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Chellybean 12-17-2021 11:21 AM

Texting and driving Bicycle Accident
 
Folk's Pay attention on the road and do not text and drive.
A bicycle was hit yesterday around 2;30pm on Buena Vista, going north before El Camino drive, on Buena Vista.
It was obvious the driver was not paying attention to driving.
After she hit the bicyclist she turned left sharply and almost rolled her vehicle, hit the curb blew out the front left tire on her SUV and ended up on the medium and almost went into oncoming traffic that was going south.
This guy was lucky not to be killed!!!!!

Bjeanj 12-17-2021 12:04 PM

Holy smokes! I don’t see any evidence of somebody texting and driving, but whether they did or not, that bicyclist is lucky to be alive.

Chellybean 12-17-2021 12:58 PM

My understanding is that she admitted it to the cops and she was also ticketed. Thats what a first responders said
, but who knows what the driver was really doing, but it is clear she was not paying attention!

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-17-2021 01:52 PM

She shouldn't have just gotten a ticket. She should've gotten arrested. Doing something stupid that can get you a ticket is just doing something stupid that can get you a ticket. But once that stupid thing causes harm to someone else, it's an actual crime, not just a traffic violation.

Hape2Bhr 12-17-2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2040664)
She shouldn't have just gotten a ticket. She should've gotten arrested. Doing something stupid that can get you a ticket is just doing something stupid that can get you a ticket. But once that stupid thing causes harm to someone else, it's an actual crime, not just a traffic violation.

And sounds like more than $950 in damage that can get you arrested in California.

Bilyclub 12-17-2021 02:50 PM

I'm sure that the online rag will have more and better information than the hearsay on here.

tophcfa 12-17-2021 03:27 PM

I would feel less at risk being on the road with a bunch of drivers leaving happy hour than a bunch of high schoolers getting out of school and driving with phones in hand.

DAVES 12-17-2021 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2040675)
I would feel less at risk being on the road with a bunch of drivers leaving happy hour than a bunch of high schoolers getting out of school and driving with phones in hand.

Nothing says either was a high schooler. Neither texting and driving, or drinking and driving are legal or smart.

I regularly object to the term accident. Most accidents can be avoided. Thus, most accidents are one or several people acting stupidly.

EdFNJ 12-17-2021 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2040614)
Folk's Pay attention on the road and do not text and drive.
A bicycle was hit yesterday around 2;30pm on Buena Vista, going north before El Camino drive, on Buena Vista.
It was obvious the driver was not paying attention to driving.
After she hit the bicyclist she turned left sharply and almost rolled her vehicle, hit the curb blew out the front left tire on her SUV and ended up on the medium and almost went into oncoming traffic that was going south.
This guy was lucky not to be killed!!!!!

How do you know it wasn't the bicyclist "not paying attention" and cut off the car. Sometimes "looks" can be deceiving. It wouldn't be the first bike rider to be the cause an accident. I doubt the first responder (that you stopped and talked to?) was a witness. Point is, unless one reads the accident report no one knows. Can't imagine anyone saying to a cop "I wasn't paying attention because I was busy texting and this bike guy just suddenly was there." Please give me a ticket because I'm dumb." Of course that is possible around here. :)

Flyers999 12-17-2021 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2040670)
I'm sure that the online rag will have more and better information than the hearsay on here.

I have a tendency to believe the heresay from posters here, rather than the news media. If a story doesn't fit their narrative then they twist it until it does, or they just don't report it at all.

Bilyclub 12-17-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyers999 (Post 2040739)
I have a tendency to believe the heresay from posters here, rather than the news media. If a story doesn't fit their narrative then they twist it until it does, or they just don't report it at all.

The online rag will have a copy of the accident report which will be the final word, unless there is a trial.

Dana1963 12-17-2021 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2040670)
I'm sure that the online rag will have more and better information than the hearsay on here.

I thought this is the online rag at times

jswirs 12-18-2021 05:53 AM

[QUOTE=Flyers999;2040739]I have a tendency to believe the heresay from posters here, rather than the news media. If a story doesn't fit their narrative then they twist it until it does, or they just don't report it at all.[/QUOTE
And that statement, my friends, applies to ALL media reporting, including the reporting on Covid.

Windguy 12-18-2021 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyers999 (Post 2040739)
I have a tendency to believe the heresay from posters here, rather than the news media. If a story doesn't fit their narrative then they twist it until it does, or they just don't report it at all.

Isn’t that also true of posters?

DaleDivine 12-18-2021 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2040781)
I thought this is the online rag at times

:bigbow::bigbow::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Blackbird45 12-18-2021 08:10 AM

Can't do things at once
 
Look there are many examples on YouTube of people walking and talking on their cell phones and having accidents.

They're funny, but behind the wheel of a car it's downright dangerous and texting is even worst.

Some states have made it illegal to be on the phone while driving.

My car has the ability to accept calls and will also read out loud in coming text and even that can sometimes be distracting.

ThirdOfFive 12-18-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2040682)
Nothing says either was a high schooler. Neither texting and driving, or drinking and driving are legal or smart.

I regularly object to the term accident. Most accidents can be avoided. Thus, most accidents are one or several people acting stupidly.

Wholeheartedly agree.

A meteorite hitting your car is an accident. Your car striking another object, be it a pedestrian, bicyclist, another car, or whatever because your attention was focused somewhere else at the time is NOT.

Beplion 12-18-2021 08:37 AM

But not if you steal from retailers!! If caught, back on the street, no bond

airstreamingypsy 12-18-2021 08:45 AM

I was driving south on Buena Vista at around 12:30pm, when a Toyota Tundra truck came up fast on my butt and somehow weaved between me and the car to my left, and floored it. I saw this headline and assumed I would be reading about that idiot. Last I saw it was weaving in and out in heavy traffic, flying up behind cars and slamming on the brakes. It's scary out there, I wouldn't dare ride a bike.

collie1228 12-18-2021 09:34 AM

As far as I know, Buena Vista (unlike Morse Blvd) has an available multimode trail available to bicyclists its entire length. I ride almost daily, and can't imagine why anyone would want to risk life and limb by driving on the road there. The speed limit is merely a recommendation, as it isn't enforced with any regularity. No excuse for the idiot driver, but c'mon riders - why put yourself at such a risk?

charlieo1126@gmail.com 12-18-2021 09:47 AM

I feel safer on the roads then I do sharing the paths with golf carts and that includes streets in Boston , and at 83 still not had an accident in.a car or a bike

BlackhawksFan 12-18-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2040614)
Folk's Pay attention on the road and do not text and drive.
A bicycle was hit yesterday around 2;30pm on Buena Vista, going north before El Camino drive, on Buena Vista.
It was obvious the driver was not paying attention to driving.
After she hit the bicyclist she turned left sharply and almost rolled her vehicle, hit the curb blew out the front left tire on her SUV and ended up on the medium and almost went into oncoming traffic that was going south.
This guy was lucky not to be killed!!!!!

With technology today you can do this without even looking at your phone. I drove home from Ocala last weekend, had an entire convo via text and didn't look at or touch my phone once. It's all done through a button on my steering wheel and via voice on either Android Auto or Apple Car Play.

xcaligirl 12-18-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2040614)
Folk's Pay attention on the road and do not text and drive.
A bicycle was hit yesterday around 2;30pm on Buena Vista, going north before El Camino drive, on Buena Vista.
It was obvious the driver was not paying attention to driving.
After she hit the bicyclist she turned left sharply and almost rolled her vehicle, hit the curb blew out the front left tire on her SUV and ended up on the medium and almost went into oncoming traffic that was going south.
This guy was lucky not to be killed!!!!!

The cyclist was very lucky! Drivers do not realize it only takes a second to look at the phone for something ro happen.And being 'older', it takes longer than a second to look at their phones. I had my phone set up before to read the texts to me however I rather turn my phone off while driving.

jfkilduff 12-18-2021 11:35 AM

Maybe the biker should have been on a/the BIKE PATH

Bill14564 12-18-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jfkilduff (Post 2040948)
Maybe the biker should have been on a/the BIKE PATH

I don't believe there is such a thing as a BIKE PATH along Buena Vista. There is a MMP that bicyclists are allowed to use but it is not a designated BIKE PATH.

Bicyclists can legally ride on Buena Vista. Like it or not, believe it is a good idea or not, think that you would do it or not, bicyclists can legally ride on Buena Vista. If I was out for anything other than a casual ride I would use the roads to avoid golf carts, turns, and multiple stops. Bicyclists should be able to do this without the fear that an inattentive driver will run into them.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 12-18-2021 11:48 AM

See post 21and also we have the same rights as cars do on roads

Blackbird45 12-18-2021 01:30 PM

Avoid the pain
 
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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2040953)
See post 21and also we have the same rights as cars do on roads

You are absolutely correct you have a legal right to be on the road.
The problem is if some joker in a car puts you in the hospital.
I rather play it safe than being right.

wisbad1 12-18-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2040635)
Holy smokes! I don’t see any evidence of somebody texting and driving, but whether they did or not, that bicyclist is lucky to be alive.

Yes, riding a bike and texting is dangerous!

asianthree 12-18-2021 08:33 PM

If I am in my car, I have voice to text. All text are spoken thru my radio. It’s been years since I have used thumbs to send a text, even if I am not in my cars. Maybe voice to text is a younger gen thing.

Michael G. 12-18-2021 08:46 PM

Officers can easily check your phone records if you're in an accident and texting.

camaguey48 12-19-2021 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2040668)
And sounds like more than $950 in damage that can get you arrested in California.

Please don't mention California. Please!!!!!

charlieo1126@gmail.com 12-19-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2041078)
If I am in my car, I have voice to text. All text are spoken thru my radio. It’s been years since I have used thumbs to send a text, even if I am not in my cars. Maybe voice to text is a younger gen thing.

I know there’s something on my car that does that but why would you want to text in car , does the incoming text come in by voice or would you have to read it , which to me seems unsafe. I just call people if I need to talk.

Chellybean 12-21-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2040675)
I would feel less at risk being on the road with a bunch of drivers leaving happy hour than a bunch of high schoolers getting out of school and driving with phones in hand.

HMMMMM personally i don't think either is a good mix!

Chellybean 12-21-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2041081)
Officers can easily check your phone records if you're in an accident and texting.

Not unless its a fatality i believe, An officer can not just access your phone records without a order from a judge i believe. Lets see how much trouble this comment starts

asianthree 12-21-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2041210)
I know there’s something on my car that does that but why would you want to text in car , does the incoming text come in by voice or would you have to read it , which to me seems unsafe. I just call people if I need to talk.

Voice to text/text to voice works just as stated. All my calls, texts, emails are voice from my navigation screen. My radio announces income call, text, email, do I want to listen. It’s a yes no response.

I can ask For driving directions, respond to any text or send new, just by using voice command. Many states have laws against physically picking up a phone. My phone when I am in my car can only be answered using voice commands. It’s been over 6 years that my cars have had that ability. Even when I am home It’s faster to voice text on my phone. All of my contacts are available by just saying a name, then text, or email. As I said it a generation thing

I can also ask when is the next gas station, and price, or a hotel on my route.

Tbrazie 12-21-2021 02:50 PM

Bike cutting off a car????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2040725)
How do you know it wasn't the bicyclist "not paying attention" and cut off the car. Sometimes "looks" can be deceiving. It wouldn't be the first bike rider to be the cause an accident. I doubt the first responder (that you stopped and talked to?) was a witness. Point is, unless one reads the accident report no one knows. Can't imagine anyone saying to a cop "I wasn't paying attention because I was busy texting and this bike guy just suddenly was there." Please give me a ticket because I'm dumb." Of course that is possible around here. :)

Seriously? Bikes have the same rights on the road as cars. I have never seen or even heard of a bike cutting off a car. More likely is that ignorant drivers don’t know the have to yield to the bike in front of them. Always. I had a driver honk and curse me for being in the road legally turning left with signaling when they came roaring up behind me from over a block away. I was stopped to allow the oncoming golf cart to pass before turning onto my street. I clearly had the right of way. Such ignorance

Bill14564 12-21-2021 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tbrazie (Post 2041851)
Seriously? Bikes have the same rights on the road as cars. I have never seen or even heard of a bike cutting off a car. More likely is that ignorant drivers don’t know the have to yield to the bike in front of them. Always. I had a driver honk and curse me for being in the road legally turning left with signaling when they came roaring up behind me from over a block away. I was stopped to allow the oncoming golf cart to pass before turning onto my street. I clearly had the right of way. Such ignorance

Inattentive and ignorant bikers exist too; natural selection keeps the number low but they do exist.

Since you say you have never heard of a bike cutting off a car, here's an example for you. A young cousin and his friend played a "game" where they would cut off cars in order to hear them lock up their brakes. The friend played it one time too many and is no longer around. Stupid and certainly not typical but it does happen.

If you have read these threads long enough you will have seen examples of bicycles not stopping at stop signs and not yielding to vehicles already in the circles. Stupid and not common but it does happen.

This case probably was due to an inattentive driver, but it is not beyond the realm of possibility that the bicyclist was at fault.

CoachKandSportsguy 12-21-2021 04:25 PM

Past performance doesn't guarantee future success
 
Past performance doesn't guarantee future success

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2040898)
I feel safer on the roads then I do sharing the paths with golf carts and that includes streets in Boston , and at 83 still not had an accident in.a car or a bike

the future is uncertain, more uncertain at times than at other times. .
one of those more uncertain times is riding a bike anywhere in the villages.

good luck as we all need it here

EdFNJ 12-21-2021 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbrazie (Post 2041851)
Seriously? Bikes have the same rights on the road as cars. I have never seen or even heard of a bike cutting off a car.

LOL, Well seriously my man (or lady), yeaaaaa. Does your experience mean no one else has ever seen that happen ? Amazing how some people manage to speak for EVERYONE. Do you have special abilities to see through everyone's eyes? Evidently not through mine because you most definitely were not walking down O'Dell Circle near Mallory CC a few weeks ago around 9AM when the clever biker made a fast left turn from the diamond land onto Mt Croghan and obviously didn't see the car 2 or 3 lengths behind and to the left of him. Obviously you are a biker who never makes mistakes but he wasn't. Yea, seriously. :1rotfl:

charlieo1126@gmail.com 12-21-2021 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2041850)
Voice to text/text to voice works just as stated. All my calls, texts, emails are voice from my navigation screen. My radio announces income call, text, email, do I want to listen. It’s a yes no response.

I can ask For driving directions, respond to any text or send new, just by using voice command. Many states have laws against physically picking up a phone. My phone when I am in my car can only be answered using voice commands. It’s been over 6 years that my cars have had that ability. Even when I am home It’s faster to voice text on my phone. All of my contacts are available by just saying a name, then text, or email. As I said it a generation thing

I can also ask when is the next gas station, and price, or a hotel on my route.

I know all that and had it on the last car and my new one I see text come in but not by voice but I wouldn’t respond anyway I don’t talk much on phone when driving and voice text would drive me crazy


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