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snram 11-01-2021 08:39 PM

Pleading for help with a hit and run accident
 
Fernandina/Village residents please help! There was a hit and run accident at the corner of Pinellas and Abana on Wednesday night, October 27th. You may know the hit and run driver, he headed down Abana to flee the accident. He drove a white golf cart with a "Bills" license plate on the back of the cart and a Fernandina license plate on the front. Additionally, the front license plate had a license holder that said US Marines. The Marines and Fernandina plates were knocked off his cart, so are no longer there. This was a serious accident with many injuries. So, if you know someone in Fernandina whose cart looks or looked like the one described, please contact the Florida Highway Patrol at *347 or 888-269-8477 and tell them it's for case #89568188. Thank you for your help!

Babubhat 11-02-2021 05:33 AM

Look for houses in that village with a Bills or Marines sign or flag on house. Probably can narrow it down to someone from upstate NY

golfing eagles 11-02-2021 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by snram (Post 2024338)
Fernandina/Village residents please help! There was a hit and run accident at the corner of Pinellas and Abana on Wednesday night, October 27th. You may know the hit and run driver, he headed down Abana to flee the accident. He drove a white golf cart with a "Bills" license plate on the back of the cart and a Fernandina license plate on the front. Additionally, the front license plate had a license holder that said US Marines. The Marines and Fernandina plates were knocked off his cart, so are no longer there. This was a serious accident with many injuries. So, if you know someone in Fernandina whose cart looks or looked like the one described, please contact the Florida Highway Patrol at *347 or 888-269-8477 and tell them it's for case #89568188. Thank you for your help!

It would be a sad state of affairs if this hit and run driver was truly a former U. S. Marine---what ever happened to integrity?

Caymus 11-02-2021 07:16 AM

Are traffic accidents with carts treated the same as for cars?

Bay Kid 11-02-2021 07:22 AM

They had probably been drinking and panicked. So sad for all.

Koapaka 11-02-2021 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snram (Post 2024338)
Fernandina/Village residents please help! There was a hit and run accident at the corner of Pinellas and Abana on Wednesday night, October 27th. You may know the hit and run driver, he headed down Abana to flee the accident. He drove a white golf cart with a "Bills" license plate on the back of the cart and a Fernandina license plate on the front. Additionally, the front license plate had a license holder that said US Marines. The Marines and Fernandina plates were knocked off his cart, so are no longer there. This was a serious accident with many injuries. So, if you know someone in Fernandina whose cart looks or looked like the one described, please contact the Florida Highway Patrol at *347 or 888-269-8477 and tell them it's for case #89568188. Thank you for your help!

Is there any other damage you might be able to describe other than the license plate holder and plate missing?? Might be helpful if you could even begin to tell those keeping a watchful eye out what to look for.

DeanFL 11-02-2021 07:53 AM

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I'd hope to think that friends/neighbors know of this cart, with its specific color and plates I.D.d. Was this incident in the paper or such? First time I've heard... What were the damages/injuries etc?
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Mortal1 11-02-2021 08:28 AM

It would seem that if you are a former Marine...
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2024418)
It would be a sad state of affairs if this hit and run driver was truly a former U. S. Marine---what ever happened to integrity?

old age doesn't effect your judgement. Being a former jarhead doesn't mean that good judgement and duty don't effectively disappear with age. Since there are many titles that are highly respected that make foolish decisions as age overtakes common sense and decency it is beneath someone who uses that to disparage someone else.

dewilson58 11-02-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2024418)
It would be a sad state of affairs if this hit and run driver was truly a former U. S. Marine---what ever happened to integrity?

Maybe a spouse. :shrug:

Mortal1 11-02-2021 08:33 AM

"probably been drinking" is ...
 
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2024481)
They had probably been drinking and panicked. So sad for all.

putting forth a reason based on zero facts. Could have missed their meds, fell down and had a concussion, wife/husband just died, got old and didn't pay attention....the list of possible reasons goes on and on.

Don't fall for the quick and easy conclusion to jump to. Await the facts. Innocent till proven guilty.

DAVES 11-02-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2024475)
Are traffic accidents with carts treated the same as for cars?

Law? Truth is I don't know but I guess like a car, if you lend someone your car or even if it is stolen, the owner of the car, even though they are not the driver is responsible for damages.

AJ32162 11-02-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2024513)
Law? Truth is I don't know but I guess like a car, if you lend someone your car or even if it is stolen, the owner of the car, even though they are not the driver is responsible for damages.

Oh really?

What is my liability when my car was stolen and involved in a hit-and-run accident? | FreeAdvice

charlieo1126@gmail.com 11-02-2021 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2024418)
It would be a sad state of affairs if this hit and run driver was truly a former U. S. Marine---what ever happened to integrity?

do you actually think everyone that comes out of service is a good guy , lots of guys in my neighborhood going back to ww2 went into combat some were bad guys before and many became bad guys after. My father had a friend Elmer Trigger Burke went from. Reform school to army at start of WW2 he became an Army ranger fighting in Italy and winning silver star on D Day going up the cliffs he was a hardened killer with many mob hits and bar fights went to the electric chair in the late 50’s in 40 years around the worlds hot spots I ran into a lot of guys who were hero’s and also bad guys, that served under different flags and continued being bad guys later in life , doing something heroic in combat doesn’t qualify you for sainthood

walterray1 11-02-2021 09:58 AM

Any update on this post?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by snram (Post 2024338)
Fernandina/Village residents please help! There was a hit and run accident at the corner of Pinellas and Abana on Wednesday night, October 27th. You may know the hit and run driver, he headed down Abana to flee the accident. He drove a white golf cart with a "Bills" license plate on the back of the cart and a Fernandina license plate on the front. Additionally, the front license plate had a license holder that said US Marines. The Marines and Fernandina plates were knocked off his cart, so are no longer there. This was a serious accident with many injuries. So, if you know someone in Fernandina whose cart looks or looked like the one described, please contact the Florida Highway Patrol at *347 or 888-269-8477 and tell them it's for case #89568188. Thank you for your help!

Curious why there has not been any mention about this "serious accident with many injuries" anywhere else. Did the OP witness the accident? Sounds like they did based on the details provided. Inquiring minds...

golfing eagles 11-02-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2024534)
do you actually think everyone that comes out of service is a good guy , lots of guys in my neighborhood going back to ww2 went into combat some were bad guys before and many became bad guys after. My father had a friend Elmer Trigger Burke went from. Reform school to army at start of WW2 he became an Army ranger fighting in Italy and winning silver star on D Day going up the cliffs he was a hardened killer with many mob hits and bar fights went to the electric chair in the late 50’s in 40 years around the worlds hot spots I ran into a lot of guys who were hero’s and also bad guys, that served under different flags and continued being bad guys later in life , doing something heroic in combat doesn’t qualify you for sainthood

It would be nice if that were the case, but sadly, you're right. As to the other person who quoted my post, WTF are you talking about????

asianthree 11-02-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2024418)
It would be a sad state of affairs if this hit and run driver was truly a former U. S. Marine---what ever happened to integrity?

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2024475)
Are traffic accidents with carts treated the same as for cars?

When a cart is involved with another cart, car, stand alone, or property, the Sheriff who arrives at the scene, notifies Florida Highway Patrol, who then takes over.

Our property was damaged at 3am by a 43yo just retired Marine, driving a cart, that was not owned by him. FHP arrested him, insurance from the owner of the cart, paid for damages.

Carts are considered a moving vehicle.

So golfing eagle, just because he gave 23 years of service to his country, and ended up on our lawn, doesn’t mean he made good decisions later.

DAVES 11-02-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ32162 (Post 2024533)

Law and reality are two different things. As far as a thief. You can bet they will go after he one they have. The car owner. May you never need to find out.

Read post #16.

Topspinmo 11-02-2021 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2024509)
Maybe a spouse. :shrug:

Or family caretaker?

Two Bills 11-03-2021 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2024678)
Or family caretaker?

....or God forbid, a Snowbird!

thevillages2013 11-03-2021 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2024490)
Is there any other damage you might be able to describe other than the license plate holder and plate missing?? Might be helpful if you could even begin to tell those keeping a watchful eye out what to look for.

I don’t think he stopped for pictures or anything. IT WAS A HIT AND RUN. Assume front end damage on a white cart in Fernandina

Two Bills 11-03-2021 05:21 AM

Put an advert/letter in TV Sun newspaper.
Will get a bigger viewing than on here.
Check golf cart service and repair shops for white carts with front end damage, which I imaging the FHP are doing anyway.

crash 11-03-2021 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2024511)
putting forth a reason based on zero facts. Could have missed their meds, fell down and had a concussion, wife/husband just died, got old and didn't pay attention....the list of possible reasons goes on and on.

Don't fall for the quick and easy conclusion to jump to. Await the facts. Innocent till proven guilty.

If any of this was true he would not have fled the fleeing makes him guilty so he could of been innocent until he fled.

PugMom 11-03-2021 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2024716)
....or God forbid, a Snowbird!

'GASP!' :faint:

La lamy 11-03-2021 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2024588)
It would be nice if that were the case, but sadly, you're right. As to the other person who quoted my post, WTF are you talking about????

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golfing eagles 11-03-2021 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2024418)
It would be a sad state of affairs if this hit and run driver was truly a former U. S. Marine---what ever happened to integrity?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2024507)
old age doesn't effect your judgement. Being a former jarhead doesn't mean that good judgement and duty don't effectively disappear with age. Since there are many titles that are highly respected that make foolish decisions as age overtakes common sense and decency it is beneath someone who uses that to disparage someone else.

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2024749)
I can't see who else has quoted you before this, so I bet their name starts with d as he is on my "ignore list". I'd recommend you do the same!

Here's the applicable posts, see if you can make sense of it. And once again I have to apologize to those who posted on this thread for my naivety in thinking that a former U.S. Marine would have the honor and integrity to stop for an accident he caused with injuries. So much for Semper Fi (to those marines on this thread, I am NOT disparaging you, just those that wanted to impugn the integrity of those that were in the Corps. Thank you for your service!)

coffeebean 11-03-2021 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2024513)
Law? Truth is I don't know but I guess like a car, if you lend someone your car or even if it is stolen, the owner of the car, even though they are not the driver is responsible for damages.

The owner of the vehicle is responsible for damages even if the vehicle was stolen? I have no knowledge of law but that just does not seem right to me.

coffeebean 11-03-2021 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2024534)
do you actually think everyone that comes out of service is a good guy , lots of guys in my neighborhood going back to ww2 went into combat some were bad guys before and many became bad guys after. My father had a friend Elmer Trigger Burke went from. Reform school to army at start of WW2 he became an Army ranger fighting in Italy and winning silver star on D Day going up the cliffs he was a hardened killer with many mob hits and bar fights went to the electric chair in the late 50’s in 40 years around the worlds hot spots I ran into a lot of guys who were hero’s and also bad guys, that served under different flags and continued being bad guys later in life , doing something heroic in combat doesn’t qualify you for sainthood

Periods misplaced and run on sentences make your post difficult to comprehend. I REALLY had to pay attention but did get the gist though.

NoMo50 11-03-2021 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2024513)
Law? Truth is I don't know but I guess like a car, if you lend someone your car or even if it is stolen, the owner of the car, even though they are not the driver is responsible for damages.

Absolutely not true. The key language in most, if not all, insurance policies is the word "permission." If someone is operating your vehicle with your permission, they are covered as an insured driver by your policy. No permission = no coverage. By default, a vehicle that is "stolen" has been taken without the permission of the owner.

Topspinmo 11-03-2021 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2024808)
Absolutely not true. The key language in most, if not all, insurance policies is the word "permission." If someone is operating your vehicle with your permission, they are covered as an insured driver by your policy. No permission = no coverage. By default, a vehicle that is "stolen" has been taken without the permission of the owner.

So, you saying I’m wasting my money paying for insurance that don’t cover my vehicle when it no fault of mine. Gee, what Ponzi scheme:shocked:

charlieo1126@gmail.com 11-03-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2024766)
Periods misplaced and run on sentences make your post difficult to comprehend. I REALLY had to pay attention but did get the gist though.

I was writing to fast my bad. Sister Joan would have smacked my hand with ruler.

Indydealmaker 11-03-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2024418)
It would be a sad state of affairs if this hit and run driver was truly a former U. S. Marine---what ever happened to integrity?

More than likely the driver was not the owner of the cart. A wayward son or grandson?

DaleDivine 11-03-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2024815)
So, you saying I’m wasting my money paying for insurance that don’t cover my vehicle when it no fault of mine. Gee, what Ponzi scheme:shocked:

WHATTTT????
:ohdear::ohdear:

BlackhawksFan 11-03-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2024534)
do you actually think everyone that comes out of service is a good guy , lots of guys in my neighborhood going back to ww2 went into combat some were bad guys before and many became bad guys after. My father had a friend Elmer Trigger Burke went from. Reform school to army at start of WW2 he became an Army ranger fighting in Italy and winning silver star on D Day going up the cliffs he was a hardened killer with many mob hits and bar fights went to the electric chair in the late 50’s in 40 years around the worlds hot spots I ran into a lot of guys who were hero’s and also bad guys, that served under different flags and continued being bad guys later in life , doing something heroic in combat doesn’t qualify you for sainthood

Just look at some of the people coming out of today's military and their involvement with shady organizations and criminal activities. Just because someone was in the military doesn't make them an upstanding citizen.

Indydealmaker 11-03-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 2024858)
Just look at some of the people coming out of today's military and their involvement with shady organizations and criminal activities. Just because someone was in the military doesn't make them an upstanding citizen.

For example?

DAVES 11-03-2021 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2024762)
The owner of the vehicle is responsible for damages even if the vehicle was stolen? I have no knowledge of law but that just does not seem right to me.

As I stated right and wrong are not the same as legal.
Read post #16 which is not by me.

Personal experience. Several years ago, my niece was rear ended by an illegal alien driving an uninsured car. There is no question, when you are rear ended the fault is with the driver who hit you-simple. My niece's left arm was severely damaged. There was a good chance it would need to be amputated. She did not lose the arm but it is mostly useless. The illegal alien, who by the way had a child in the car, was bought a new car by her father and was out driving again before my niece was out of the hospital. Medical bills beyond insurance were paid for by my sister.

Fair, legal are not the same.

DAVES 11-03-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2024815)
So, you saying I’m wasting my money paying for insurance that don’t cover my vehicle when it no fault of mine. Gee, what Ponzi scheme:shocked:

As I keep saying right and wrong are not the same a legal.
Far as auto insurance, you are offered and I have paid for uninsured motorist insurance.
You pay a fee so that if you are hit by a guilty party and they not only hit you and damaged you but they are driving without insurance which is illegal.

Other solutions have been tried in the past. You make them a slave, you get to kill them,
you take an eye, a tooth, a son, a daughter, etc etc etc.

DAVES 11-03-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2024873)
For example?

Nothing is perfect and yet we expect, we demand perfection.

Marathon Man 11-03-2021 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2024832)
More than likely the driver was not the owner of the cart. A wayward son or grandson?

Based on what?

Topspinmo 11-03-2021 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2024889)
As I keep saying right and wrong are not the same a legal.
Far as auto insurance, you are offered and I have paid for uninsured motorist insurance.
You pay a fee so that if you are hit by a guilty party and they not only hit you and damaged you but they are driving without insurance which is illegal.

Other solutions have been tried in the past. You make them a slave, you get to kill them,
you take an eye, a tooth, a son, a daughter, etc etc etc.

Yes it’s called insurance.

Another way to suck money out of insurers making them pay for people who don’t have insurance. Lobbyist in action. I pay insurance for the insurance company to cover me not for somebody that don’t have insurance. But, we are pigeon’s at lobbyist tactic’s.

Two Bills 11-03-2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by walterray1 (Post 2024919)
this thread has really taken on a different direction from the original post. I am still trying to understand/believe what it was really trying to accomplish at the start. Still have not heard or seen anything that confirms the hit and run accident and subsequent injuries. Did it really happen?

OP quotes FHP phone and case number.
If I really wanted to find out the truth or not of the post.
I wonder what I could do?:icon_wink:


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