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boxcarwilly 11-29-2021 12:03 PM

OTA outside roof mounted antenna clarification
 
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Contacted ARC on OTA (over the air) outside roof mounted antennas for for receiving television transmission.We are in Bison Valley which is ARC regulated.
Our restrictions section 9 listed below.
Simply stated ARC stated FCC overides section 9 and outside antennas are allowed.

petsetc 11-29-2021 12:39 PM

by law - FCC says you can put up an antenna.

Installing Consumer-Owned Antennas and Satellite Dishes | Federal Communications Commission

Bogie Shooter 11-29-2021 12:44 PM

Can't ARC clarify this for you??
They have more clout that posters on TOTV.

AZ SLIM 11-29-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 2035047)
Contacted ARC on OTA (over the air) outside roof mounted antennas for for receiving television transmission.We are in Bison Valley which is ARC regulated.
Our restrictions section 9 listed below.
Simply stated ARC stated FCC overides section 9 and outside antennas are allowed.

Thanks folks. Great info. I still might follow Bogie Shooter's idea and discuss with the ARC first. Good to be armed with info on the FCC. First I have to find out if I even get a strong signal in my area. I assume there is an install company around there. We are not there yet.

boxcarwilly 11-29-2021 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2035058)
Can't ARC clarify this for you??
They have more clout that posters on TOTV.

They suggested out of sight as much as possible but again they are preempted and overruled by the FCC.

Dana1963 11-29-2021 03:22 PM

I heard it was OK on TOTV so it must be OK.

villagetinker 11-29-2021 05:36 PM

ARC cannot stop you from installing an outdoor antenna.

bob47 11-29-2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2035124)
ARC cannot stop you from installing an outdoor antenna.

Or, I believe, an outdoor clothesline if you were so inclined.

sdeikenberry 11-30-2021 06:18 AM

I live in a neighborhood with an HOA. We've talked to ARC about this. ARC says Federal law prohibits restricting access to television signals over the airwaves. No problem putting up an antenna. You might want to be reasonable about it since you still have to live beside your neighbors.

DaleDivine 11-30-2021 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2035058)
Can't ARC clarify this for you??
They have more clout that posters on TOTV.

WOW... That's really hard to believe.
Maybe there are some posters lurking on here members of ARC...
:shocked::shocked::shocked:

kayak 11-30-2021 07:25 AM

The FCC ruling overrides any deed restrictions, covenants, or homeowner associations. There is a limit on the size of the antenna. It cannot exceed 1 meter in any dimension. There may also be a limit to the height of the antenna.

Imagine, every home in The Villages having an antenna. What an eyesore. I have an antenna in my attic and I personally will not have an exterior antenna. The Villages is too nice of a place.

Travelhunter123 11-30-2021 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kayak (Post 2035219)
The FCC ruling overrides any deed restrictions, covenants, or homeowner associations. There is a limit on the size of the antenna. It cannot exceed 1 meter in any dimension. There may also be a limit to the height of the antenna.

Imagine, every home in The Villages having an antenna. What an eyesore. I have an antenna in my attic and I personally will not have an exterior antenna. The Villages is too nice of a place.

I have an antenna. It is very small, flat, round and can not be seen from the front or back of my house. It is mounted below the peak of the roof. It is not unattractive like the 1950’s antennas
I get over 50 channels including abc, cbs, nbc. PBS
I purchased an Amazon Recast box as a Dvr to record my OTA channels
It was installed by Les Adler 407 913 9947

Petersweeney 11-30-2021 07:51 AM

Pre internet I used to have a tenant that put an antenna on the roof of a multiple dwelling… I think he said he could talk with his relatives in Romania……gotta luv Brooklyn….

jrref 11-30-2021 08:13 AM

The Villages can't stop you from installing an antenna but they can restrict you on where you put it. For example can you bolt a large Dish antenna to the front winow of your home? Probably not. I would check with ARC so your covered.

Indydealmaker 11-30-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 2035133)
Or, I believe, an outdoor clothesline if you were so inclined.

Passive solar.

kendi 11-30-2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kayak (Post 2035219)
The FCC ruling overrides any deed restrictions, covenants, or homeowner associations. There is a limit on the size of the antenna. It cannot exceed 1 meter in any dimension. There may also be a limit to the height of the antenna.

Imagine, every home in The Villages having an antenna. What an eyesore. I have an antenna in my attic and I personally will not have an exterior antenna. The Villages is too nice of a place.

Attic antennas don’t work in some areas of TV. Need the outdoor which we have. It is minimal and not any more of an eyesore than those ugly round vents on the rooftops. It’s simply a matter of what we get used to.

sallyg 11-30-2021 09:04 AM

FCC has authority. Not the ARC.

Mortal1 11-30-2021 09:10 AM

where did you see a clothesline within the villages?
 
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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 2035133)
Or, I believe, an outdoor clothesline if you were so inclined.

good luck with doing that.

OhioBuckeye 11-30-2021 09:30 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 2035047)
Contacted ARC on OTA (over the air) outside roof mounted antennas for for receiving television transmission.We are in Bison Valley which is ARC regulated.
Our restrictions section 9 listed below.
Simply stated ARC stated FCC overides section 9 and outside antennas are allowed.

So what you’re saying, even if TV have restrictions on putting an antenna on the house, just ignor them? I know what you mean because when we lived in TV you weren’t allowed to put a TV Antenna on the house but some homes had antenna’s on house & they never took them down for the 8 yrs. we lived there. Does TV let you put up antenna’s now?

GregG7 11-30-2021 10:36 AM

One thing I haven't seen mentioned here: An outside antenna may make a good lighting rod. If good reception can be obtained from an antenna installed in the attic, then that may be the preferred solution.

HogPilot 11-30-2021 11:55 AM

Better OTA reception would result in more antennas
 
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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2035265)
Attic antennas don’t work in some areas of TV. Need the outdoor which we have. It is minimal and not any more of an eyesore than those ugly round vents on the rooftops. It’s simply a matter of what we get used to.

Due to the distance from Orlando, OTA reception is limited to only a few village areas. If OTA was available, you would see a marked increase in the use of outdoor and attic antennas.
The Villages is a gold mine for cable and satellite companies.

gego3650 11-30-2021 12:42 PM

Know people who have had antennas for years and not a word has been said to them

Harry Gilbert 11-30-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2035280)
good luck with doing that.

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Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 2035133)
Or, I believe, an outdoor clothesline if you were so inclined.

check this out

19 'right to dry' states outlaw clothesline bans; is yours among them?

OhioBuckeye 12-01-2021 09:09 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by HogPilot (Post 2035345)
Due to the distance from Orlando, OTA reception is limited to only a few village areas. If OTA was available, you would see a marked increase in the use of outdoor and attic antennas.
The Villages is a gold mine for cable and satellite companies.

I had an Attic antenna & got 45 channels & it faced Orlando. We lived in the Village of Charlotte & at the time we weren’t allowed to have an antenna on the house but I saw 3 antenna’s on houses within a mile or less. But TV didn’t say anything because they didn’t want make anybody mad just like some golfers complained about people & the way they played golf. TV is changing little by little!

nn0wheremann 12-01-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 2035047)
Contacted ARC on OTA (over the air) outside roof mounted antennas for for receiving television transmission.We are in Bison Valley which is ARC regulated.
Our restrictions section 9 listed below.
Simply stated ARC stated FCC overides section 9 and outside antennas are allowed.

That is correct. Needless to say, some discretion and sense of visual propriety should be considered when mounting your antenna.

Bilyclub 12-01-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2035527)
I had an Attic antenna & got 45 channels & it faced Orlando. We lived in the Village of Charlotte & at the time we weren’t allowed to have an antenna on the house but I saw 3 antenna’s on houses within a mile or less. But TV didn’t say anything because they didn’t want make anybody mad just like some golfers complained about people & the way they played golf. TV is changing little by little!

The FCC ruling has been around for many years so maybe TV didn't want to take on the Federal Government knowing they would lose.

kendi 12-01-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GregG7 (Post 2035317)
One thing I haven't seen mentioned here: An outside antenna may make a good lighting rod. If good reception can be obtained from an antenna installed in the attic, then that may be the preferred solution.

That was one of my first questions before we had ours installed outside. It’s grounded so not a problem. Attic antenna was not the solution. We tried and it didn’t work. Too much metal in the house and can’t get it high enough.

boxcarwilly 12-01-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2035289)
So what you’re saying, even if TV have restrictions on putting an antenna on the house, just ignor them? I know what you mean because when we lived in TV you weren’t allowed to put a TV Antenna on the house but some homes had antenna’s on house & they never took them down for the 8 yrs. we lived there. Does TV let you put up antenna’s now?

Yes,they have no say..as they are overruled by the FCC.

boxcarwilly 12-01-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HogPilot (Post 2035345)
Due to the distance from Orlando, OTA reception is limited to only a few village areas. If OTA was available, you would see a marked increase in the use of outdoor and attic antennas.
The Villages is a gold mine for cable and satellite companies.

We are north of 466 and use a attic mounted large multi element Winegard antenna aimed towards Orlando. We receive all 4 major networks and side channels 60 total.
The larger elements are/were for WESH which the last of the VHF holdouts. WESH9NBC is now UHF. A high gain UHF only antenna might be an option.The Extreme UHF shows good gain.easier to install as it has no wide elements but i have not tried it .

worahm 12-01-2021 12:14 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

The FCC exemption to HOA outside TV antenna restrictions does not include antennas used for Amateur Radio.

Bilyclub 12-01-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by worahm (Post 2035585)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

The FCC exemption to HOA outside TV antenna restrictions does not include antennas used for Amateur Radio.

There is a incident going right now concerning a ham operator and his antenna in OTOW.

boxcarwilly 12-01-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2035586)
There is a incident going right now concerning a ham operator and his antenna in OTOW.

What is OTOW?

justjim 12-01-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by worahm (Post 2035585)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

The FCC exemption to HOA outside TV antenna restrictions does not include antennas used for Amateur Radio.

Where I grew up, many had 30’ - 40’ towers beside the house with antenna and rotors in order to get television reception. I guess they were beautiful but frankly never noticed. We have a few neighbors who quit cable and are streaming now but we still like our cable for television and internet - but to each his own. :coolsmiley:

Topspinmo 12-01-2021 02:42 PM

What more uglier than pool solar panels or solar panels on roof. I mean dam it roof who looks up anyway.

Topspinmo 12-01-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2035586)
There is a incident going right now concerning a ham operator and his antenna in OTOW.

Ham radios antenna are different horse. Depending on power of the radio. In old days it could cut in on TV antenna reception so bad you couldn’t hear when watching TV.

Bilyclub 12-01-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 2035592)
What is OTOW?

On Top Of the World.

Cliff Fr 12-02-2021 11:24 AM

We live in the Ocala Natl Forest and we get multiple Orlando stations with our hdtv antenna and it's not up very high


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