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JohnN 10-17-2021 11:12 AM

I FIXED THE DOOR !!! - re: Concrete buckled, lanai door won't open easily
 
First, thanks to everyone who posted. The tips made me think.

My initial approach was to a) tell my wife to live with the lania door not closing. That didn't work. b) tell her to "call the guy", that didn't work either! c) I didn't even try to say "you fix it" - though she did help a lot in holding the door while I removed the hinge screws.

So, adjusting the door seemed like the best first approach, compared to grinding concrete. I took the door off and the bottom of it was a lightweight aluminum rail, not really a sweep.

I didn't have a grinding disc/wheel, so.. I took my handy little sledgehammer and gave the bottom of the aluminum a few whacks. Then I put the door back up and VOILA, it worked fine - fingers crossed.

As far as the buckled concrete, it's the patio slab away from the house foundation, so it is what it is. Like someone posted, a low grade concrete composite and it'll have to do for now.

I'm glad it worked, and thankful for the tips that made me think and work it through. TOTV is the best! Be safe out there, it's a strange world.

retiredguy123 10-17-2021 11:28 AM

Very good, but I won't be calling you to help fix my door with a sledgehammer.

tophcfa 10-17-2021 11:51 AM

I love it, when in doubt, whack it with a sledgehammer. What can’t be fixed with a sawzall, sledgehammer, duct tape, velcro, bungee cords, gorilla glue, and zip ties?

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-17-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2018399)
I love it, when in doubt, whack it with a sledgehammer. What can’t be fixed with a sawzall, sledgehammer, duct tape, velcro, bungee cords, gorilla glue, and zip ties?

If it's a technology item, you need a paper clip.

JohnN 10-17-2021 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2018395)
Very good, but I won't be calling you to help fix my door with a sledgehammer.

Well, it was a means to an end and it all worked out.
As I said to my wife - "you get what you pay for" LOL

JohnN 10-17-2021 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2018399)
I love it, when in doubt, whack it with a sledgehammer. What can’t be fixed with a sawzall, sledgehammer, duct tape, velcro, bungee cords, gorilla glue, and zip ties?

Bingo , 2 rules -
1 - If it's stuck, use WD40
2 - If it's loose, use Duct Tape

DaleDivine 10-18-2021 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2018395)
Very good, but I won't be calling you to help fix my door with a sledgehammer.

When all else fails get a bigger hammer...
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Luggage 10-18-2021 04:47 AM

Since my early teenage years I've been known as the duct tape guy when I first used it on my bicycle

Petersweeney 10-18-2021 06:24 AM

Sleghammer ? Hope you don’t own a plane….

butlerism 10-18-2021 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2018392)
First, thanks to everyone who posted. The tips made me think.

My initial approach was to a) tell my wife to live with the lania door not closing. That didn't work. b) tell her to "call the guy", that didn't work either! c) I didn't even try to say "you fix it" - though she did help a lot in holding the door while I removed the hinge screws.

So, adjusting the door seemed like the best first approach, compared to grinding concrete. I took the door off and the bottom of it was a lightweight aluminum rail, not really a sweep.

I didn't have a grinding disc/wheel, so.. I took my handy little sledgehammer and gave the bottom of the aluminum a few whacks. Then I put the door back up and VOILA, it worked fine - fingers crossed.

As far as the buckled concrete, it's the patio slab away from the house foundation, so it is what it is. Like someone posted, a low grade concrete composite and it'll have to do for now.

I'm glad it worked, and thankful for the tips that made me think and work it through. TOTV is the best! Be safe out there, it's a strange world.

That was me.
With the source of Buckling.
Usually due to trees.

Smacking the Coquina with a lump hammer, brilliant.
I will bet it for the most part just crumbled.

Best recommendation as well... keep an eye on the trees. Here in SS the OAKS are enormous, ugly and shoot a million roots everywhere. Trying to stop one root led to stopping probably 30 roots going to the house. After removal of the Oak, I dug a trench out in the lawn and used a sawzall to completely remove 6" of each root moving towards the house. Tree and root problem solved.

Pay close attention to any lifting of the walkways, this is a retirement community and we do not want to see people tripping at our front door.

For an interesting read, look up the construction of Castillo De San Marcos in St Augustine. People were critical about making a Fortification out of Coquina and it would never hold up. Not the case, Cannon Balls would just stick in the Coquina.

butlerism 10-18-2021 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2018540)
Since my early teenage years I've been known as the duct tape guy when I first used it on my bicycle

LMAO.

In the navy, Duct tape was a blessing. One guy dropped his coffee mug. It broke, but soon back after using duct tape.

NoMo50 10-18-2021 07:00 AM

When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

richdell 10-18-2021 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2018620)
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

Or a lanai door. :coolsmiley:

tophcfa 10-18-2021 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2018540)
Since my early teenage years I've been known as the duct tape guy when I first used it on my bicycle

My first car was a yellow VW Bug when I bought it. By the time I got rid of it, it was duct tape silver.

Scorpyo 10-18-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2018395)
Very good, but I won't be calling you to help fix my door with a sledgehammer.

Don't be so quick to make a final judgement about the hammer. A couple of months ago I would have agreed with you but something changed recently.
My Whirlpool washer was not working properly. Luckily it is still under 2nd year Costco warranty. Anyway, they sent an appliance repairman to my house. Being the comedian I thought I was when the repairman showed up I told him I had a handheld sledgehammer ready for him.
He thanked me and told me he didn't need it as he had his own. I chuckled, thinking that was a good humorous response. He started taking the washer apart and low and behold he took out his handheld sledgehammer. It appears that there is a large connector that connects the gearcase to the tub. He used the hammer to loosen and later tighten the connector. Who would have imagined (not me) that you would use a sledgehammer on a device that contains water and has electrical and electronic components.
So I guess the moral of the story is don't be so quick to overlook that sledgehammer. I am, however, glad my ophthalmologist didn't use one when he took out my cataracts. :1rotfl:

DStahulK 10-18-2021 10:50 AM

Fixed the door!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2018392)
First, thanks to everyone who posted. The tips made me think.

My initial approach was to a) tell my wife to live with the lania door not closing. That didn't work. b) tell her to "call the guy", that didn't work either! c) I didn't even try to say "you fix it" - though she did help a lot in holding the door while I removed the hinge screws.

So, adjusting the door seemed like the best first approach, compared to grinding concrete. I took the door off and the bottom of it was a lightweight aluminum rail, not really a sweep.

I didn't have a grinding disc/wheel, so.. I took my handy little sledgehammer and gave the bottom of the aluminum a few whacks. Then I put the door back up and VOILA, it worked fine - fingers crossed.

As far as the buckled concrete, it's the patio slab away from the house foundation, so it is what it is. Like someone posted, a low grade concrete composite and it'll have to do for now.

I'm glad it worked, and thankful for the tips that made me think and work it through. TOTV is the best! Be safe out there, it's a strange world.



Hammer to fit, paint to match!

dougawhite 10-18-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2018392)
I took my handy little sledgehammer and gave the bottom of the aluminum a few whacks.

I had to laugh, when I was an young electrical engineering student taking a class in some high-tech subject with a distinguished engineering professor. We were to watch a video tape on some topic and the professor could not get the video to work. After many attempts failed he finally called in the dept technician whose job was to keep all the lab equipment working. Well, as the class watched, he looked over the video setup for a few seconds then gave a solid WHACK to the side of the television monitor. It immediately started working and the class gave him a standing ovation! He looked at us all, future technical leaders of the world, with a somewhat dubious expression, and silently left the classroom. It was an experience, and a lesson, I kept with me throughout my career. Never look down upon the technicians or those who work with their hands, for they possess a level of magic and creativity that us 'educated' individuals will probably never understand.

Michael G. 10-18-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2018470)
Well, it was a means to an end and it all worked out.
As I said to my wife - "you get what you pay for" LOL


So see divorced you and ran away with the pool kid...........LOL

mulligan 10-18-2021 11:34 AM

FYI.... The bottom of the door has a channel with a rubber sweep attached that is held on with 3 or 4 screws that penetrate not with holes, but an angled slot that raises and lowers the height of the channel. ALSO, the slabs are not a "cheap composite" . They are a mix called "fibercrete". Excellent material for preventing cracks.

Scorpyo 10-18-2021 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2018399)
I love it, when in doubt, whack it with a sledgehammer. What can’t be fixed with a sawzall, sledgehammer, duct tape, velcro, bungee cords, gorilla glue, and zip ties?

My last marriage! Well at least not with severe consequences. Lol
Freudian slip. “Without”.

Topspinmo 10-18-2021 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2018392)
First, thanks to everyone who posted. The tips made me think.

My initial approach was to a) tell my wife to live with the lania door not closing. That didn't work. b) tell her to "call the guy", that didn't work either! c) I didn't even try to say "you fix it" - though she did help a lot in holding the door while I removed the hinge screws.

So, adjusting the door seemed like the best first approach, compared to grinding concrete. I took the door off and the bottom of it was a lightweight aluminum rail, not really a sweep.




I didn't have a grinding disc/wheel, so.. I took my handy little sledgehammer and gave the bottom of the aluminum a few whacks. Then I put the door back up and VOILA, it worked fine - fingers crossed.

As far as the buckled concrete, it's the patio slab away from the house foundation, so it is what it is. Like someone posted, a low grade concrete composite and it'll have to do for now.

I'm glad it worked, and thankful for the tips that made me think and work it through. TOTV is the best! Be safe out there, it's a strange world.

IMO Probably should of replaced the rollers while had sliding door off, or at least Cleaned and lubed them.


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