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EdFNJ 12-05-2021 06:07 PM

Golf Cart turn signals (blinkers NOT hands signals). Outlaw them completely.
 
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

Altavia 12-05-2021 06:15 PM

Good point. That's why I got self cancelling.

Mleeja 12-05-2021 06:21 PM

Not to blame our seasonal residents, but I have seen a lot more carts driving with their signals on as our seasonal resident population has increased. They 1) do not realize the signals are not self-cancelling, 2) cannot hear the signal beeping over the cart motor. What surprises me are the number of “younger” drivers driving with the signal on. I am not talking about teenagers…

fdpaq0580 12-05-2021 06:39 PM

Agree.
 
Golf cart blinkers are a nice idea that hasn't made the grade. They are typically non-cancelling, tiny after thoughts that transmit a dangerous lie to those waiting to see if the cart is really going to turn or not.
I never pull out in front of an approaching cart, blinker or not. They absolutely cannot be trusted. Sorry, ****ed off driver behind me honking. I will not let you try to intimidate me into a potential accident, and shame on you for ever thinking you have the right to do so.

EdFNJ 12-05-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2037013)
Sorry, ****ed off driver behind me honking. I will not let you try to intimidate me into a potential accident, and shame on you for ever thinking you have the right to do so.

Exactly what happens. I am always tempted to wave them by and then let them get waffled. :D

EdFNJ 12-05-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 2037009)
Not to blame our seasonal residents, but I have seen a lot more carts driving with their signals on as our seasonal resident population has increased.

For us, and since we walk every day, it is just as bad all year but the best chuckle is when you see a group of 3 all with "forever signals." on trucking down the MMP. :)

Garywt 12-05-2021 07:06 PM

We have self cancelling on one cart and lights in front of our face blinking on the other cart to remind us to turn them off. When pulling out I always figure people are going straight so I wait.

Bilyclub 12-05-2021 07:14 PM

I don't ever trust turn signals on any vehicle until I see them actually commit to turning. Also the self canceling mechanism for signals on carts are finicky and sometimes need to be adjusted or replaced.

jchase 12-05-2021 08:05 PM

Wine wine wine

TSO/ISPF 12-05-2021 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2037024)
I don't ever trust turn signals on any vehicle until I see them actually commit to turning. Also the self canceling mechanism for signals on carts are finicky and sometimes need to be adjusted or replaced.

ABSOLUTELY! If you are at all familiar with the villages, give golf carts a wide birth and just give them a break if you're in a car or another golf cart.
If in doubt, wait it out! There should be some legal requirements for people selling golf carts for the Villages to have signals that are too obvious to leave on after the turn. Our cart has lights in the side mirrors that don't always suffice. After a few hundred more hours behind the wheel of the cart I might always remember to turn it off after the turn.

:welcome:

Papa_lecki 12-05-2021 08:23 PM

This is some major first world problems.

TSO/ISPF 12-05-2021 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2037032)
This is some major first world problems.

Yea. Especially if you get hit by a Mack Truck.

fdpaq0580 12-05-2021 08:29 PM

Who sang that?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jchase (Post 2037029)
Wine wine wine

"You make me feel so fine. You keep me rocking all of the time".

EdFNJ 12-05-2021 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2037021)
We have self cancelling on one cart and lights in front of our face blinking on the other cart to remind us to turn them off. When pulling out I always figure people are going straight so I wait.

Self-cancel is great but are meaningless to resolve this issue because if many others never shut them off whether yours does or doesn't won't resolve the general problem.

EdFNJ 12-05-2021 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchase (Post 2037029)
Wine wine wine

LOL,you might want to check this out first before attemting to make an intelligent comment like that Homophones| Merriam-Webster. I assume you mean WHINE ... or maybe not because all that WINE can get you killed when driving. :1rotfl:

EdFNJ 12-05-2021 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2037032)
This is some major first world problems.

Yea, especially when you pull out of a street in a cart OR a car because you see a cart coming down the diamond lane with it's right turn signal on but then goes straight without turning. You might find that to be a problem no matter what world you may live in.

thevillages2013 12-06-2021 06:05 AM

Well ,OP everything you said is true but there really is no solution. It’s very similar to turn signals being used in roundabouts. If you trust them you are an idiot so why do people even use them. At least 25% don’t use them properly and besides if you are in the correct lane for your exit all should flow properly

DrBrutyle109 12-06-2021 06:33 AM

Where are you going in such a hurry, you can’t wait for a cart to go buy?

DIver0258 12-06-2021 06:34 AM

Turn Signals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

Great thought, we have self canceling turn signals on one cart and I am currently retrofitting the other with self canceling signals.

William MacEntee 12-06-2021 06:40 AM

Bill
 
I bought turn signal beepers at the Village’s golf cart store for 7 or 8 dollars each and installed them myself. They are so load and annoying one must turn off the signal to silence them.

noslices1 12-06-2021 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchase (Post 2037029)
Wine wine wine

Did you mean, “Whine, whine, whine”? If not, I’d like come Cabernet.

xcaligirl 12-06-2021 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

It's not the turn signals fault, it's the drivers. They should be 'cancelled'. If they don't know to turn them off as soon as they make the turn, they shouldn't be driving. My turn signals make noise (which I at first thought was annoying) and a light inside that flashes when they are on. Too many people on the road who can't see or hear or remember the signal is still on.

Mikee1 12-06-2021 06:58 AM

About 22 1/2 years ago I made several posts about turn signal flashers for golf carts that beep loudly when on. They are $10.00 or less on Amazon. They are so annoying you will be glad to turn the signal off after the turn. If everyone got one of these, it would greatly reduce this issue.

Judy n Ron 12-06-2021 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

Not sure how it's any different than the drivers riding their blinkers while in their on road vehicles or not paying attention to right of way at 2 and 4 way stops. Assume "the other guy" will not do the right thing and drive accordingly. Simple!

notme6w 12-06-2021 07:26 AM

No different then for villagers that drive cars as you never know if they are really going to turn or not - I assume that they may not and thus wait till they commit one way or the other

Petersweeney 12-06-2021 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchase (Post 2037029)
Wine wine wine

Beer beer beer

jimkerr 12-06-2021 07:30 AM

This is really petty.

larcha 12-06-2021 07:36 AM

As bad as "blinkers" are, at least you can see them after dark. Self-canceling helps but there will always be exceptions. Being attentive is the best approach.

rsmurano 12-06-2021 07:37 AM

This is true with cars too. How many cars have their right hand turn signals on and instead of turning they go straight. I like turn signals on both golf carts and cars and I will always wait until the car/cart coming toward me slows down before I trust them

srswans 12-06-2021 07:46 AM

Cars Too
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.



Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

I’ve had the same thought about cars. Not enough drivers use them and, as you noted, sometime the signal is left on or turned on too early. Simply ban all turn signaling devices on moving vehicles.

bgnn54 12-06-2021 07:47 AM

Turn signals ? Do they have them in Florida ?

sjeffries 12-06-2021 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."


Knowing that blinker signals are not trustworthy, simply DO NOT pull out in front of one unless you have plenty of distance to do so. Who cares if you have to wait an additional 20 seconds?

You can’t control what other drivers do. Assume they are not paying attention and YOU will drive defensively!

mkjelenbaas 12-06-2021 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

Your “imperial” science is questionable- plus thank you for telling me what to and how to drive!!

DonH57 12-06-2021 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2037035)
"You make me feel so fine. You keep me rocking all of the time".

I believe it's sung by UB40 !:)

PaulBishopGenius 12-06-2021 08:09 AM

I Wonder...
 
...if this is a problem for the roadways or the golf courses. I feel more anxious while golfing for some reason.

KYtoTV2021 12-06-2021 08:14 AM

Better yet........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

If Yamaha made turn signals that automatically went off after the turn was made (like cars/trucks), this would solve 99% of the problem.

rstebbins 12-06-2021 08:15 AM

Golf Cart Signals
 
I think the newer carts have self-canceling. I also understand that if you pull out in front of a vehicle (because you thought they were turning) you are at fault, not the vehicle with the turn signal on that did not turn. As said above, never proceed into the intersection until the vehicle with the turn signal on has committed to the turn. Otherwise, you will be at fault for the accident. (This is true in Michigan - Maybe Florida is different)

KYtoTV2021 12-06-2021 08:18 AM

????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037054)
Self-cancel is great but are meaningless to resolve this issue because if many others never shut them off whether yours does or doesn't won't resolve the general problem.

I'll bet that 99% of the "forever" signals are simply because drivers did not cancel after making a turn. No on turns on the blinker for no reason. Self-canceling turn signals would solve 99% of the issue...........and 1% of automobiles have this issue as well.

JMintzer 12-06-2021 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 2037124)
I believe it's sung by UB40 !:)

That's "Red Red Wine"... (but Neil Diamond sang it first...)

MrFlorida 12-06-2021 08:25 AM

This happened to me in my car, guy had directional on, I pulled out, he hit me.....He was turning at the NEXT street, not where I was. That was years ago, since then I never trust a directional, I'll wait until they either turn or pass..... same goes for golf carts.


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