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MDLNB 10-15-2021 07:39 AM

Walgreens mistakenly injected two kids with the Covid-19 vaccine instead of flu shot
 
Walgreens mistakenly injected parents and two kids age 4 and 5 with the Covid vaccine instead of the flu shot and now they are being treated for tachycardia and elevated blood pressure.

""They will probably do OK," said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. "The difference is they got a three times higher dose of a vaccine than is being tested in clinical trials."
The children have reportedly been suffering other side effects for over a week after receiving their shots.



Indiana parents say Walgreens mistakenly injected them and their two kids with the Covid-19 vaccine instead of flu shot - CNN

billethkid 10-15-2021 08:34 AM

I am curious about the "rest of the story" regarding how this did or could happen.

There are steps in the procedure/process where one is asked/notified what they are receiving.

It must have been a total disconnect between pre vax documentation/post vax receipt and physically grabbed the wrong hypodermics.

Still begs the question of verification effectiveness.

RICH1 10-15-2021 09:10 AM

another Scam to get money !

Stu from NYC 10-15-2021 10:28 AM

Wow hope the kids come out of it ok and whoever did it finds a new job as a basket weaver.

MDLNB 10-15-2021 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2017732)
another Scam to get money !


The way I read it is that the Pharmacy CALLED the parents to let them know that they had received the wrong vaccine. Don't know how that would be a scam unless the employee was in on it.

MDLNB 10-15-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2017712)
I am curious about the "rest of the story" regarding how this did or could happen.

There are steps in the procedure/process where one is asked/notified what they are receiving.

It must have been a total disconnect between pre vax documentation/post vax receipt and physically grabbed the wrong hypodermics.

Still begs the question of verification effectiveness.


Right! They only thing I can think of is that they may have been slammed with customers and short of employees. Not an excuse, but might half way explain such a dangerous mistake.

I don't know anything about the flu shot, but that might explain how they got THREE times the amount of serum.

On top of the fact that their toddlers got three times the normal amount of vaccine, the parents had already been vaccinated for Covid. Guess they won't need a booster for a while.

golfing eagles 10-15-2021 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2017680)
Walgreens mistakenly injected parents and two kids age 4 and 5 with the Covid vaccine instead of the flu shot and now they are being treated for tachycardia and elevated blood pressure.

""They will probably do OK," said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. "The difference is they got a three times higher dose of a vaccine than is being tested in clinical trials."
The children have reportedly been suffering other side effects for over a week after receiving their shots.



Indiana parents say Walgreens mistakenly injected them and their two kids with the Covid-19 vaccine instead of flu shot - CNN

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2017732)
another Scam to get money !

I wouldn't call it a scam---after all, I doubt this family came in to the drugstore to get the wrong shots on purpose. Clearly the pharmacist made a mistake, and a pretty big/avoidable one. If they were drawing the shot out of the vial, all they needed to do was read the label, so I doubt that was the case. More likely, based on their daily volume, the pharmacist had drawn up a number of syringes of both vaccines to "save time". We did this every year since we gave out 12-1400 flu shots on our 3 Saturday flu shot days----but we only had ONE vaccine drawn up. If they did this for more than one, a mistake could be made.

OK, so what's done is done, but now the interesting part:

The "symptoms" that were listed for this family as a result of the COVID vaccine, BY THEIR LAWYER can all be attributed to anxiety (except fever, which is common after many vaccines), and may not even be vaccine related. But we all know where this is headed. (Not a courtroom since dumb jurors would give a huge award, but a juicy settlement for sure). And the happiest person is the lawyer collecting 40% for a winning case that fell into his lap.

I'm also sure the settlement will include a codicil that still includes the right for the 2 children to sue for "malpractice" up to the legal limit of 30 months after their 18th birthday. I see a lot of sleepless nights for that pharmacist

MDLNB 10-15-2021 02:55 PM

I am more concerned about the health issue with the children (and the parents if they got another full dose of the vaccine) than the legal issues. According the article, Walgreens contacted the parents to inform them. I am really glad that they did that, in case something serious happens. I agree that there will be some sleepless nights for someone involved in that disaster.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-15-2021 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2017761)
Right! They only thing I can think of is that they may have been slammed with customers and short of employees. Not an excuse, but might half way explain such a dangerous mistake.

I don't know anything about the flu shot, but that might explain how they got THREE times the amount of serum.

On top of the fact that their toddlers got three times the normal amount of vaccine, the parents had already been vaccinated for Covid. Guess they won't need a booster for a while.

They weren't toddlers, they were 4 and 5 years old. That's pre-k and kindergarten age.

The "three times the amount" is comparative. They received the adult dose. There is no appropriate dose for 4-5 year old kids, at the moment.

Luggage 10-16-2021 04:47 AM

And I would really wonder why parents would not be with children at a pharmacy? By federal law I pretty much understand there is no legal obligation of side effects to be sued for.

frank1975 10-16-2021 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2017760)
The way I read it is that the Pharmacy CALLED the parents to let them know that they had received the wrong vaccine. Don't know how that would be a scam unless the employee was in on it.

No scam here but I do smell law suite!!!!

GeriS 10-16-2021 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2017712)
I am curious about the "rest of the story" regarding how this did or could happen.

There are steps in the procedure/process where one is asked/notified what they are receiving.

It must have been a total disconnect between pre vax documentation/post vax receipt and physically grabbed the wrong hypodermics.

Still begs the question of verification effectiveness.

Not the first time this happen. I read about a woman a couple of weeks ago who had the same thing happen.

GeriS 10-16-2021 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2017757)
Wow hope the kids come out of it ok and whoever did it finds a new job as a basket weaver.

Worse than that needs to happen to the person who did this. The adverse reactions people are getting is more than an accident.

GeriS 10-16-2021 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2017761)
Right! They only thing I can think of is that they may have been slammed with customers and short of employees. Not an excuse, but might half way explain such a dangerous mistake.

I don't know anything about the flu shot, but that might explain how they got THREE times the amount of serum.

On top of the fact that their toddlers got three times the normal amount of vaccine, the parents had already been vaccinated for Covid. Guess they won't need a booster for a while.

So if a doctor cut off your arm by accident because he was slammed is that an excuse?

theorem painter 10-16-2021 06:19 AM

This happened to a friend of mine at Walgreens in Pinnellas. She had her covid shot and booster. Went to Walgreens to get flu shot and filled out all the paperwork with her husband. After they both got the shot the technician asked them for their cards. What cards? The vaccine cards so I can mark your covid boosters. Needless to say, the **** hit the fan. Lesson learned, always double-check before they give you the shot.

La lamy 10-16-2021 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2017680)
Walgreens mistakenly injected parents and two kids age 4 and 5 with the Covid vaccine instead of the flu shot and now they are being treated for tachycardia and elevated blood pressure.

""They will probably do OK," said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. "The difference is they got a three times higher dose of a vaccine than is being tested in clinical trials."
The children have reportedly been suffering other side effects for over a week after receiving their shots.



Indiana parents say Walgreens mistakenly injected them and their two kids with the Covid-19 vaccine instead of flu shot - CNN

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :ohdear:

golfing eagles 10-16-2021 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 2017959)
Worse than that needs to happen to the person who did this. The adverse reactions people are getting is more than an accident.

Please explain.

OhioBuckeye 10-16-2021 07:16 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2017680)
Walgreens mistakenly injected parents and two kids age 4 and 5 with the Covid vaccine instead of the flu shot and now they are being treated for tachycardia and elevated blood pressure.

""They will probably do OK," said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. "The difference is they got a three times higher dose of a vaccine than is being tested in clinical trials."
The children have reportedly been suffering other side effects for over a week after receiving their shots.



Indiana parents say Walgreens mistakenly injected them and their two kids with the Covid-19 vaccine instead of flu shot - CNN

Ouch, not good!

Eg_cruz 10-16-2021 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2017680)
Walgreens mistakenly injected parents and two kids age 4 and 5 with the Covid vaccine instead of the flu shot and now they are being treated for tachycardia and elevated blood pressure.

""They will probably do OK," said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. "The difference is they got a three times higher dose of a vaccine than is being tested in clinical trials."
The children have reportedly been suffering other side effects for over a week after receiving their shots.



Indiana parents say Walgreens mistakenly injected them and their two kids with the Covid-19 vaccine instead of flu shot - CNN

I have said from the beginning of all this madness
Stop pushing this crap on the young ones and this is exactly why
My grandson has POTs and it is hard on him, I feel bad what these two babies have facing them.

Eg_cruz 10-16-2021 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2017732)
another Scam to get money !

So they babies now have a heart condition and you opinionated self is making uncalled for statements…..smh

Eg_cruz 10-16-2021 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2017923)
And I would really wonder why parents would not be with children at a pharmacy? By federal law I pretty much understand there is no legal obligation of side effects to be sued for.

Smh……..the parents were with them all 4 got the wrong shot, second when they sue it because they were GIVEN THE WRONG SHOT and now they have side effects.

Jerseyborn 10-16-2021 07:31 AM

[QUOTE=MDLNB;2017680]Walgreens mistakenly injected parents and two kids age 4 and 5 with the Covid vaccine instead of the flu shot and now they are being treated for tachycardia and elevated blood pressure.

""They will probably do OK," said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. "The difference is they got a three times higher dose of a vaccine than is being tested in clinical trials."
The children have reportedly been suffering other side effects for over a week after receiving their shots.



As a retired nurse, I couldn’t imagine this ever happening as the usual practice is drawing up the medicine right before injection. Having just received our flu shots, I noticed they were already drawn up and in a ziplock with our names on them. This practice frees up the pharmacist to go back to filling other prescriptions but opens the door to errors as described here.

MDLNB 10-16-2021 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 2017960)
So if a doctor cut off your arm by accident because he was slammed is that an excuse?


I apologize that you could not comprehend my comment. "Not an excuse, but might half way explain such a dangerous mistake."

Bonnevie 10-16-2021 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2017996)
I apologize that you could not comprehend my comment. "Not an excuse, but might half way explain such a dangerous mistake."

as a retired pharmacist, this is our worst nightmare. from my observation, when you go for a shot, a technician enters it as a prescription. so it may be the label generated was for the wrong item and the pharmacist failed to verify....or the wrong item was put out for the pharmacist. any way it happened, it was a mistake.

when pharmacists were given the added responsibility of doing vaccines, I was aghast. having worked in retail, it is a nightmare at times. dr's. offices calling in, patients yelling at you because you can't fill something because you are waiting for the insurance company or the doctor's ofc. to give authorization, people wondering why it takes so long to take "pills from the big bottle and put them into the little bottle", people who have no refills screaming at you that you must give them a refill because they have to "be on this for life" and if you explain you need a new order then they say "well, I guess I'll just die then". so you give them enough until the dr.s office opens, people who want early refills, controlled substance problems, all those distractions constantly while you are trying to fill prescriptions lawfully while watching for drug interactions. then they added vaccine administration, most probably without adding more staff. so constant interruptions but the stress of never making a mistake.

chain retail stores like Walgreens and CVS have lobbied the legislature to increase the number of technicians one pharmacist is able to monitor. lobbyists for the chains have opposed measures such as limiting work hours and providing bathroom and meal breaks. They have quotas of prescriptions to fill.

I could never had an over 30 year career in pharmacy if all of it was in retail pharmacy. I lasted 2 years. 12 hour days, no breaks, if I had to use the bathroom I literally ran to it and ran back... I ate behind the counter. typical was the day I had sat down to each lunch, customer comes up with about 8 vials for refills, says, "oh lunch time--I'll be back in 20 minutes".

all of which is to not excuse making a mistake. as I said, it was all our worst nightmares. I guarantee you that pharmacist is feeling terrible. but piling on more work with no more people is a recipe for mistakes.

If you say, well you knew the job...not true. in pharmacy school you are taught the lofty role of patient counseling, drug interactions, etc. it doesn't prepare you for retail pharmacy. A pharmacist in Ireland described the job best. He said he considers his job "anger management".

sorry for the length...just wanted to give you a perspective on what you don't see and how this might have happened.

tvbound 10-16-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 2018035)
as a retired pharmacist, this is our worst nightmare. from my observation, when you go for a shot, a technician enters it as a prescription. so it may be the label generated was for the wrong item and the pharmacist failed to verify....or the wrong item was put out for the pharmacist. any way it happened, it was a mistake.

when pharmacists were given the added responsibility of doing vaccines, I was aghast. having worked in retail, it is a nightmare at times. dr's. offices calling in, patients yelling at you because you can't fill something because you are waiting for the insurance company or the doctor's ofc. to give authorization, people wondering why it takes so long to take "pills from the big bottle and put them into the little bottle", people who have no refills screaming at you that you must give them a refill because they have to "be on this for life" and if you explain you need a new order then they say "well, I guess I'll just die then". so you give them enough until the dr.s office opens, people who want early refills, controlled substance problems, all those distractions constantly while you are trying to fill prescriptions lawfully while watching for drug interactions. then they added vaccine administration, most probably without adding more staff. so constant interruptions but the stress of never making a mistake.

chain retail stores like Walgreens and CVS have lobbied the legislature to increase the number of technicians one pharmacist is able to monitor. lobbyists for the chains have opposed measures such as limiting work hours and providing bathroom and meal breaks. They have quotas of prescriptions to fill.

I could never had an over 30 year career in pharmacy if all of it was in retail pharmacy. I lasted 2 years. 12 hour days, no breaks, if I had to use the bathroom I literally ran to it and ran back... I ate behind the counter. typical was the day I had sat down to each lunch, customer comes up with about 8 vials for refills, says, "oh lunch time--I'll be back in 20 minutes".

all of which is to not excuse making a mistake. as I said, it was all our worst nightmares. I guarantee you that pharmacist is feeling terrible. but piling on more work with no more people is a recipe for mistakes.

If you say, well you knew the job...not true. in pharmacy school you are taught the lofty role of patient counseling, drug interactions, etc. it doesn't prepare you for retail pharmacy. A pharmacist in Ireland described the job best. He said he considers his job "anger management".

sorry for the length...just wanted to give you a perspective on what you don't see and how this might have happened.

Working under those conditions and pressure, it's probably amazing that more mistakes aren't made and is a testament to the skill and professionalism of pharmacists like yourself. I'm also glad to hear that this pretty big screw-up, won't have a worse outcome for those poor kids.

coffeebean 10-16-2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2017837)
I am more concerned about the health issue with the children (and the parents if they got another full dose of the vaccine) than the legal issues. According the article, Walgreens contacted the parents to inform them. I am really glad that they did that, in case something serious happens. I agree that there will be some sleepless nights for someone involved in that disaster.

I wouldn't be too concerned for the adults. There have been lots of people who have received full dose Moderna third shots. I won't call them "boosters' because that is not what they are. Moderna has received emergency approval for booster injections which are one half the dosage of the original first two vaccine injections.Certain criteria apply for those to be eligible for the booster shots.

Djean1981 10-16-2021 12:01 PM

Perhaps, the pharmacy realized the accident after the fact (after the family had left).

kenoc7 10-16-2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2017712)
I am curious about the "rest of the story" regarding how this did or could happen.

There are steps in the procedure/process where one is asked/notified what they are receiving.

It must have been a total disconnect between pre vax documentation/post vax receipt and physically grabbed the wrong hypodermics.

Still begs the question of verification effectiveness.

Truth or fiction?????

Escape Artist 10-16-2021 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2017874)
They weren't toddlers, they were 4 and 5 years old. That's pre-k and kindergarten age.

The "three times the amount" is comparative. They received the adult dose. There is no appropriate dose for 4-5 year old kids, at the moment.

Wow, don't go overboard on the empathy for the children! :rolleyes:

The Caretaker 10-16-2021 05:03 PM

I would own Walgreens!!!!!

golfing eagles 10-16-2021 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Caretaker (Post 2018200)
I would own Walgreens!!!!!

Very much doubt it. The plaintiffs will have to show damages, and based on the symptoms listed BY THEIR LAWYER, they don't have much at all. In fact, a good defense attorney will be able to attribute all their "side effects" to anxiety, or at least plant that idea in the jury's mind.

Djean1981 10-16-2021 05:34 PM

I hope the kids are ok. The shot wiped me out with severe body aches for a few days. So, I can't imagine getting a much larger dose.

golfing eagles 10-16-2021 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Djean1981 (Post 2018208)
I hope the kids are ok. The shot wiped me out with severe body aches for a few days. So, I can't imagine getting a much larger dose.

That would entirely depend on whether that effect was idiosyncratic or dose related

Luggage 10-17-2021 06:29 AM

Not that I know of but I do know of several cases where the wrong knee was operated on or hip for an implant, which is why most doctors put a big x where they're going to operate on for these types of surgeries beforehand when you're awake

Luggage 10-17-2021 06:31 AM

Consider this
 
There have probably been about 500 million shots given in America. I am surprised there have not been more than these two mistakes. My wife went just for a test several weeks ago and yes the lady behind the counter window was slammed doing this for 8 hours straight and yes I can see how a mistake can easily happen. I don't really know what the point was in even writing about this as probably getting hit by a car is a much higher percentage of happening as an accident

DBChris 10-17-2021 06:46 AM

I hate to state the obvious, but who gives flu shots to four and five year olds? My grandkids have never had a flu shot. The kids shouldn't even be in this equation.

blueash 10-17-2021 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DBChris (Post 2018269)
I hate to state the obvious, but who gives flu shots to four and five year olds? My grandkids have never had a flu shot. The kids shouldn't even be in this equation.

I hate to state the obvious, but you don't know what you are writing about. Influenza vaccine has been recommended for ALL CHILDREN over 6 months of age for over a decade. And for those 6 to 24 months for two decades.

If you have any actual interest in understanding this recommendation read about it from the American Academy of Pediatrics

A clear definitive statement from the CDC

"Everyone 6 months of age and older should get an influenza (flu) vaccine every season with rare exception. "

terrild53 10-17-2021 09:04 AM

For the life of me, why would parents not take their children to their Pediatrician for vaccination? Pharmacies are slammed everywhere giving hundreds of Covid vaccinations every day. It’s a recipe for error.

golfing eagles 10-17-2021 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2018327)
I hate to state the obvious, but you don't know what you are writing about. Influenza vaccine has been recommended for ALL CHILDREN over 6 months of age for over a decade. And for those 6 to 24 months for two decades.

If you have any actual interest in understanding this recommendation read about it from the American Academy of Pediatrics

A clear definitive statement from the CDC

"Everyone 6 months of age and older should get an influenza (flu) vaccine every season with rare exception. "

Thank you---I hate being the only one setting people straight

Eg_cruz 10-17-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2018210)
That would entirely depend on whether that effect was idiosyncratic or dose related

Smdh……..you think a 4 yr can image up a heart system.
Every one of your post is always the Covid-19 shot can do no harm.
I ready like the one where you said long Covid wasn’t real……
Now you write that a 4 and 5 yr can make up side effects ………smdh


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