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Andrea3051 11-25-2021 09:49 AM

Wildwood Dentists....Use with Caution
 
Before you go, do your homework....I won't go into all the details because the reviews on Facebook spell things out so well. Please read those first since they really reflect how this practice is run and my experience. I felt like a turkey on Thanksgiving, everyone wanted a piece!

I don't want anyone to feel like I did, overwhelmed & pushed....staff is fine but u should understand all the procedures they will try and sell you regardless of necessity and don't rush into those decisions the same day, especially if its your first visit.

good luck out there!

location is on 44

Babubhat 11-25-2021 10:55 AM

I didn’t have a good experience there. Will never go back

EdFNJ 11-25-2021 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrea3051 (Post 2033625)
Before you go, do your homework....I won't go into all the details because the reviews on Facebook spell things out so well. Please read those first since they really reflect how this practice is run and my experience. I felt like a turkey on Thanksgiving, everyone wanted a piece!

I don't want anyone to feel like I did, overwhelmed & pushed....staff is fine but u should understand all the procedures they will try and sell you regardless of necessity and don't rush into those decisions the same day, especially if its your first visit.

good luck out there!

Sounds just like, but likely NOT WORSE THAN Aspen Dental. After you leave that place you wonder "how's YOUR Aspen." After being with the same local dentist for close to 40 years (when SHE first came out of dental school) moving down here has been a dental horror ..... My wife did finally found what seems like an honest dentist who is not a salesman on 466 (Howell Dental). Of course everyone's opinion may vary but he seems better than the other 2 we have tried.

Babubhat 11-25-2021 12:50 PM

Corporate locations have monetary quotas. Best to avoid them. Plenty of insider discussions on YouTube. They either produce or are gone. Much like car salesmen

Andrea3051 11-25-2021 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2033672)
Sounds just like, but likely NOT WORSE THAN Aspen Dental. After you leave that place you wonder "how's YOUR Aspen." After being with the same local dentist for close to 40 years (when SHE first came out of dental school) moving down here has been a dental horror ..... My wife did finally found what seems like an honest dentist who is not a salesman on 466 (Howell Dental). Of course everyone's opinion may vary but he seems better than the other 2 we have tried.

yikes, i will avoid Aspen too, I think those corporate places operate the same. I really felt mugged afterwards, they kept sending in different people to try and get me to approve all the treatments they wanted me to do...I also had a long time dentist in a big city, never heard or was pushed into any of this but it was upsetting and had I not hit the brakes, I could have been left with lifelong issues from the work. I feel bad for anyone that doesn't escape and I almost gave in from being worn down. I did not even see the dentist that I booked with who is the owner. It was all very disappointing and now I know why they told me xrays and dr eval was free, it was to sell me treatments they propose to everyone right from the first visit, nothing is ever free without strings ;)

Kenswing 11-25-2021 01:05 PM

Is it the office on Main Street or Hwy 44?

EdFNJ 11-25-2021 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2033720)
Corporate locations have monetary quotas. Best to avoid them. Plenty of insider discussions on YouTube. They either produce or are gone. Much like car salesmen

Actually they are franchises from what I have been reading. Look up the owner of Assbeen Dental on 466 (unless it has changed in the last 2 years) on the State website you'd see some interesting stuff. Not sure if they are all owned around here by the same folks.

Andrea3051 11-25-2021 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2033725)
Is it the office on Main Street or Hwy 44?

the one on 44

Babubhat 11-25-2021 01:38 PM

Watch teethtalkgirl on YouTube. Has information from the inside. Deep cleaning one of the greatest scams for most

Andrea3051 11-25-2021 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2033740)
Watch teethtalkgirl on YouTube. Has information from the inside. Deep cleaning one of the greatest scams for most

omg, that's what they tried to sell me, the deep cleaning, after I came home and researched it, I could have been left with permanent harm due the risks never mentioned. they do it to everyone and these selling practices should be illegal, they try and scare you to buy in....ughh

Topspinmo 11-25-2021 02:25 PM

Well, I had to go through three dentists before I found one that didn’t up sell. They was in bubble. I had to get out of bubble to get honest care. I like how they push the deep cleaning right off. Which maybe required it you don’t have you’re teeth cleaned in years or regularly. In my case every 6 months. First two. said I needed deep cleaning which I knew was Bs. At my age I am lucky I’ve got 90% of my teeth. If I listened to first two they would of pulled them all and replaced them with 6K plus a tooth implant’s. Good luck on you’re quest to find good honest dentist.

Laker14 11-25-2021 02:52 PM

I have spoken with a few dentists and hygienists who have worked for the dental corporations, and have been told repeatedly that once the doctor does his/her exam and treatment planning, before it is presented to the patient, a "treatment coordinator " who is typically a high school graduate with no dental education, adds the treatments that the corporate bosses insist go on any treatment plan. These procedures have been carefully chosen as procedures that fall in the gaps of insurance coverages, so that insurance maximum fees are skirted. These procedures are, of course, high return procedures for the corporation.
I am a retired dentist myself, and for years I would see disgruntled patients from the corporation practices, and see their treatment plans, and as far as I could tell, they had very little to do with clinical findings.
Very often, in almost every case in fact, if there were a few fillings that needed to be done, because those were low profit items under the insurance plan, the corporate practice would refuse to do that work unless the entire treatment plan was approved and paid for in advance.

Dotneko 11-25-2021 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2033672)
Sounds just like, but likely NOT WORSE THAN Aspen Dental. After you leave that place you wonder "how's YOUR Aspen." After being with the same local dentist for close to 40 years (when SHE first came out of dental school) moving down here has been a dental horror ..... My wife did finally found what seems like an honest dentist who is not a salesman on 466 (Howell Dental). Of course everyone's opinion may vary but he seems better than the other 2 we have tried.

Love Howell Dental!

UpNorth 11-25-2021 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2033789)
Love Howell Dental!

Your chances are much better if you go outside the "bubble" and find a dental office that isn't a franchise, and doesn't advertise daily in the local paper. Went to 3 Village experiences before finding a good, honest operator about 15 miles away. I've had 45 years of experience in the dental industry and know all the tricks that unethical dentists can use to sell high profit treatments that may not be needed.

AZ SLIM 11-26-2021 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2033849)
Your chances are much better if you go outside the "bubble" and find a dental office that isn't a franchise, and doesn't advertise daily in the local paper. Went to 3 Village experiences before finding a good, honest operator about 15 miles away. I've had 45 years of experience in the dental industry and know all the tricks that unethical dentists can use to sell high profit treatments that may not be needed.

What does "Outside the Bubble" mean?

Riversong 11-26-2021 05:48 AM

Dentist found who does not upsell?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2033763)
Well, I had to go through three dentists before I found one that didn’t up sell. They was in bubble. I had to get out of bubble to get honest care. I like how they push the deep cleaning right off. Which maybe required it you don’t have you’re teeth cleaned in years or regularly. In my case every 6 months. First two. said I needed deep cleaning which I knew was Bs. At my age I am lucky I’ve got 90% of my teeth. If I listened to first two they would of pulled them all and replaced them with 6K plus a tooth implant’s. Good luck on you’re quest to find good honest dentist.

Could you share the name of the dentist who does not upsell? Much appreciated.

thevillages2013 11-26-2021 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ SLIM (Post 2033862)
What does "Outside the Bubble" mean?

Outside The Villages or maybe “outside golf cart accessibility “ . TV is often referred to as The Bubble

Topspinmo 11-26-2021 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riversong (Post 2033864)
Could you share the name of the dentist who does not upsell? Much appreciated.

Not on open forum. Private email if want details.

eeroger 11-26-2021 06:22 AM

Dentist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riversong (Post 2033864)
Could you share the name of the dentist who does not upsell? Much appreciated.

Serenity Dental Spa in Spanish Springs. Dr Luong is AWESOME! Have been going to her for 10 years. Because she is by herself, it could take awhile to get an apt.

thevillages2013 11-26-2021 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrea3051 (Post 2033625)
Before you go, do your homework....I won't go into all the details because the reviews on Facebook spell things out so well. Please read those first since they really reflect how this practice is run and my experience. I felt like a turkey on Thanksgiving, everyone wanted a piece!

I don't want anyone to feel like I did, overwhelmed & pushed....staff is fine but u should understand all the procedures they will try and sell you regardless of necessity and don't rush into those decisions the same day, especially if its your first visit.

good luck out there!

location is on 44

Well I still go there. I tried to leave them but everywhere I went they wanted to do a deep cleaning even though I haven’t missed a six month cleaning so I went back to Wildwood. They are a bit of a blank show as they will have two different “hygienists” one doing the cleaning and one the polishing and flossing. I have a small chip off one molar and every time the dentist wants to fix it and every time I say no. By the way x-rays all the time are another huge scam. I asked one time why all the x-rays. Answer “to find cavities between your teeth”. I asked how many times over my 50+ years of x-rays they have found a cavity between my teeth and the answer was “well never on these charts”. NEVER. The dentist did let me skip x-rays last time. I always tell them the only thing I really want you to do is clean my teeth!

msilagy 11-26-2021 07:07 AM

I knew a dentist personally from Aspen - they are paid commissions and have quotas........so the push is on!

kendi 11-26-2021 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2033725)
Is it the office on Main Street or Hwy 44?

OP said 44 in her post.

Kenswing 11-26-2021 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2033911)
OP said 44 in her post.

If you'll notice she edited her post after I asked that question. But thanks anyway.. :ohdear:

WesMan 11-26-2021 08:22 AM

Beware of unqualified Surgeon !!!
 
My Son is an Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon. Since he works in an office and at a hospital he is required to handle emergencies on some weekends. He is often called to the hospital to work on people who had dental procedures in a corporate office by doctors who are not qualified to do certain procedures, these people often end up in the emergency room with problems that my son must fix due to prior work done by an unqualified Surgeon. Beware of what the doctor’s training is and specialty is!!! Also be certain to know if your doctor has coverage at nights and weekends!!!

Andrea3051 11-26-2021 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesMan (Post 2033936)
My Son is an Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon. Since he works in an office and at a hospital he is required to handle emergencies on some weekends. He is often called to the hospital to work on people who had dental procedures in a corporate office by doctors who are not qualified to do certain procedures, these people often end up in the emergency room with problems that my son must fix due to prior work done by an unqualified Surgeon. Beware of what the doctor’s training is and specialty is!!! Also be certain to know if your doctor has coverage at nights and weekends!!!

thanks for sharing this, after I digested everything that went down that day, my biggest fear was that I let them do all that work and end up at the ER with lifelong issues, as they are not the ones impacted. I was very shaken by the whole experience, the multiple rounds of people coming in to push me and my delicate health issues they did not bother to read all the forms I completed. this should really be illegal to do to people because I barely got out and how many don't? I never even got my cleaning since they only wanted to do the "deep clean" as they pitch to everyone.....this is so unfortunate for anyone looking for dental care.

Jerry Leinsing 11-26-2021 08:56 AM

Dentist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2033663)
I didn’t have a good experience there. Will never go back

Dr Eddie Orobitg Lee St Leesburg. With him 6 years. Mary Lou is office. Great.

Proveone 11-26-2021 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrea3051 (Post 2033625)
Before you go, do your homework....I won't go into all the details because the reviews on Facebook spell things out so well. Please read those first since they really reflect how this practice is run and my experience. I felt like a turkey on Thanksgiving, everyone wanted a piece!

I don't want anyone to feel like I did, overwhelmed & pushed....staff is fine but u should understand all the procedures they will try and sell you regardless of necessity and don't rush into those decisions the same day, especially if its your first visit.

good luck out there!

location is on 44

If you are talking about the Syrian dentist on RT. 301 in Wildwood, I agree. Stay away! He is just looking for ways to make money. I went once and that's all it took. His nationality has nothing to do with my opinion.

rde3036 11-26-2021 10:42 AM

I've used Palm Ridge Dental for 8 years. Have never had any problems. Dr. Jabber is great!

chenault55 11-26-2021 10:57 AM

Not within the confines of the Villages.

Pres1939 11-26-2021 11:47 AM

Dentisfs
 
I have had excellent experiences at Aspen Dental. I have no idea why yours was not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2033672)
Sounds just like, but likely NOT WORSE THAN Aspen Dental. After you leave that place you wonder "how's YOUR Aspen." After being with the same local dentist for close to 40 years (when SHE first came out of dental school) moving down here has been a dental horror ..... My wife did finally found what seems like an honest dentist who is not a salesman on 466 (Howell Dental). Of course everyone's opinion may vary but he seems better than the other 2 we have tried.


Carla B 11-26-2021 01:03 PM

There are a few good ones in The Villages. Here's two examples, Palm Ridge Dental and Kelly McKnight. We've seen Dr. McKnight for 13 years and she has never tried to sell anything, except to encourage my husband to pull a diseased tooth. He finally agreed when it started hurting.

Michaellinda 11-26-2021 02:28 PM

Same here
 
It maybe our zip code? I just moved into town and had my first dental appointment. I felt the same way.

I felt that once they looked into my mouth and saw a few crowns and an implant, they saw dollar signs. It seemed like they saw the dental work and thought this guy cares about taking care of his mouth and we will make him out gravy train.

They had the nerve to tell me I needed to have my top four front teeth ground and capped.

Mind you, I have not missed an annual dental appointment when that was the norm or a semi annual appointment when it became the norm.

Obviously I politely told them I would like to speak with my NY dentist before moving forward. He told me very bluntly that they are wrong and find a new dentist ASAP.

Ps. I had zero cavities. 😂

Anyone have a non shyster dentist kindly share their name.

Thanks!

Primera199 11-26-2021 02:59 PM

Don't go there!!!
 
They x-rayed my teeth and wanted to x-ray them again in 2 months I said no. Another time they told me I had a cracked tooth and wanted to extract right away. I said no and walked out never to return. They are not professional they act like their in dental school
I now go to Village Dental and absolutely love Dr Hall

Ken & Patsy Tapp 11-26-2021 03:43 PM

Not in The Villages.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ SLIM (Post 2033862)
What does "Outside the Bubble" mean?

Not located in ‘The Villages’

Worldseries27 11-26-2021 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrea3051 (Post 2033721)
yikes, i will avoid aspen too, i think those corporate places operate the same. I really felt mugged afterwards, they kept sending in different people to try and get me to approve all the treatments they wanted me to do...i also had a long time dentist in a big city, never heard or was pushed into any of this but it was upsetting and had i not hit the brakes, i could have been left with lifelong issues from the work. I feel bad for anyone that doesn't escape and i almost gave in from being worn down. I did not even see the dentist that i booked with who is the owner. It was all very disappointing and now i know why they told me xrays and dr eval was free, it was to sell me treatments they propose to everyone right from the first visit, nothing is ever free without strings ;)

roger that. Former customer

saratogaman 11-26-2021 05:26 PM

Heritage Dental, near the RaceTrac gas station, is our choice. Been with them for years, competent, caring, no up-selling. 352.750.4111. They process insurance claims for you.

Sandy and Ed 11-27-2021 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pres1939 (Post 2034077)
I have had excellent experiences at Aspen Dental. I have no idea why yours was not.

How many experiences did you have with them? How long have you lived here? Just wondering

arlenewinters 11-27-2021 06:05 AM

I had the same horrible experience. I only went one time and never went back.

WindyCityzen 11-27-2021 07:19 AM

Before I moved I asked my lifelong dental practice (2 docs over the years) how to find a good honest dentist down here. He suggested to find someone who got his/her training from the same post-graduate institute. I went on his institute’s website and found a DDS a bit south of Ocala, but after phone interviews I was more comfortable with someone in Winter Park. That’s where I’ve gone and I’ve been very pleased. I go to Costco nearby too! Lol. I’ve never heard a good thing about chain dentists.

Goinghiway 11-27-2021 07:59 AM

Village Dental- Brownwood
 
Best service I’ve had in years!!! I recommend them to all. Costs up front, fast service, and asked Me when I wanted to come back, not pushing the fact that my insurance paid for 4 cleanings a year…. I was very impressed


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