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Penglobal 09-28-2021 12:02 PM

A Thank-You To My Snowbird Friends
 
As a newbie to The Villages, several of my neighbors have done a great job by providing me with advice on all aspects of living here. Strangely to me, one of my neighbors also warned me to be careful in the coming months when the influx of snowbirds come down to The Villages and overtake the area.

That statement appeared wrong to me as I told my neighbor that we should welcome back the snowbirds as they bring money, jobs and excitement to The Villages. Snowbirds are sometimes wealthier than the typical full-time Villager as many snowbirds own more than one home and spend their money here. These snowbirds also pay year-round taxes and Villages fees although many only live here part-time. Also, the rental fee's some snowbirds pay will cover the entire yearly cost of the mortgage payment for some homeowners.

Although I welcome the Snowbirds, my neighbor appeared upset and refused to understand that snowbirds bring prosperity to The Villages and makes The Villages a better place to live year round.

Koapaka 09-28-2021 12:05 PM

Yeah, lets revisit your feelings after you have lived here through a snowbird season.....

JSR22 09-28-2021 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2010171)
As a newbie to The Villages, several of my neighbors have done a great job by providing me with advice on all aspects of living here. Strangely to me, one of my neighbors also warned me to be careful in the coming months when the influx of snowbirds come down to The Villages and overtake the area.

That statement appeared wrong to me as I told my neighbor that we should welcome back the snowbirds as they bring money, jobs and excitement to The Villages. Snowbirds are many times wealthier than the typical full-time Villager as they many times own more than one home and spend their much of their money here. These snowbirds also pay year-round taxes and Villages fees although many only live here part-time. Also, the rental fee's some snowbirds pay will cover the entire yearly cost of the mortgage payment for some homeowners.

Although I welcome the Snowbirds, my neighbor appeared upset and refused to understand that snowbirds bring prosperity to The Villages and makes The Villages a better place to live year round.

I agree with you and welcome the snowbirds. Without them there would be less amenities and shopping choices.

Bjeanj 09-28-2021 01:04 PM

OP, you are correct. However, it becomes harder to find your usual products at the grocery store, there is a higher traffic volume, restaurants become more than packed with long waiting times, and more people become lost, not knowing where the cart lanes are and end up on non-cart roads. It can be challenging.

I have several friends who come down for the winter, and I am always happy to see them again.

vintageogauge 09-28-2021 01:21 PM

We all know that they help the economy and the businesses really are happy to see them but when you add them to the new family housing being built all around TV, apartments in and on the outskirts of TV, lots of new industrial space being built, it's gonna be a long winter.

Kenswing 09-28-2021 01:29 PM

Finally. Our annual Snowbird thread. :MOJE_whot:

I love Snowbirds, for without them this place would be packed year round instead of just for 5 months.

Garywt 09-28-2021 02:02 PM

Don’t forget about us Snowflakes… Bought our house 2 1/2 years ago and have been down maybe 10 weeks. We have no issues paying our taxes and fees. Will be down the last 2 weeks of October and we are so looking forward to it.

Michael G. 09-28-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2010186)
However, it becomes harder to find your usual products at the grocery store, there is a higher traffic volume, restaurants become more than packed with long waiting times,

We are living here full time and are smart about this.
We shop, eat out, travel on off hours.

Love you birds, bring money.......:welcome:

Two Bills 09-28-2021 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2010172)
Yeah, lets revisit your feelings after you have lived here through a snowbird season.....

Would you rather have all the properties full, with the same pressure on facilities throughout the year, which is the alternative?

Penglobal 09-28-2021 03:24 PM

Also remember that most snowbirds can't file for homestead exceptions and they pay real estate taxes proportionally higher than the full time Villager.

On my block, there are two exact homes and valued basically the same. Last year house # 1 owned by a Floridan who took advantage of "save our homes" taxes payed $ 4915 & the exact same home but owned by a fellow mate from Pennsylvania paid $7844 in real estate taxes. The unfortunate thing is the mate from PA only lives here part time.

So once again, thank you snowbirds.

Hape2Bhr 09-28-2021 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2010234)
Also remember that most snowbirds can't file for homestead exceptions and they pay real estate taxes proportionally higher than the full time Villager.

On my block, there are two exact homes and valued basically the same. Last year house # 1 owned by a Floridan who took advantage of "save our homes" taxes payed $ 4915 & the exact same home but owned by a fellow mate from Pennsylvania paid $7844 in real estate taxes. The unfortunate thing is the mate from PA only lives here part time.

So once again, thank you snowbirds.

We rented for a couple of winters, bought in the Spring of 2020.. I plan to become a Florida resident shortly to take advantage of the "homestead" deduction next year. In addition I'll pay less in state income taxes. I will still head north for the summer months.

thelegges 09-28-2021 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2010172)
Yeah, lets revisit your feelings after you have lived here through a snowbird season.....

So you would be very happy if all the snowbirds became full time, and then you could experience high season All Year Long.:1rotfl::1rotfl::clap2: Just because snowbirds own more than one home, doesn’t make them a bad person, they just like different landscape out their windows, and can afford to do so.

I'm Popeye! 09-28-2021 08:56 PM

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msilagy 09-29-2021 04:53 AM

People that complain about snowbirds are A} self centered have it my way types...B} jealous because they have to endure the hot hot summer months or just plain complainers. Friendliest hometown at its finest!

thevillages2013 09-29-2021 05:22 AM

That is a very optimistic outlook newbie. Let’s see how it ages.

MandoMan 09-29-2021 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2010171)
As a newbie to The Villages, several of my neighbors have done a great job by providing me with advice on all aspects of living here. Strangely to me, one of my neighbors also warned me to be careful in the coming months when the influx of snowbirds come down to The Villages and overtake the area.

That statement appeared wrong to me as I told my neighbor that we should welcome back the snowbirds as they bring money, jobs and excitement to The Villages. Snowbirds are sometimes wealthier than the typical full-time Villager as many snowbirds own more than one home and spend their money here. These snowbirds also pay year-round taxes and Villages fees although many only live here part-time. Also, the rental fee's some snowbirds pay will cover the entire yearly cost of the mortgage payment for some homeowners.

Although I welcome the Snowbirds, my neighbor appeared upset and refused to understand that snowbirds bring prosperity to The Villages and makes The Villages a better place to live year round.

Thanks. You are exactly right. There are inconveniences in the winter, but so it goes. It does get a lot harder to get into many restaurants. Golf courses are much more crowded. A few roads are more crowded. I prefer to think of the winter months as the normal part, rather than the abnormal part. I lived near a college town for decades, and we went from about four parking spaces for every car to having to park a block or two away, in a town of 5,000. I enjoyed the quiet summer, but the school year crowding was the real town.

mcwood4d 09-29-2021 05:47 AM

You're welcome 🤗
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2010171)
As a newbie to The Villages, several of my neighbors have done a great job by providing me with advice on all aspects of living here. Strangely to me, one of my neighbors also warned me to be careful in the coming months when the influx of snowbirds come down to The Villages and overtake the area.

That statement appeared wrong to me as I told my neighbor that we should welcome back the snowbirds as they bring money, jobs and excitement to The Villages. Snowbirds are sometimes wealthier than the typical full-time Villager as many snowbirds own more than one home and spend their money here. These snowbirds also pay year-round taxes and Villages fees although many only live here part-time. Also, the rental fee's some snowbirds pay will cover the entire yearly cost of the mortgage payment for some homeowners.

Although I welcome the Snowbirds, my neighbor appeared upset and refused to understand that snowbirds bring prosperity to The Villages and makes The Villages a better place to live year round.

Happy to help out with the (higher) taxes and fees. We'll enjoy our 10 weeks again this season. I'd love to be a frog but... Grandkids ❤️🤗

Lynnesail 09-29-2021 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2010171)
As a newbie to The Villages, several of my neighbors have done a great job by providing me with advice on all aspects of living here. Strangely to me, one of my neighbors also warned me to be careful in the coming months when the influx of snowbirds come down to The Villages and overtake the area.

That statement appeared wrong to me as I told my neighbor that we should welcome back the snowbirds as they bring money, jobs and excitement to The Villages. Snowbirds are sometimes wealthier than the typical full-time Villager as many snowbirds own more than one home and spend their money here. These snowbirds also pay year-round taxes and Villages fees although many only live here part-time. Also, the rental fee's some snowbirds pay will cover the entire yearly cost of the mortgage payment for some homeowners.

Although I welcome the Snowbirds, my neighbor appeared upset and refused to understand that snowbirds bring prosperity to The Villages and makes The Villages a better place to live year round.

Thank you!

Rwirish 09-29-2021 05:54 AM

Oh great, I am know so excited for snowbird season!

Rwirish 09-29-2021 05:57 AM

Enjoy the hot hot summer. Best time oh the year imo. It better be hot, it’s Florida.

thevillages2013 09-29-2021 06:00 AM

Another positive point about snowbird season is they usually knock all the gate arms off so it makes it a lot more convenient for everyone

rlcooper70 09-29-2021 06:03 AM

So nice to hear someone adding positive energy to our little corner of the world. Thank you for that. And of course you are correct in all respects.

joeharing 09-29-2021 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2010194)
Finally. Our annual Snowbird thread. :MOJE_whot:

I love Snowbirds, for without them this place would be packed year round instead of just for 5 months.

Aha......someone has finally got it.!!

Neils 09-29-2021 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2010314)
People that complain about snowbirds are A} self centered have it my way types...B} jealous because they have to endure the hot hot summer months or just plain complainers. Friendliest hometown at its finest!

I enjoy the warm summer months here. Its great to hit the pool every day!!

“Endure” sounds like a snowbird.

VickiF 09-29-2021 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2010209)
We are living here full time and are smart about this.
We shop, eat out, travel on off hours.

Love you birds, bring money.......:welcome:

We’ll be full timers soon too. What are the off hours? I’d like to do the same. Thanks!

Bay Kid 09-29-2021 06:58 AM

Another group of people complaining about me returning to MY home. So what if I'm not there all the time. I pay my expenses on my home ALL year, taxes, amenity fees, yard and home maintenance cost.

butlerism 09-29-2021 07:08 AM

This is the best thread in a while.

Can we create a new club - Dodge ball with snowbirds.

It will be packed.

lmao

MrFlorida 09-29-2021 07:08 AM

Its nice when they come, but better when they leave...

La lamy 09-29-2021 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2010222)
Would you rather have all the properties full, with the same pressure on facilities throughout the year, which is the alternative?

Exactly! The argument that snowbirds bring too much traffic etc... is ridiculous to me. It's the opposite, we lessen traffic for you by leaving our homes for the summer! :ohdear:

Luggage 09-29-2021 07:31 AM

Just imagine what all non-villagers feel when snowbirds arrive.

bp243 09-29-2021 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2010400)
Exactly! The argument that snowbirds bring too much traffic etc... is ridiculous to me. It's the opposite, we lessen traffic for you by leaving our homes for the summer! :ohdear:

Guessing that you have a fresh and positive spin on life in general. How lovely to embrace your post!

Bitsee 09-29-2021 07:50 AM

We have been wintering in The Villages for 14 years now.
Only I prefer to be called a
"Snow Dog" because we travel with our 2 well behaved rescue dogs.
We own a lovely CYV in Springdale and are extremely quiet and well behaved people as well !
We don't drink, smoke , or flood the neighborhood with visitors when we stay there, that would be rude.
My husband is a licensed handyman that works cheap there for all our neighbors and they simply adore him, as they save all thier projects for his arrival.
And I will babysit our neighbor's pets for them whenever they need to go somewhere, which is quite often.
So in other words our Villages neighbors richly benefit by us being there in the winters as we are not
the bad guy's...believe it or not.
We enjoy the Florida winter weather but will never, ever move permanently from northern Wisconsin which is also referred to as God's Country ....for that is our real home.

Ksfirefighter 09-29-2021 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2010174)
I agree with you and welcome the snowbirds. Without them there would be less amenities and shopping choices.

Yes they pay for amenities all year and we get the benefits.

chasandvalr 09-29-2021 08:06 AM

Pfffff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2010171)
As a newbie to The Villages, several of my neighbors have done a great job by providing me with advice on all aspects of living here. Strangely to me, one of my neighbors also warned me to be careful in the coming months when the influx of snowbirds come down to The Villages and overtake the area.

That statement appeared wrong to me as I told my neighbor that we should welcome back the snowbirds as they bring money, jobs and excitement to The Villages. Snowbirds are sometimes wealthier than the typical full-time Villager as many snowbirds own more than one home and spend their money here. These snowbirds also pay year-round taxes and Villages fees although many only live here part-time. Also, the rental fee's some snowbirds pay will cover the entire yearly cost of the mortgage payment for some homeowners.

Although I welcome the Snowbirds, my neighbor appeared upset and refused to understand that snowbirds bring prosperity to The Villages and makes The Villages a better place to live year round.

Pfffffff

Dgodin 09-29-2021 08:12 AM

Your neighbor is less concerned about jobs and profits for others and is reacting to how snowbird season affects her personally. Many of us full timers are happy to see our snowbird friends return but dread the transition from a semi sleepy town to a bustling metropolis. An aquaintance refers to snowbirds as cloggers (clog up the roads, restaurants, shops).
In any case it really isn't worth arguing about.

ML Smith 09-29-2021 08:15 AM

Haters gonna hate. Ignore them and just accept the fact that some folks just have to have something to complain about. It’s all good so enjoy the seasons and relax. Life is too important to be taken too seriously.

Bilyclub 09-29-2021 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2010234)
Also remember that most snowbirds can't file for homestead exceptions and they pay real estate taxes proportionally higher than the full time Villager.

On my block, there are two exact homes and valued basically the same. Last year house # 1 owned by a Floridan who took advantage of "save our homes" taxes payed $ 4915 & the exact same home but owned by a fellow mate from Pennsylvania paid $7844 in real estate taxes. The unfortunate thing is the mate from PA only lives here part time.

So once again, thank you snowbirds.


I haven't seen my neighbor in 2 years and their house has steadily been rented out. A check of the county site shows they are claiming the Homestead exemption. Who's to say that they aren't double dipping and claiming an exemption where their other home is? Either way, claiming the exemption here seems wrong when they don't live in the house.

Vikingjunior 09-29-2021 08:38 AM

I would love to see how you respond when they start building housing for the illegals in The Villages.

nn0wheremann 09-29-2021 08:54 AM

Just be REALLY CAREFUL IN THE ROUNDABOUTS for the next month, then double that in January when the renters come down. If you use AT&T for cell service, get used to a couple of hours for voicemail to show up, and don’t mind the dropped calls. But you are right, the snowflakes and snowbirds are an asset to our community.

ML Smith 09-29-2021 09:34 AM

Get over yourself.


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