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Andrea3051 12-02-2021 04:41 PM

doggie nuisance..
 
Hi All,
looking for an option that I have not already explored. I am living in a courtyard villa mostly to enjoy the backyard with my pup. My next-door neighbor also has a dog that is reactive every time we are outside with growling and mind-numbing barking to the point where my sweet pup can't even do her business in peace. Not to mention my enjoyment of my yard as well.

yes, I have already spoken to the neighbor, she has a doggie door since she is out a lot so its great for her but for the neighbors listening to barking day and night, not so much. I told her how bad it was but she could care less.

I also contacted the villages customer service and they directed me to animal control. not sure this elevates to that level since the barking is intermittent, i.e. he reacts to activity around his area.

Is this just my luck? why do people leave barking dogs out when we are all living so close to each other? not the experience I wanted here for sure as a newbie....

any suggestions welcomed....

Koapaka 12-02-2021 05:27 PM

So very grateful we did not go with a courtyard villa like we initially wanted. We don't have a fur baby, but because of the issues we have heard of from those that did go with the lower maintenance yards with similar issues. You don't need to own a fur baby for the one next door to be an issue when he/she hears/sees/imagines a threat they think they are protecting their beloved owner from.

vintageogauge 12-02-2021 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2036060)
Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

Dogs will smell another dog even from behind a fence. They will also smell the dog's owner. You don't have to make noise for it to bark.

asianthree 12-02-2021 06:15 PM

We were dead set on buying a CYV in 2010. Our TV salesperson put us in one for our visit. I could hear the nice lady 2 doors down entire conversation every time she took a phone call.

People behind us had their TV on the lanai, no picture for us but we could hear every program they watched clearly. Those with doggie doors, have no idea how much their dogs bark. By morning 3 we were so glad our rep opened our eyes to CYV living. I would imagine many are quite, but didn’t want to gamble.

Babubhat 12-02-2021 06:37 PM

If a property has a fence assume there is an annoying animal nearby. First rule of real estate here

Shbullet 12-02-2021 06:51 PM

Such a ridiculous reply to a person with a valid concern # 2 post

Shbullet 12-02-2021 06:59 PM

Courtyard villas can be perfect depending on what your doing.. My neighbor complained that my music was too loud , so I understood and turned it off. Then he went into his Lania and I listened to a 1 hour conversation with him and his West Virginia friends in the most loud obnoxious southern slang voice I ever heard. Much worse than my music ,

Babubhat 12-02-2021 07:04 PM

Fences do not insure good neighbors in courtyard villas. Buyer beware

Garywt 12-02-2021 07:18 PM

It is a shame that you neighbor is not a kind person. Most people will take care of the issue like locking to doggie door when out or take the dog with them. If needed, crate the dog when they are out. Since they do not seem to care about anyone else I would call animal control and be sure you and your dog are outside so they can hear what is going on. As for the comments about fences, some don’t understand that not all homes with houses have dogs and homes without fences are not allowed to add them. Good luck and hope it works out.

DAVES 12-02-2021 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrea3051 (Post 2036050)
Hi All,
looking for an option that I have not already explored. I am living in a courtyard villa mostly to enjoy the backyard with my pup. My next-door neighbor also has a dog that is reactive every time we are outside with growling and mind-numbing barking to the point where my sweet pup can't even do her business in peace. Not to mention my enjoyment of my yard as well.

yes, I have already spoken to the neighbor, she has a doggie door since she is out a lot so its great for her but for the neighbors listening to barking day and night, not so much. I told her how bad it was but she could care less.

I also contacted the villages customer service and they directed me to animal control. not sure this elevates to that level since the barking is intermittent, i.e. he reacts to activity around his area.

Is this just my luck? why do people leave barking dogs out when we are all living so close to each other? not the experience I wanted here for sure as a newbie....

any suggestions welcomed....

As i'm sure you are aware, you can talk to people about so many things. But their dog,
do not expect people to be reasonable. Surely the villages people are aware of this.
Like most things there is a proper way to complain. A phone call is easy to dismiss.
A letter return receipt cannot be denied that they got it.

We typically only hear one side of the story. It seems your neighbor does not care and has no intention of dealing with it. The dog is barking because it is probably bored. There are devices that sense a dog barking and issues an ultrasonic burst. The good ones are like 30-$40. I had one, it did not seem to work. The dogs bark did change-perhaps he was laughing.

You can as I did, get a silent dog whistle. You train the dog to bark when it hears the whistle. Fairly easy to do. Then you blow it a few times at say 1am and they will solve the problem when it is bothering them.

DAVES 12-02-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2036065)
So very grateful we did not go with a courtyard villa like we initially wanted. We don't have a fur baby, but because of the issues we have heard of from those that did go with the lower maintenance yards with similar issues. You don't need to own a fur baby for the one next door to be an issue when he/she hears/sees/imagines a threat they think they are protecting their beloved owner from.

As posted elsewhere. When we decided to retire and where to go, I became aware of an island off North Carolina, it had a nice home, it was several acres, it had a small herd of wild horses and was offered for one million. I was teasing when I told my wife I would be king and she could be queen. HUM Immediately there was discontent from the only other resident.

Your rights end where the other persons rights begin. That is truly simple and covers most complex issues. This place can and will become hell when all think ME ME ME.
That includes a barking dog.

fdpaq0580 12-02-2021 08:28 PM

Oooh, yeah!
 
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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2036082)
If a property has a fence assume there is an annoying animal nearby. First rule of real estate here

And the annoying animal might not be the cat or dog!!!

🙈🙉💩😠

Djean1981 12-02-2021 09:37 PM

They sell bark deterrents on Amazon and other sites. It emits an unpleasant tone when barking is detected. Put it close to your neighbor's yard. Trigger the barking a couple times while your dog is inside. The devices don't seem to work for all dogs, but I used one ( a fake bird house) for my neighbors large dogs. It worked very quickly. It may be worth a try...

Here's an example product:

https://www.amazon.com/Yunboo-Ultras...%2C171&sr=8-18

Vikingjunior 12-03-2021 08:43 AM

Record the "excessive" dog barking and file a complaint with The Villages, animal control and the Police. Other then that you would need to move.

ex34449 12-03-2021 09:34 AM

Not the cheapest method but get a frequency generator, set it to dogs threshold, point it towards offending dog and turn up the volume until it stops barking. When it stops, turn it off. I've trained several neighbor dogs using the method and I'm happy to say that within a week, all have been 'trained' to shut the heck up with no humans other than I knowing anything happened.

Road-Runner 12-03-2021 10:16 AM

We're dog owners and would have never responded the way your neighbor did to your complaint. As pet owners it's our responsibility to keep our dogs from becoming a neighborhood nuisance. They're far from perfect and like to bark at everything from lizards and small birds in the yard to people walking their pets down the street outside our lanai, we have a squirt bottle with water in it that we spray on their faces to make them stop. It's not a perfect solution but they're not allowed to go on & on with their barking.

b0bd0herty 12-04-2021 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2036060)
Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

blaming the victim?

DaleDivine 12-04-2021 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2036076)
We were dead set on buying a CYV in 2010. Our TV salesperson put us in one for our visit. I could hear the nice lady 2 doors down entire conversation every time she took a phone call.

People behind us had their TV on the lanai, no picture for us but we could hear every program they watched clearly. Those with doggie doors, have no idea how much their dogs bark. By morning 3 we were so glad our rep opened our eyes to CYV living. I would imagine many are quite, but didn’t want to gamble.

We love our CYV and have a doggy door. Our neighbors have dogs that rarely bark.
It's their nature to bark at strange noises. Ours rarely barks and stays inside when we are gone. We never hear our neighbors when our lanai door is open. Maybe we just got the best CYV neighborhood with fantastic neighbors...

:bigbow::bigbow:

GOLFER54 12-04-2021 06:51 AM

I have a neighbor behind me who has two dogs that they put out on their backyard lanai that bark non- stop whenever they are let out there. It was so annoying that the neighbor who lived next door to them argued with them about the disturbance only to be intimidated by owner, and he moved, another woman bought the home and she moved. Till this very day, a third person bought the home but isn’t there full time. I hesitate to even have lunch on my lanai with all that racket going on. I find it totally disrespectful to neighbors and the neighborhood that these types of behaviors can continue without consequences. I am a dog lover, and have a dog myself that only barks if someone comes to the door or on my property.

Petersweeney 12-04-2021 07:31 AM

Lucky for my neighbor, Buddy my 16 yo golden tries to bark but now he sounds like Harpo’s horn on low volume.

DOGSAREKEEPERS 12-04-2021 07:33 AM

I don't know how often you go to play with your dog but you could explain to the neighbor that you would like both dogs to get along and meet each other. If they can meet & get along the next door dog might not bark so much when your dog is out.
Or...you could ask if it's OK if you call her when you know you are going out with your dog and perhaps she could keep her dog inside during that period of time. Bring a treat for the dog.
or...you could get some freeze dried liver treats and when the dog starts barking throw him a treat over the wall.
or ...if all else fails get a boom box and play something with a heavy bass next to the fence when you are out with your dog . That should annoy both the next door dog and the neighbor and maybe the message will be clear.

Joecool 12-04-2021 07:39 AM

on alert
 
My dogs are often on alert. We have a doggie door. I have introduced them to all of the neighbors and now that they know them once the neighbor calls out their name the dogs calm right down. be better friends where their dog is not on alert and warning it's owner that there's a dog in the next yard they would get to know one another. Dogs talk but maybe not as much if the are buddies. Just a suggestion it work for us

fdpaq0580 12-04-2021 07:47 AM

Disagree with treats.
 
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Originally Posted by DOGSAREKEEPERS (Post 2036449)
I don't know how often you go to play with your dog but you could explain to the neighbor that you would like both dogs to get along and meet each other. If they can meet & get along the next door dog might not bark so much when your dog is out.
Or...you could ask if it's OK if you call her when you know you are going out with your dog and perhaps she could keep her dog inside during that period of time. Bring a treat for the dog.
or...you could get some freeze dried liver treats and when the dog starts barking throw him a treat over the wall.
or ...if all else fails get a boom box and play something with a heavy bass next to the fence when you are out with your dog . That should annoy both the next door dog and the neighbor and maybe the message will be clear.

Do NOT throw treats to the neighbors dog when he starts barking. Once he scarfs down the treat, he will bark for another, and on, and on.

skippy05 12-04-2021 08:22 AM

Take this an eye-opening moment and get that thing sold. These noise issues are an integral part of CYV living. Too bad you didn't realize this before purchasing. Such is life. But, get it sold and this mistake behind you.

sallyg 12-04-2021 08:24 AM

Very sorry for your problem. It can make your day-to-day life so unpleasant. We also experienced a problem with a neighbor's dog. Don't expect any support from the Villages or animal control. We tried both and everybody passed the buck. It was quite a shock since we had just moved to TV and assumed all the various deed restrictions, rules and regulations etc. were enforced. Silly us. Best to try to work out something with your neighbor. Good luck.

kendi 12-04-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2036060)
Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

Believe me they know. Our dog and neighbor’s always know when the other is out. Keen sense of hearing and smell. I suspect the owner does walk her dog but the point of a CYV is to not to have to walk it every time it has to go. Especially at night.

kendi 12-04-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DOGSAREKEEPERS (Post 2036449)
I don't know how often you go to play with your dog but you could explain to the neighbor that you would like both dogs to get along and meet each other. If they can meet & get along the next door dog might not bark so much when your dog is out.
Or...you could ask if it's OK if you call her when you know you are going out with your dog and perhaps she could keep her dog inside during that period of time. Bring a treat for the dog.
or...you could get some freeze dried liver treats and when the dog starts barking throw him a treat over the wall.
or ...if all else fails get a boom box and play something with a heavy bass next to the fence when you are out with your dog . That should annoy both the next door dog and the neighbor and maybe the message will be clear.

Neighbor is often gone when the dog is out…. Doggie door

PugMom 12-04-2021 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Road-Runner (Post 2036261)
We're dog owners and would have never responded the way your neighbor did to your complaint. As pet owners it's our responsibility to keep our dogs from becoming a neighborhood nuisance. They're far from perfect and like to bark at everything from lizards and small birds in the yard to people walking their pets down the street outside our lanai, we have a squirt bottle with water in it that we spray on their faces to make them stop. It's not a perfect solution but they're not allowed to go on & on with their barking.

we have the same problems & use the spray bottle thing, too. :bigbow:

Two Bills 12-04-2021 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2036481)
we have the same problems & use the spray bottle thing, too. :bigbow:

Get a greyhound next time.
Lazy buggers sleep most of the time, except for meal times.
They can't be bothered with all the guarding the home and barking stuff.
They fart a lot as well.
I love'em!

airstreamingypsy 12-04-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2036060)
Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

So, you start by blaming the victim, and finish by showing us all that you know nothing about dogs.

Maybe this is one you should have scrolled on by.

Beplion 12-04-2021 09:00 AM

Assume you're from up north. What other reason would there be to degrade a southern accent???? Southerners are offended by northerners loud accent but we dont complain about it here

Cbsmith3133@gmail.com 12-04-2021 09:03 AM

Barking Dog
 
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The BarxBuddy works wonders. It can be found on Amazon or Google.

airstreamingypsy 12-04-2021 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOGSAREKEEPERS (Post 2036449)
I don't know how often you go to play with your dog but you could explain to the neighbor that you would like both dogs to get along and meet each other. If they can meet & get along the next door dog might not bark so much when your dog is out.
Or...you could ask if it's OK if you call her when you know you are going out with your dog and perhaps she could keep her dog inside during that period of time. Bring a treat for the dog.
or...you could get some freeze dried liver treats and when the dog starts barking throw him a treat over the wall.
or ...if all else fails get a boom box and play something with a heavy bass next to the fence when you are out with your dog . That should annoy both the next door dog and the neighbor and maybe the message will be clear.

If a dog barks, and a liver treat rains down on him, he will forever bark hoping for a second miracle. Never treat a dog who is behaving badly.

jammaiora 12-04-2021 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2036060)
Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

I guess you have never had a dog or not one in a few years. Dogs have keen senses. They know when there are people or animals near them without seeing them.

The Caretaker 12-04-2021 09:54 AM

Barking Dogs
 
I have the same problem. We live in a patio villa. Our neighbors leave their 125lb golden retriever at home alone. Their window is at the side of their house just 8 feet from my patio. Barks every time we go out side for as long as we are outside. I made all the calls you did.

So much for peaceful enjoyment of our property.
Shame on disrespecting neighbors who think “They have arrived and can do anything they want,”

Joanne19335 12-04-2021 09:55 AM

I love dogs, so when I had this problem up north, I got to know the dog. Once we were friends, he never barked at me again. Unless you have a severe allergy, make friends with the fur baby.

CFrance 12-04-2021 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 2036527)
I love dogs, so when I had this problem up north, I got to know the dog. Once we were friends, he never barked at me again. Unless you have a severe allergy, make friends with the fur baby.

I agree with this. OP has a dog, so allergies might not be an issue. I would take treats over and personally give them to the dog. More than once. Pet the dog, learn the dog's name. Make sure the dog sees you and gets to know your scent. Then if he barks when you come outside, speak to the dog in a pleasant manner. Even then throw a treat over after he quiets down.
It shouldn't take long for this problem to go away, especially if OP can take her own dog over to meet & greet.

xcaligirl 12-04-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2036060)
Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

Dog SMELL other dogs, they don't need to see them! It's rude for the dog owner to allow the dog to go outside when she's not home to supervise. She's been notified of the problem however decided to not do anything about it and not care about neighbors. We had a neighbor before in CA and our dog did not make any noises at all and the dog would go off on him.

cbmerl 12-04-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2036060)
Call animal control if you have an issue. It's what they are there for after all. I would suggest you take your dog for a walk....they have four legs just for that purpose.

As for your villa...hmmm...don't they have pretty high fences between them. How would the other dog know unless your dog is making noise that attracts it???

Wow...Snarky!!

yankygrl 12-04-2021 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cbmerl (Post 2036553)
Wow...Snarky!!

#39
Not snarky, just a question...


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