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The Gazette 01-20-2022 11:35 PM

COVID Case Update
 
As most Villagers know, The Villages spans through three different counties. Here are the number of new COVID cases as of Jan. 20, according to the CDC website. In Lake County, there have been 6,412 new cases over the last week. 212 of those cases were admitted to the hospital, and 14 resulted in death.

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Wyseguy 01-21-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2051816)
As most Villagers know, The Villages spans through three different counties. Here are the number of new COVID cases as of Jan. 20, according to the CDC website. In Lake County, there have been 6,412 new cases over the last week. 212 of those cases were admitted to the hospital, and 14 resulted in death.

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With reports coming out showing how the numbers are vastly overstated, I am not concerned.

billethkid 01-21-2022 02:30 PM

Too many ad hoc reportings of cases, infections, positives, etc.
Credibility approaching zero.
No single, credible source.

Where does it reflect the same infection being reported every day as a new case until they get their negative?
No where.
The same infection resulting in multiple "cases" gets little or no attention.

Bill14564 01-21-2022 02:59 PM

I'm waiting for someone to claim that some of the 1,900 who are dying every day are actually dying several times in order to skew the statistics.

jaj523 01-21-2022 03:23 PM

Positive tests are not the same thing as illness.
 
Lots of people are testing positive when they are not sick at all. Most people who test positive are not sick at all. That number represents POSITIVE tests only, not people who are sick. Very misleading.

Swoop 01-21-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2051969)
I'm waiting for someone to claim that some of the 1,900 who are dying every day are actually dying several times in order to skew the statistics.

How is that possible… Over 75% of the US population has received at least one injection, yet 1,900/ day are dying with Covid. They must all be that unvaccinated 25%, right? At 1,900, the death rate is now higher than the pre vaccine average. So, more people are dying from Covid now that we have the vaccine, than before we had it… makes you wonder just how accurate the information we are getting is.

Bill14564 01-21-2022 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 2051978)
How is that possible… Over 75% of the US population has received at least one injection, yet 1,900/ day are dying with Covid. They must all be that unvaccinated 25%, right? At 1,900, the death rate is now higher than the pre vaccine average. So, more people are dying from Covid now that we have the vaccine, than before we had it… makes you wonder just how accurate the information we are getting is.

Simple answer is your numbers are wrong. But hey, don’t let that get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

Swoop 01-21-2022 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2051991)
Simple answer is your numbers are wrong. But hey, don’t let that get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

Really? What numbers are wrong? 75.9% of the US population have had at least one jab. 1,900 Covid deaths per day equates to 693,500 deaths per year, that’s double the number of deaths in 2020 or 2021. So I ask again, what numbers are wrong?!?

egmcaninch 01-22-2022 06:31 AM

COVID - Truth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2051816)
As most Villagers know, The Villages spans through three different counties. Here are the number of new COVID cases as of Jan. 20, according to the CDC website. In Lake County, there have been 6,412 new cases over the last week. 212 of those cases were admitted to the hospital, and 14 resulted in death.

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Politics and weird theories aside, how many deaths are acceptable? Loved ones & friends have died as a direct result of the COVID impact.

Black Beauty 01-22-2022 07:19 AM

fake news?

MDLNB 01-22-2022 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2051969)
I'm waiting for someone to claim that some of the 1,900 who are dying every day are actually dying several times in order to skew the statistics.


Most of them die WITH Covid, NOT because of Covid.

MDLNB 01-22-2022 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by egmcaninch (Post 2052063)
Politics and weird theories aside, how many deaths are acceptable? Loved ones & friends have died as a direct result of the COVID impact.


Yes, some HAVE died as a direct result of Covid, BUT some have died of the FLU in the past, car accidents, COPD, cancer, gun shot wounds, plane crashes, etc. Everyone dies. It's just a matter of time. Take precautions, but live life without fear. ALL deaths "are acceptable" because I can't change that from happening. Why allow fear to rule your life? Everyone only has a finite amount of time to live. How are you going to live that time, in fear?

Tcole 01-22-2022 07:56 AM

Yes, definitely a conspiracy. The numbers are inflated to scare you, but most folks in the villages have one upped the CDC. Everything is fine. Don’t wear a mask, mingle with friends, & have a great time!

While you are at it, spoil yourself, you’ve earned it with a life’s worth of work and dedication to the man. Buy yourself new furniture and even that new car!

(I love great estate sales!)

OhioBuckeye 01-22-2022 08:20 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
So my question is, is it a waste
of time getting all of these booster shots? Because it seems like Covid is getting worse not better. It’s getting to sound like a horror movie, not a cure!

MDLNB 01-22-2022 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2052113)
So my question is, is it a waste
of time getting all of these booster shots? Because it seems like Covid is getting worse not better. It’s getting to sound like a horror movie, not a cure!


But the placebo effect works wonders...........:a040:

Flyers999 01-22-2022 08:26 AM

Ok,but how many of them were villagers?

donassaid 01-22-2022 08:29 AM

Could we possibly have one Covid free discussion day on this forum? So tired of hearing this daily drumbeat of fear mongering over a virus that is survived by over 99%. Isn't it interesting that no one is hospitalized anymore or dies from the "regular flu"? And you don't hear anything about getting the flu shot. It is all Covid, Covid, Covid. Boister, booster, booster. Sick of hearing it. Try getting a life.

Marine1974 01-22-2022 08:50 AM

Numbers are understated, think about it , the numbers are understated because some people with Covid who have no symptoms do not get tested . Can you understand this ?

waterflower 01-22-2022 08:57 AM

The CDC recalled the PCR test in July-2021. Why would anyone ever listen to the govt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2051816)
As most Villagers know, The Villages spans through three different counties. Here are the number of new COVID cases as of Jan. 20, according to the CDC website. In Lake County, there have been 6,412 new cases over the last week. 212 of those cases were admitted to the hospital, and 14 resulted in death.

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The PCR test are false test.

MrFlorida 01-22-2022 09:01 AM

I'm getting immune to the covid reports.

Bill14564 01-22-2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2052123)
Could we possibly have one Covid free discussion day on this forum? So tired of hearing this daily drumbeat of fear mongering over a virus that is survived by over 99%. Isn't it interesting that no one is hospitalized anymore or dies from the "regular flu"? And you don't hear anything about getting the flu shot. It is all Covid, Covid, Covid. Boister, booster, booster. Sick of hearing it. Try getting a life.

They are hospitalized, they do die, and prior to flu season you did hear about the shots.

The reason you hear more about Covid is that Covid is killing nearly 20 times as many people. Many of today’s deaths are preventable with a simple shot.

Bill14564 01-22-2022 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by waterflower (Post 2052139)
The PCR test are false test.

The tests were not recalled and the results are not false.

Marine1974 01-22-2022 09:21 AM

Thanks for the update . These numbers are understated and new Covid cases are much higher because many people with Covid and no symptoms do not get tested and not counted . It’s concerning to hear people who don’t get vaccinated , speak out “Covid doesn’t exist , numbers of new cases are overstated and they are not concerned about it “ , once they contract Covid and become seriously Ill , most say they wished they had gotten vaccinated or maybe they pass on to a loved one who dies from Covid . Some will not admit they made a big mistake .

jbrown132 01-22-2022 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2052102)
Yes, some HAVE died as a direct result of Covid, BUT some have died of the FLU in the past, car accidents, COPD, cancer, gun shot wounds, plane crashes, etc. Everyone dies. It's just a matter of time. Take precautions, but live life without fear. ALL deaths "are acceptable" because I can't change that from happening. Why allow fear to rule your life? Everyone only has a finite amount of time to live. How are you going to live that time, in fear?

That’s right. I read these posts every day on Covid and who knows what the real numbers are. It’s interesting that almost seven hundred thousand people die each year from heart disease and over six hundred thousand from cancer and those are verifiable numbers but where’s the outrage. Where are the posts every day on these deaths. Yet, drive past any McDonalds or, fast food place and they are packed. Some people still smoke. These people know the risks yet they continue to indulge in these behaviors. I think they call it living because in the end we all meet the same fate.

Vermilion Villager 01-22-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2052123)
Could we possibly have one Covid free discussion day on this forum? So tired of hearing this daily drumbeat of fear mongering over a virus that is survived by over 99%. Isn't it interesting that no one is hospitalized anymore or dies from the "regular flu"? And you don't hear anything about getting the flu shot. It is all Covid, Covid, Covid. Boister, booster, booster. Sick of hearing it. Try getting a life.

Yet here you are....typing away! Maybe try taking your own advice!!!!!:welcome:

Kevin_1962 01-22-2022 10:32 AM

So by looking at these numbers, the percentage of the deaths of the positive test individuals was .22%. Now the question I have is: did the individual pass with Covid or because of Covid? How many of the individuals had some comorbidity that could have been the actual cause of the passing.
It is a sad fact of earthly life but everyday the almighty calls us back to his kingdom.

Janet1946 01-22-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2052123)
Could we possibly have one Covid free discussion day on this forum? So tired of hearing this daily drumbeat of fear mongering over a virus that is survived by over 99%. Isn't it interesting that no one is hospitalized anymore or dies from the "regular flu"? And you don't hear anything about getting the flu shot. It is all Covid, Covid, Covid. Boister, booster, booster. Sick of hearing it. Try getting a life.

Well, I read the Sun-Sentinel (Ft. Lauderdale) and 3 people have died of the flu in south Florida so far this season.

Dana1963 01-22-2022 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Janet1946 (Post 2052214)
Well, I read the Sun-Sentinel (Ft. Lauderdale) and 3 people have died of the flu in south Florida so far this season.

Janet how dare you present facts to this discussion.
Let the FAKE NEWS posts start.

MDLNB 01-22-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2052137)
Numbers are understated, think about it , the numbers are understated because some people with Covid who have no symptoms do not get tested . Can you understand this ?


Interesting. How do you know that the "numbers are understated" if those without symptoms do not get tested? If they do not get tested, how do you know they have covid? If they have no symptoms, and they do not get tested, then they do not have covid UNTIL they have been proven to have Covid. The only way to prove it is for them to be tested, right? You are ASSUMING, as we all do that a lot more people have covid than are tested. But, without certifiable proof via testing, the premise that the numbers are understated is ONLY a guess.

john352 01-22-2022 01:17 PM

The accuracy of the "new COVID cases" numbers is going to get worse when people start using those new free at-home test kits.

jimjamuser 01-22-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2051816)
As most Villagers know, The Villages spans through three different counties. Here are the number of new COVID cases as of Jan. 20, according to the CDC website. In Lake County, there have been 6,412 new cases over the last week. 212 of those cases were admitted to the hospital, and 14 resulted in death.

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In Newsbreak for today, I found a list of Fl. cities for CV. heading the list at 31,633 total cases/ 100,000 is the Miami area. The Villages is listed last out of about 40 at about 1/2 the cases or 14064/100,000 people. THAT is good! BUT, BIG BUT......The Villages is HIGHER than 50% of the cities for total DEATHS /100,000 at 14,064. Please check that out for yourself.
......The most likely reason for the LARGER rate of deaths than cases for The Villages in the Fl list IS that Villagers are an
OLDER population than other Fl cities. (our Hospitals can NOT be THAT bad).

jimjamuser 01-22-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jaj523 (Post 2051975)
Lots of people are testing positive when they are not sick at all. Most people who test positive are not sick at all. That number represents POSITIVE tests only, not people who are sick. Very misleading.

Not according to our own Doctor.....DR. Blue Ash! He said that the chances that a positive test is FALSE happens in about 2% of the tests. Now a negative rapid test IS false so many times as to be NOT useful information.

Velvet 01-22-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2052123)
Could we possibly have one Covid free discussion day on this forum? So tired of hearing this daily drumbeat of fear mongering over a virus that is survived by over 99%. Isn't it interesting that no one is hospitalized anymore or dies from the "regular flu"? And you don't hear anything about getting the flu shot. It is all Covid, Covid, Covid. Boister, booster, booster. Sick of hearing it. Try getting a life.

No. Wait till there is no more Covid, please. Some of us continue to be interested.

jimjamuser 01-22-2022 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2052102)
Yes, some HAVE died as a direct result of Covid, BUT some have died of the FLU in the past, car accidents, COPD, cancer, gun shot wounds, plane crashes, etc. Everyone dies. It's just a matter of time. Take precautions, but live life without fear. ALL deaths "are acceptable" because I can't change that from happening. Why allow fear to rule your life? Everyone only has a finite amount of time to live. How are you going to live that time, in fear?

If 95% of all US residents that are eligible got ALL their vaccines AND boosters as recommended by LEGITIMATE Doctors - then we could ALL be happy and live life to the fullest. That IS NOT possible right now! Portugal has an over 95% vaccination rate. I imagine that they are living their lives to the fullest and are happy! And their Hospitals are fulfilling THEIR society's medical and health needs. In the US some states have some hospitals that are in CRISIS standard of care (as in do NOT resusitate)!

MDLNB 01-22-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2052308)
If 95% of all US residents that are eligible got ALL their vaccines AND boosters as recommended by LEGITIMATE Doctors - then we could ALL be happy and live life to the fullest. That IS NOT possible right now! Portugal has an over 95% vaccination rate. I imagine that they are living their lives to the fullest and are happy! And their Hospitals are fulfilling THEIR society's medical and health needs. In the US some states have some hospitals that are in CRISIS standard of care (as in do NOT resusitate)!


I believe that Portugal has about 0.03% the population of the U.S. Correct me if I am wrong, but that is hardly a comparison. We have states of the same population size and they have almost the same vaccination rate, give or take.

jimjamuser 01-22-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2052151)
They are hospitalized, they do die, and prior to flu season you did hear about the shots.

The reason you hear more about Covid is that Covid is killing nearly 20 times as many people. Many of today’s deaths are preventable with a simple shot.

The Villagers are OLDER than the US general population, so they have more BAD hospitalizations and more deaths. So, it is only natural that they are MORE worried and MORE interested in CV facts and the NEWEST information. Why begrudge someone their life-saving information found on their local forum. Those that are invulnerable and NOT in need of CV info and facts can easily scan RIGHT BY the CV threads!

jimjamuser 01-22-2022 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2052310)
I believe that Portugal has about 0.03% the population of the U.S. Correct me if I am wrong, but that is hardly a comparison. We have states of the same population size and they have almost the same vaccination rate, give or take.

That .03 OF ONE PERCENT population comparison seems TOO low. But, my main point was that the US COULD (?) have been in a CV happy place if it was not for anti-vaxxers and conspiracy mongers.

Velvet 01-22-2022 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2052310)
I believe that Portugal has about 0.03% the population of the U.S. Correct me if I am wrong, but that is hardly a comparison. We have states of the same population size and they have almost the same vaccination rate, give or take.

But, don’t we have enough vaccine for everyone in the US? It is only a degree of scale to compare to Portugal. As an elementary teacher I remember some immigrant fishing village Portuguese parent marking the report card with an “x” because they could not write their name. Yet, I would venture, they are not any less “intelligent” than we are.

Swoop 01-22-2022 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2052308)
If 95% of all US residents that are eligible got ALL their vaccines AND boosters as recommended by LEGITIMATE Doctors - then we could ALL be happy and live life to the fullest. That IS NOT possible right now! Portugal has an over 95% vaccination rate. I imagine that they are living their lives to the fullest and are happy! And their Hospitals are fulfilling THEIR society's medical and health needs. In the US some states have some hospitals that are in CRISIS standard of care (as in do NOT resusitate)!

Cruise ships require 100% of their crew and passengers to be vaccinated, yet the rate of Covid positives on cruise ships is comparable to the general population in the US. Explain how vaccines are effective…
FYI, that statistic was promoted by the cruise industry to show that cruising was safe…

Swoop 01-22-2022 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2052308)
If 95% of all US residents that are eligible got ALL their vaccines AND boosters as recommended by LEGITIMATE Doctors - then we could ALL be happy and live life to the fullest. That IS NOT possible right now! Portugal has an over 95% vaccination rate. I imagine that they are living their lives to the fullest and are happy! And their Hospitals are fulfilling THEIR society's medical and health needs. In the US some states have some hospitals that are in CRISIS standard of care (as in do NOT resusitate)!

Here’s an even better example of vaccine effectiveness. You used Portugal as an example. You stated they have a 95% vaccination rate. Yet, based on today’s numbers, their Covid per capita infection rate is 2X the rate of Americans…
Yep, vaccines are the answer…
If the question is “What seems to have little to no effect on the spread of Covid?”…


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