Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, General Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/)
-   -   Golf cart access (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/golf-cart-access-327276/)

me4vt 12-15-2021 02:19 PM

Golf cart access
 
I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

ElDiabloJoe 12-15-2021 02:36 PM

I'm'a gonna go out on a limb here with some thoughts. They are not necessarily the Developer's thoughts, or others here. In fact, they probably aren't.

The entire point of The Villages, including all the golf courses, and all the amenities, is very simple. To make money, primarily by selling houses. The Villages is owned by a family in the business of real estate development.

EVERYthing else they do, EVERYthing, is to make their development more attractive so it sells for as much as they can get. That is the entire point of the exercise, IMHO.

That being said, why on earth would they make neighboring (and competing) developments more attractive by allowing them access to amenities The Villages planned, built, and paid for? I assume that's why they do not allow non-resident / non-employees to utilize their highly ranked schools either. The $50/month or any other "non-resident access" fee would take forever and many many users to offset the thousands in profits of selling someone a house instead.

I'd be interested to hear other peoples' thoughts on the topic.

kathyspear 12-15-2021 02:42 PM

I'm sure the business owners in TV would love it, as would the developers of the other communities. They would be able to sell their homes as being comparable to TV homes but less expensive " ... and for just $50 a year you can have golf cart access TV." Our developer, however, is not likely to do anything that might convince a prospective home buyer to choose a less expensive home outside The Villages. Personally, it wouldn't bother me at all but I'm sure many of our friends here on the forum feel differently.

kathy

Bill14564 12-15-2021 03:02 PM

What would a Golf Cart Pass do? The only way a golf cart pass would make any sense is if there were golf-cart-only gates that led out of the Villages to surrounding neighborhoods. The only one I am aware of currently is up in the historic section.

That gate in the historic section works with the same card that opens all the vehicle gates. In other threads you can find someone to clone one of those cards for about $30. If more golf cart gates were added using the same cards then it is highly likely the clones would pull in far more money than official Villages passes.

On the other hand, if a separate pass system was created for just the golf cart gates then there would be a need to carry two cards, one for the external gates and one for the internal gates. This would cause confusion since the cards would likely look the same. Plus, there is little to keep someone from cloning and selling the second set of cards as well and again, not much income for the Villages.

What would be the appeal to allowing neighboring golf carts into the Villages anyway? The fun of exploring the MMPs? The convenience of golf carting rather than driving? More available parking? Easier access to pools and rec centers? All of these are part of what I believe I am paying for with my amenity fee. Why would the residents, the CDD, or the developer want to allow non-Villagers access to what I have to pay for? Sure, just because they can get their golf cart to a pool doesn't mean they are allowed to use the pool, but there would be some number who would try it until they got caught (if ever).

MrFlorida 12-15-2021 03:20 PM

Making the Villages overrun with out of area golf carts is not a good idea for those of us who live here.

Bogie Shooter 12-15-2021 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039864)
I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

“I’m new here to the area.”
Does this mean you don’t live in The Villages??

Kenswing 12-15-2021 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039864)
I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

Just curious, what was your former username?

dewilson58 12-15-2021 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2039899)
Just curious, what was your former username?

:bigbow:

dewilson58 12-15-2021 03:43 PM

[QUOTE=me4vt;2039864Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.[/QUOTE]

Doubt the developer is going to give up a $50,000 house/lot premium, plus profit, within The Villages for $50 so another developer can profit.

:wave:

ElDiabloJoe 12-15-2021 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039913)
Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

I'm not saying this is the case, but this post sure makes one suspect esteem, jealousy, and self-value issues. Pointing it out to a friend, that's all.

dewilson58 12-15-2021 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039913)
Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

tophcfa 12-15-2021 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039864)
I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

NFW, very bad idea.

JSR22 12-15-2021 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2039918)
Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

You are 100% correct. A wannabe who wants access to our amenities. My guess the poster lives in Stonecrest and his login was Another Steve.

CWGUY 12-15-2021 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2039903)
Doubt the developer is going to give up a $50,000 house/lot premium, plus profit, within The Villages for $50 so another developer can profit.

:wave:

:icon_wink: Let's remember the Developer does NOT sell gate cards...... just The District and twoplanekid. :popcorn:

CFrance 12-15-2021 05:00 PM

I'm confused. How would those golf carts get to TV cart paths? They can't legally drive on any of the roads that lead into TV. Amiright?

JSR22 12-15-2021 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2039933)
I'm confused. How would those golf carts get to TV cart paths? They can't legally drive on any of the roads that lead into TV. Amiright?

They are coming from Stonecrest through the gate on the historic side with cloned cards.

VApeople 12-15-2021 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039913)
People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People!

Do you think any of us care why you "chose not to be affiliated with the Village People!"?

Bilyclub 12-15-2021 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039913)
Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

Yet, you just joined TOTY. Unless this is just a new name for a regular Village hater. Go away.

Papa_lecki 12-15-2021 05:47 PM

We all know this is click bait and yet we jump in. Guy has 2 posts.

Speedie 12-15-2021 06:22 PM

///

Speedie 12-15-2021 06:23 PM

///

Bogie Shooter 12-15-2021 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039913)
Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

Did you feel the welcome mat being pulled from under your feet??

Suggest you sign up for the social media in the wonderful place you live. What, you don’t have one for all those desirable people?

BigSteph 12-15-2021 07:02 PM

Dazed and Confused
 
As a person who pays monthly and yearly fees to live in The Villages, I don't think it would be fair see someone have the same access for a small yearly token fee.

If I didn't live in The Villages, I'd be all for a small fee to ride far and wide on a golf cart in The Villages. I might bring my sand wedge and a putter and give those wee courses a try -- why not, I look like everyone else, who would ask. A dip in pool might be fine, too, I mean, if someone asked, I say I left my card at home in, uh..., The Village of Tall Trees, yeah, that's the ticket. If asked to leave, I've got a hundred more to try.

No not everyone on a golf cart from the outside would be a grifter, but I suspect we'd see a few.

The house next to mine cost just over 275k, and the house on the other side cost a little over 700k. There is a decent mix of snobs and average Joes here. There is no need to assail us all. At the town squares we all look equally awkward dancing.

I saw GoldWingNut's video today and heard him declare that there were 2 MM tunnels at the new high school. I thought, damn, high schoolers cruising in carts -- that'll be super safe. Now people outside the villages want access. Maybe it will be safer in my car on the roundabouts!



Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039864)
I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.


dewilson58 12-15-2021 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 2039928)
:icon_wink: Let's remember the Developer does NOT sell gate cards...... just The District and twoplanekid. :popcorn:

Absolutely, the OP was posing the question as the Villages............jus responding to.

Marathon Man 12-15-2021 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2039918)
Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

:clap2:

Eg_cruz 12-16-2021 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039864)
I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

Why would they paid for something they can do for free

Luggage 12-16-2021 05:45 AM

Comment should be about the post, not the person

thevillages2013 12-16-2021 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2039933)
I'm confused. How would those golf carts get to TV cart paths? They can't legally drive on any of the roads that lead into TV. Amiright?

You took the words right out of my mouth👍

NoMo50 12-16-2021 06:23 AM

Short answer...No. Long answer...@&!& No.

maggie1 12-16-2021 06:50 AM

Snobs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039913)
Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

And there you are - the reason for your post. I was going to add my 2 cents worth by mentioning the increase in traffic in an already congested venue, but I'll save my breath to cool my soup. This is the very first time I've ever been thought of as a snob just because we live here. Oh well, sticks and stones.

Traveling lady 12-16-2021 07:29 AM

Cloned Gate Cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2039878)
What would a Golf Cart Pass do? The only way a golf cart pass would make any sense is if there were golf-cart-only gates that led out of the Villages to surrounding neighborhoods. The only one I am aware of currently is up in the historic section.

That gate in the historic section works with the same card that opens all the vehicle gates. In other threads you can find someone to clone one of those cards for about $30. If more golf cart gates were added using the same cards then it is highly likely the clones would pull in far more money than official Villages passes.

On the other hand, if a separate pass system was created for just the golf cart gates then there would be a need to carry two cards, one for the external gates and one for the internal gates. This would cause confusion since the cards would likely look the same. Plus, there is little to keep someone from cloning and selling the second set of cards as well and again, not much income for the Villages.

What would be the appeal to allowing neighboring golf carts into the Villages anyway? The fun of exploring the MMPs? The convenience of golf carting rather than driving? More available parking? Easier access to pools and rec centers? All of these are part of what I believe I am paying for with my amenity fee. Why would the residents, the CDD, or the developer want to allow non-Villagers access to what I have to pay for? Sure, just because they can get their golf cart to a pool doesn't mean they are allowed to use the pool, but there would be some number who would try it until they got caught (if ever).

In order to clone a card, you must have a valid card. This valid card is used to set up your clone.

Don5154 12-16-2021 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039913)
Number one, money wasn’t the issue for sure! People’s attitude outside of the Village are the reason we chose not to be affiliated with the Village People! The Villages is just a copy of the Snobs in Hilton Head! I’d like to think only maybe 35% of the people in the Villages are living above their up bringing thinking they’re better than others🥴

If you hate Villages people so much, why would you want access to TV golf cart trails ? :bigbow:

Sandy and Ed 12-16-2021 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2039864)
I’m new here to the area and have a suggestion that may have been discussed in the past. Have the Villages ever thought of selling Golf Cart Passes to the neighboring communities? It would pretty much be a Win Win program for all involved. The Villages would have a nice cash flow yearly and neighboring communities would have access to all of The Villages Golf Cart trails and business. Which in turn generates tax dollars and extra monies within the Villages. Again, this may have already been proposed in the past but, maybe the turnover of New residents over the years might make this possible. Just thinking like $50.00 a year for an access Pass from the neighboring communities. Thanks for Your time.

Hmm. Let me get this straight. You want to give someone who is not paying the Villages taxes and amenity fees relatively inexpensive access to our community while we foot the bill? Use the infrastructure our bond payments created? Well there is a better idea……put down your dime and buy or rent within our community instead of being a freeloading opportunist. Enjoy your residence in this fabulous community and don’t worry about creating oddball income streams for the developers.

phousel 12-16-2021 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2039918)
Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

👍😆😆😆

Sandy and Ed 12-16-2021 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz (Post 2040032)
Why would they paid for something they can do for free

Sure. Why pay your money for something you can use OPM (other people’s money) to buy. In other words why not just be a lowlife freeloader?? I don’t know.. maybe because it is classless and isn’t nice to do to a fellow human being?? Come on guy??

gwenhwalker@yahoo.com 12-16-2021 08:09 AM

We have enough traffic already without inviting other communities to add to the confusion

richs631 12-16-2021 08:15 AM

Why would anyone buy a golf cart pass. The main roads are public and the golf cart path is not monitored

toeser 12-16-2021 08:28 AM

Why would we do anything that would increase congestion and use of our trails and facilities? No thanks.

Vermilion Villager 12-16-2021 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2039918)
Let me see if I'm following you:
You don't like most Villagers.
You decided not to live here.
Money was not the issue.
But you want to pay $50/yr to be with the Villagers.
& you hang out on ToTV to communicate with the Villagers.

Am I close??

I'm thinking....BULLSEYE!!!!!!:bigbow:

Bilyclub 12-16-2021 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2040033)
Comment should be about the post, not the person

Nope, the OP crossed the line with their second comment and will get roasted accordingly.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:56 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.