the bail out free money from the government, because their employer chose to not allow it.

Many that were close to retiring in the next couple of years, chose to go early. As far as not wanting a unvaccinated healthcare worker taking care of you, just remember they worked the entire pandemic without a vaccine, or proper PPE. Yet they still took care of anyone who came to their facility.

Pretty sure if you don’t want them to continue what they have been doing since 2020, they will be happy to let you save yourself.

There is alway's a first time for everything correct?

This is the first time I wish I wish you weren't honest. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I would bet you if are rolled in with a ruptured appendix, or a stemi, the last thing you will care about is who is vaccinated.

But if you do have that worry you can always walk out and find a different facility, or do the surgery yourself.
Just make sure you have a sharp knife. Vodka makes a good over the counter anesthetic, but it makes your hand shake a little.

Just remember they can live without you, most likely you will not live without them

That makes me feel safe. 🤨

[QUOTE=thelegges;2010262]So far none of my family that works at facilities have mandated vaccine. Each facility is connected to hundreds of hospitals under same health groups. Three are travelers, with 800 open positions. Only a few have you weekly tested, if not vaccinated.

Anyone who goes into the healthcare field definitely knows the challenges prior to ever taking their boards, or that first Mcats.

The pandemic forced many into furlong time off. If you were not assigned to a Covid floor, your hours were cut to half, some all hours were cut. Leaving many with no income, or healthcare. Many didn’t receive the bail out free money from the government, because their employer chose to not allow it.

Many that were close to retiring in the next couple of years, chose to go early. As far as not wanting a unvaccinated healthcare worker taking care of you, just remember they worked the entire pandemic without a vaccine, or proper PPE. Yet they still took care of anyone who came to their facility.

Pretty sure if you don’t want them to continue what they have been doing since 2020, they will be happy to let you save yourself.[/QUOTE



So many who condemn now, ignore the sacrifice many front line workers made during the pre-vaccine time!

I welcome them. They are the smart ones

Great, 70,000 more "smart" people moving to Florida from up north. I'm starting to see a pattern.

:bigbow::bigbow:

Great scoop. The nursing shortage cycle has been the same for the last 25 years.

The only thing she worries about is the vaccine

Working nurses hard!
 

About 20 years ago, the nursing shift moved from 8 hours to 12 hours. This essentially reduced matured nurses from the work force. Part time and contingent positions are very rare. There is a lot of gold not being mined in the nursing field. Sad.

I would prefer the nurses who were heroes last year working during a pandemic be respected and allowed to help the patients in the Villages..Saying they should go elsewhere is saying neighbors should not be treated for heart attacks, strokes etc in a timely caring manner because there are not enough nurses.

unfortunately, I have heard from staff here that's it's more difficult than other places to find nurses who want to work here. the reason is that our population is all the same, older, and many die. It's not the most rewarding type of nursing so they go elsewhere.

I recently spent 12 hours (overnight) in the ER waiting room (no beds available) until 6AM the next morning. Everything was OK, but they just didn't have enough help. The ER nurse said her shift was from 8pm to 9am. There were over a dozen people in the ER waiting room with various problems and she was doing her best.

really? to me they are the ones who can not read and interpret scientific research at all.

Not true----most hospitals have both 8 and 12 hour nursing shifts. Some nurses have a preference for one or the other, and it has nothing to do with age. We had one nurse on a surgical floor who was 70 years old and always opted for the 12 hour shifts so she could spend more time with her grandchildren. Also, a lot of "mature" nurses have advanced from direct patient care to administrative positions, or continued on to nurse practitioner, or went to ancillary jobs such as pharmaceutical rep or phone advice for insurers.

They staff for the expected patient census, and that situation is determined months in advance. Then they meet spikes in patient census with travelers or temps. Problem this time is that all the hospitals in FL are at or near capacity, so there are not enough travelers or temps. The situation is made worse by Florida’s refusal to grant reciprocal licensure with other states. It costs $500 and a month of bureaucratic bullfeathers for a licensed career nurse from out of state.to obtain a Florida license.

Great thought!

I tried to make lemonade out of lemons and we get the usual negative responses. Big shock! It's a shame people live with the glass half empty or want to attack. The op who spent hours in ER got it. What they saw, I saw.
I've seen staff handling difficult situations with grace and calm.

Why?

I don’t know what your problem was
 

the emergency room at the tradewinds plaza on 466a is fast and professional , I had to get some quick stiches I was in and out in an hour , they have beds for people if they have to get you bed in hospital , it’s a well run operation

Been in the TV hospital many times. Always treated very well. Yes it is a busy place, but the care I got was ALWAYS 1st class. The nurses worked hard to ensure the best care possible. Say what you want, My hat is off to them everyday!!! Thank You !!!

Is it Fair?
 

My Son-in-law has worked TVH covid-19 floor for over a year. $26 hour. Current storages of nursing staff being handled by temp Travel Nurses @ $5k a week. Because? Professional Medical staff don't want to live in "The Outback" (TV) for minimum wage. Why would I work here.. Low pay, low benifits, High work load, nothing for young people to do single or married with Kids (let's go line dance with Grandparents I don't know). Why would they live here?


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Reality denied by most.

Carl

Odd. To me they are the ones with brains who look at all data and make their own decisions I guess some like being told what to believe. We get it. Thinking is difficult for some.

Well, you can thank the anti-vaxxers for that. The solution might be for lower or free higher education for Doctors or medical staff. Please do NOT just bring in immigrants to an already overpopulated and trouble-prone America! Reduce the time in school significantly for nurses and other medical staff and allow them to go to free night school or other flexible classes/ They will be getting on-the-job training as they go.

That number is insane. My wife is an RN (still working). She doesn't know ONE healthcare provider that did not get vaccinated, and she knows and works with a LOT. They were allmost all vaccinated in January, and the few that chose to wait got it in April/May after they saw the results from the first groups. Now this is in Wisconsin, but believe me, the number is blown way out of proportion by the antivaxers. Do you really want to be served by Nurses too stupid to protect themselves? I don't. Believe me, you don't want my wife to lecture you either :1rotfl:

Please thank him. My best friend Chris almost died there in August, he credits them with saving his life. We came down to TV and Chris tested Positive the second day. Went into the TV hospital on Day 6 and got out 2 weeks later. One step from intubation and blood clots in legs and lungs (59 years old). My vaccinated wife and I took care of him for the first week. We were submerged in the Delta varriant and never got a sniffle - I can tell you both Pfizer(my wife) and Moderna (me) work VERY well.
He is entering week 9 on Saturday and is finally down to 2 1/2 liters a minute of oxygen.

He apologizes over and over to my RN wife and I for not listening and getting vaccinated - his best statement "This is definitely NOT the flu". When he was able, he posted on social media for everyone to get vaccinated. Well DUH!

When he was in there the place was overrun with Covid patients, it took him 4 days stay in the ER before he got an actual room. Our only complaint is they could communicate better, since Covid patients brains are basically totally fogged up and they have no idea what is going on. The doctor with facetimed with on the last day put it best "This hospital is overrun with antivaxxers, if everyone would get vaccinated, I could get a vacation for the first time in 2 years". He looked pretty beat.

As far as wages, Nurses up here make 30-40 an hour. many do the travel thing because they make huge money. There has always been a shortage. One of the issues is that many who finish school only last a few years and then leave - too much stress.
I keep telling my wife we should retire and move to TV now, and she can just do Travel nurse for like 20 weeks every winter in the TV hospital :)

Nurses have feelings too, and yes, dealing with the elderly day after day does wear on younger people who don't want to turn into us. . . but they will. . . they can get frustrated not understanding that everyone turns into us, unless they are unlucky prior. .

Very true, and the same could be said for teachers not being paid enough. And if that is ALL taken a step further - what part of society is ALL the wealth locked up in? And what was the mechanism by which that was allowed to or intentionally happened? Clue....It relates to Warren Buffet's statement that he WANTED to be taxed MORE.

I disagree with the content of this post.

I agree with you on this. Both my wife and I are in the middle of some serious health issues here in TV and absolutely everyone we deal with is vaxxed at all the various Dr offices, clinics, the Village's Hosp and Ocala Regional. And they did not get their shots because someone made them do it.

If you can't be safe from the pandemic in a hospital, where can you be safe? The anti-vaxxers are causing this continuing Pandemic (that should be over by now). Why reward them with work when they are the PROBLEM, not the SOLUTION ?????

When the “end” comes it won’t be even one third of the 70,000 that will lose their jobs.