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Newell28701 01-22-2022 01:59 PM

Lanai enclosure recommendations
 
I'm looking to enclose the patio on my Emerald model and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations. Will be enclosing with glass.

dewilson58 01-22-2022 02:20 PM

NOT T&D..............so many issues.
Their focus is new homes, remod's take a back seat and they refuse to stand by their work.

Babubhat 01-22-2022 05:06 PM

Custom windows

Custom Windows R Us – Custom Windows and Exterior Design

Garywt 01-22-2022 05:23 PM

We used Cook Aluminium, we had issues with Custom Windows.

metoo21 01-22-2022 05:27 PM

Something to be aware of is that I've read that if you enclose it in glass, it will add to the sq ft of the home and raise the property tax. Also the AC may not handle the extra space. May not be important to you but....

vintageogauge 01-22-2022 05:29 PM

All Season Rooms did a great job for us and was the only one that offered glass with a "transferable" warranty. They also beat Custom and CVS prices. Never had a problem in over 3 years.

Stu from NYC 01-22-2022 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2052351)
Something to be aware of is that I've read that if you enclose it in glass, it will add to the sq ft of the home and raise the property tax. Also the AC may not handle the extra space. May not be important to you but....

Not true. If the living room has a slightly different elevation than Florida room property tax will stay the same.

Now the A/C may need some help. We did this and considering adding another small unit.

Custom Windows did ours and happy with results.

Debfrommaine 01-22-2022 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2052377)
Not true. If the living room has a slightly different elevation than Florida room property tax will stay the same.

Now the A/C may need some help. We did this and considering adding another small unit.

Custom Windows did ours and happy with results.

And you need to leave the sliders in place. We added a mini split, perfect for our room. Our taxes remain the same.

raynan 01-22-2022 11:00 PM

Taxes remain the same if floor level doesn't change. We used Custom Windows in Leesburg. Great company to work with and the big advantage is they don't remove your screens and the lanai is still usable while you wait for your ordered windows to come in. Other companies strip the screen off the lanai and it's left unusable for months waiting for windows.

Dafoe 01-23-2022 05:46 AM

John Hill did ours 8 years ago. Stands behind his work. Quality workmanship and very reasonable!

rsmurano 01-23-2022 07:38 AM

Not true about raising your taxes. There are 5 levels of enclosing your lanai with glass according to Sumter county. Levels 1-3 you pay no tax on your lanai, levels 4-5 you do. I’m enclosing our lanai with double pane windows, exterior door, adding electrical outlets, raised concrete floor to match height of house floor, tiling our lanai with same tile as house, with no tax increase. The 2 items that will raise your taxes: taking your sliders out, and getting a heating/cooling system for it

tlb50 01-23-2022 07:40 AM

We used Elite Lifestyles of Florida. The build quality is beyond compare.

gcanonge 01-23-2022 08:06 AM

Customer service after the installation is not the best and the service from Simonton Windows, who they represent, is awful.

pkfavreau2 01-23-2022 08:20 AM

Lanai enclosures
 
Kilcrease was great for us

Brwne 01-23-2022 08:32 AM

Enclosing the lanai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2052465)
Not true about raising your taxes. There are 5 levels of enclosing your lanai with glass according to Sumter county. Levels 1-3 you pay no tax on your lanai, levels 4-5 you do. I’m enclosing our lanai with double pane windows, exterior door, adding electrical outlets, raised concrete floor to match height of house floor, tiling our lanai with same tile as house, with no tax increase. The 2 items that will raise your taxes: taking your sliders out, and getting a heating/cooling system for it

We used Custom Windows and their double pane sliding doors to enclose our West facing lanai. We use the lanai daily so we added the ductless HVAC "dehumidifier" and permanently removed the sliding doors to the house. We used LVP for the floor and regret not raising the lanai floor to be level with the house floor.

LynneH 01-23-2022 09:26 AM

I recommend Elite Lifestyles of Florida with a caveat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tlb50 (Post 2052468)
We used Elite Lifestyles of Florida. The build quality is beyond compare.

The quality of work for our enclosure is very well done!
Do not expect the work to be completed on a deadline. Due to covid illnesses and supply chain scarcity our job took longer than expected.

chenault55 01-23-2022 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newell28701 (Post 2052295)
I'm looking to enclose the patio on my Emerald model and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations. Will be enclosing with glass.

D&J Construction LLC did our glass enclosure and we love it. They were very responsive to all questions and concerns, personable and did great work. Their numbers in case you’d like to get an estimate are:

David:
352-267-5684

Jason:
407-416-2039’

Wrhobson 01-23-2022 10:11 AM

Enclosing Lanai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Newell28701 (Post 2052295)
I'm looking to enclose the patio on my Emerald model and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations. Will be enclosing with glass.

We had Windows of Central Florida install low-e double pane windows and block knee walls in 2018 and were quite happy with their work.

patfla06 01-23-2022 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2052351)
Something to be aware of is that I've read that if you enclose it in glass, it will add to the sq ft of the home and raise the property tax. Also the AC may not handle the extra space. May not be important to you but....

This is not true. Enclosing the lanai does NOT raise your taxes.
Only if you take out the sliding glass doors between the living room and
the lanai do your taxes go up.

Jim 9922 01-23-2022 10:24 AM

Three suggestions: Insulate above the lanai ceiling; install electric and cable outlets along the new outer walls using its own circuit; when adding the electrical consider installing six or eight dimming recessed lights in the ceiling with controller/switches for every two (so the lights are "zoned"). Elite built our room and where necessary installed wires in groves cut into existing concrete block and ran wires inside the new window framing/support structure. No ugly conduit running down from the ceiling or thru the outside walls as we have seen done on some cheaper installation/conversions.

virtue51 01-23-2022 10:25 AM

Custom Windows - highly recommend. I raised the floor and added a Mitsubishi unit in the lanai. You will want the A/C in the summer months.

Blessed7 01-23-2022 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2052465)
Not true about raising your taxes. There are 5 levels of enclosing your lanai with glass according to Sumter county. Levels 1-3 you pay no tax on your lanai, levels 4-5 you do. I’m enclosing our lanai with double pane windows, exterior door, adding electrical outlets, raised concrete floor to match height of house floor, tiling our lanai with same tile as house, with no tax increase. The 2 items that will raise your taxes: taking your sliders out, and getting a heating/cooling system for it

We are thinking of doing the same conversion. Once these changes are made I would think that the county can increase the property tax because the assessed value would increase. The upside is that you gain added square feet of living space which then adds value to the resale of your home. Am I wrong?

The Left Mitten 01-23-2022 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2052304)
NOT T&D..............so many issues.
Their focus is new homes, remod's take a back seat and they refuse to stand by their work.

We used T & D. Although their work was impeccable, getting the job done in a timely manner did not happen. They showed up less than 49% of the time. However, the finished product is beautiful.

mtdjed 01-23-2022 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raynan (Post 2052419)
Taxes remain the same if floor level doesn't change. We used Custom Windows in Leesburg. Great company to work with and the big advantage is they don't remove your screens and the lanai is still usable while you wait for your ordered windows to come in. Other companies strip the screen off the lanai and it's left unusable for months waiting for windows.

We used Custom Windows and are extremely happy. In our case they did have to remove screens to put up heavy duty aluminum framework. Could only take final dimensions for windows after that was done.

END OTT 01-23-2022 06:14 PM

Custom Windows
 
Did a knee wall and glass sliding windows 9 x 28 great workmanship and delivered when they estimated the materials available

mtdjed 01-23-2022 07:10 PM

Regarding taxes on enclosing Lanai's. Different counties have different requirements. I live in Sumter County, and it may have less stringent rules. You should really talk to some contractors for enclosure and for heating and cooling regarding tax impact.

Also, I would guess that the rules could be changed and perhaps retrospectively.

Taxable value depends upon many factors. Home area is one, but location is certainly another. Within a local area, different tax values may be influenced by living space defined as enclosed and conditioned by cooling and heating.

I don't think anyone should count on the current definitions as permanent.

I have lived in several areas and one in particular which strives to establish taxes based upon estimated current value.

TCLaD 01-27-2022 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2052352)
All Season Rooms did a great job for us and was the only one that offered glass with a "transferable" warranty. They also beat Custom and CVS prices. Never had a problem in over 3 years.

terrible experience with this company.

gdennis317 01-27-2022 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2052351)
Something to be aware of is that I've read that if you enclose it in glass, it will add to the sq ft of the home and raise the property tax. Also the AC may not handle the extra space. May not be important to you but....

Not correct.

As long as you do not remove the doors from house to Lanai, it is not added to Taxable Square footage.

GPFan47 01-31-2022 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2052351)
Something to be aware of is that I've read that if you enclose it in glass, it will add to the sq ft of the home and raise the property tax. Also the AC may not handle the extra space. May not be important to you but....

From what I understand, an enclosed lanai does not add to the square footage of your home (for tax purposes) unless you raise the concrete floor up to the level of the house and completely remove the door between the lanai and the home. You can check with your county property appraisers office for complete information. An increase in property tax is typically not an issue when enclosing a lanai.

GPFan47 01-31-2022 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2052351)
Something to be aware of is that I've read that if you enclose it in glass, it will add to the sq ft of the home and raise the property tax. Also the AC may not handle the extra space. May not be important to you but....

From what I understand, an enclosed lanai does not add to the square footage of your home (for tax purposes) unless you raise the concrete floor up to the level of the house and completely remove the door between the lanai and the home. You can check with your county property appraisers office for complete information. An increase in property tax is typically not an issue when enclosing a lanai.

GPFan47 01-31-2022 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLaD (Post 2054423)
terrible experience with this company.

Please explain the details of your "terrible experience" with All Season Rooms.

I see a number of positive comments about the company. What was your experience like?

DALEPQ 01-31-2022 09:56 AM

Lanai Enclosure
 
We are currently in process of doing the same you are looking to do.
Started in Oct. '21, trying to get bids, contacted about 15 contractors, 5 didn't even reply.
In early Dec. '21 finally got some contractors, to actually come to see what our project would be.
Got several outrageous bids, one as high as $65,000.!!!! Some others never did bid!?!
All contractors seem to be very busy and booked way into the future, all stated they
have very long lead times for windows, many months out.
Finally found ONE contractor that we could work with, at a reasonable bid, but they can't start till maybe late April.
So, just can hope you have good luck in finding a contractor to work with, at a bid that you can accept, within a time that you can deal with. Seems to be a whole lot different
now that a few years ago. (F.Y.I. - We can pay in cash, if needed).

dewilson58 01-31-2022 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Left Mitten (Post 2052766)
We used T & D. Although their work was impeccable, getting the job done in a timely manner did not happen.

It all depends on what you are use to (like: "what's a good steak?") and if you know building codes and if you know how to inspect workmanship.

Direwolf 01-31-2022 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debfrommaine (Post 2052385)
And you need to leave the sliders in place. We added a mini split, perfect for our room. Our taxes remain the same.

Was the mini-split allowed under the deed restriction, or did you need to get approval on it?

dewilson58 01-31-2022 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direwolf (Post 2055549)
Was the mini-split allowed under the deed restriction, or did you need to get approval on it?

Don't do a Split, they look like hell and it's like you are in a hotel room. JMO

zmarkp 01-31-2022 02:18 PM

Lake Glass and Mirror. 352.787.4700.

davem4616 02-01-2022 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPFan47 (Post 2055388)
Please explain the details of your "terrible experience" with All Season Rooms.

I see a number of positive comments about the company. What was your experience like?


Wow...we had a great experience with All Season Rooms...two of my cousins used them also and had no issues

GPFan47 02-01-2022 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2055555)
Don't do a Split, they look like hell and it's like you are in a hotel room. JMO

There are mini-split cassette units that fit neatly into the ceiling now. This can be an option for people who don't like the wall units.

dewilson58 02-01-2022 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPFan47 (Post 2055722)
There are mini-split cassette units that fit neatly into the ceiling now. This can be an option for people who don't like the wall units.

Yep.
Still not attractive & still have extra noise.
But old people can't see or hear well. :1rotfl:

Brad-tv 03-10-2022 08:22 AM

Has anyone used Windows of Central Florida? They are local.


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