Supreme Court Strikes Down OSHA Covid Vaccination Mandate
 

At least for now the separate mandate for healthcare workers remains in place.

Considering you must be Vaccinated, masked and receive a negative Covid test to enter the Supreme Court.
They care only about themselves!

Mandates be damned!

Sure.....keep the health care workers protected with vaccine mandates. We need them to take care of those people who refuse vaccination and wind up hospitalized.

Healthcare workers should have a choice. After all they worked without proper PPE. Survival for more than a year before vaccine, facilities furloughed staff leaving a massive shortage. Some who worked, and became ill, made them use vacation time.

Many resigned, or took retirement, if their facilities demanded to be vaccinated. The government can now thin the herd, little more.

They do have a choice. They can get a vaccine or they can find another job. The healthcare worker mandate refers only to facilities that treat medicare and medicaid patients. If you are a health care worker in a facility that doesn't accept either of them, you're not obligated by law to vaccinate. Your boss might require it as a condition of employment anyway though and that would be his/her right as a business owner.

Supreme Court Strikes Down OSHA Covid Vaccination Mandate

Was that verdict ever in doubt?

When I'm feeling that way, sh^t happens.............so I was concerned.

My small brain that it was crazy, crazy OSHA over-reach.

As you said, "many resigned or took retirement". THAT was their choice. Choices have consequences.

Smh……the vax does not stop you from getting, spreading and ending up in hospital. My mom just lost a fully vax friend to Covid.

Was your Mom's friend boosted? Was your Mom's friend immunocompromised? If you are going to offer anecdotal information, it would be more significant if all the information were disclosed.

As an aside......I'm aware vaccinated die every day but are their deaths BECAUSE of Covid or WITH Covid? The data so overwhelmingly has shown that it is the UN-vaccinated who are hospitalized (something like 85% -90%) and are dying of Covid, not the vaccinated and boosted who have healthy immune systems. But.....I imagine you already knew that.

Probably not. Those that have some belief, no matter how bizarre, like the anti-vaxxers, will always find a way to reinforce their position, whether it be with like minded people or bogus internet sites. So, no, I imagine that person did not already know the facts.

Good!!

Trust me, a health care worker that decided to separate from their current job has WAY more options than someone sick requiring medical care in a setting short staffed for WHATEVER reason. Was It Ever About COVID? Hospitals Ask Infected Staff to Cut Sick Leave Short, Return to Work Amid Labor Shortage

I bet if it was the Ebola virus, they would have upheld the mandate. Now in the future, the federal government can’t try to protect its citizens if a real nasty like Ebola was to strike. I think the Supreme Court just allowed politics to enter its doors. Sad day.

As Jean Kirkpatrick once said
“You’re all entitled to your opinions, even if you’re wrong”
I haven’t been sick in 20 years. Why should I put something in my body to make YOU feel better. Last year the healthcare workers were hero’s, now you think they’re bad for making a choice that affects them. How hypocritical

Damned?
 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Never gonna make both sides of any issue happy.
Accept the rules of law as it stands, for the moment. Do your best to try and stay healthy and safe. Try not to get sucked into a debate where you know no one is going to change their mind, for said debate is destined to devolve to attempts at ridicule and belittling.

Good luck, all.

Don't know why you always dis on the unvaccinated, they are unvaccinated for personal reasons, everyone is different,....when vaccinated carry a higher viral load, so unvaccinated should be more afraid of you.... vaccinated can get AND transmit covid so what difference does it make? get your one hundred boosters that have been proven to not make a difference and move on with your life....

It's clear that the vaccinated spread the virus. At this point, it's everwhere. The best defense is eat healthy and stay as fit as possible. The virus has weakened so most all will be ok.

:bigbow:

BINGO on the "distraction" call. If history is repeated (and it does going way back regardless of which party is in power), their bag of tricks to distract is getting thin...war drums will be required to funnel funds and keep the public distracted just like these missing tests/treatments/options after already being funded and not provided.
Go back and review history, anytime the economy is in this kind of trouble, all of a sudden we seem to need to get worried/involved in some military action around the world. :( :( :(

No one in America - who get their news from television, is being told of the MASSIVE numbers of injured and dead from these "vaccines". Why do you think medical personnel have refused the shots? Couldn't be that they know the truth, could it? How about myocarditis in boys/young men, after jabs? Even The CDC, VAERS, WHO, many respected medical research findings, untold #s of doctors, and even the heads of Health Departments in some Countries..warning of injuries. Why then are draconian restrictions being exacted against we citizens.
"something ain't right".

Apparently you aren't seeing that the vaccinated are catching and spreading the current covid variant ... so this decision makes little sense to me.

What a horrible thing to wish upon another human being..

Totally agree!! Masks do NOT prevent you from getting Covid neither do vaccinations! I had all my vaccines including the booster and my flu shot and in spite of all I still got the Flu (Covid) which lasted a good 4-5 days on DayQuil and NyQuil. So my point leave health care alone and keep hospitals staffed and running! Government needs to keep their noses out of where they are not needed let the States run themselves

I guess in your world "give me your wallet or I'll shoot you in the head" is also a valid choice. You'd make a good nazi soldier.

Your support of them having choices is false logic and hypocritical if you take away their freedom of choice to "FORCE" another choice.

Spot on
 

You are spot on IMHO.

and then you realized that over 70% of those hospitalized for CV are vaxxed and over 50% in ICU are vaxxed per the latest stats out of Ontario and Alberta provinces in Canada. They track that stuff. It's unfortunate we do not, but then the gig would be up if we did.It's also unfortunate they mandated this for healthcare workers as they likely all have natural immunity.
(Link to Alberta stats: COVID-19 Alberta statistics | alberta.ca)

If the population wants vaccine mandates let Congress pass a law. It is NOT up to the Executive Branch.

Healthcare workers should not have a choice because if they don't get the vaccine, they could be jeopardizing the lives of patients. If anyone should get vaccinated, it should be first of all, healthcare workers.

Did you review the chart showing deaths and vaccine status? That shows a whole different story. Also, if you review the chart by age, it shows the people being hospitalized are overwhelmingly seniors. So, if you're old and don't get vaccinated, you're really putting yourself in danger.

Don't think he was wishing anything, just stating facts. Unvaxed are the ones dying and then weaken immune.....sad...but pretty much sums it up

I like wise laws with great attention to fairness. Some people paint with too wide a brush.

Some of these huge companies have employees who probably have little contact with other people. First responders, most nurses, some doctors and others would have many more opportunities to contact COVID.

Common sense often seems missing.

Unvaccinated are not the problem; no matter how many times that lie is repeated. The vaccinated do get infected and spread the virus just as much as the unvaccinated whether symptomatic or not. That is truth. That is science.

100% vaccinated cruise ship cancels cruise and returns. Tell me again how getting vaccinated allows you to take cruises and roam the planet without a mask.

Passengers stuck at sea after Norwegian cancels cruise mid-voyage | TheHill

Great! Now we don't have to pay our Federal taxes. No mandates, no rules, no laws....let's all go to the square nude to protest all mandates.

The more inclusive mandate COULD have given great protection against hospitalization, death, and hosts for further variants to 80 MILLION US citizens. SSSSOOOOO SAD!

My ex-favorite lady....R.B. Ginsberg. What was she thinking?

Debating is a centuries-old (maybe since anthropological time) method of conveying GOOD information and allowing the audience to learn and draw better conclusions than without debates. Socrates and early Greek states LOVED debates - it was a cornerstone for their early DEMOCRACIES. lincoln debated at a key point in US History.
.......The proof IS in THIS pudding........would a person rather live in a society with low or zero debates - aka a Dictatorship. Or a society that ENCOURAGES debates.....aka a Democracy. Be careful what you choose and wish for! Today, it is important!

Hymmm......??????

95% of medical Doctors and medical staff are FULLY vaccinated! ONE UN-vaccinated Doctor in Leesburg died of Covid. Funny how the anti-vaxxers use the term "jab" instead of vaccination. The term vaccination MUST frighten them! I find that hilarious. The former President IS fully vaccinated AND boosted.