What!!!!!
 

More than 100 Catholic church officials in Germany came out as LGBT, queer or non-binary on Monday, adding to calls for reform within the crisis-hit church.

Are they trying to confuse us?

What is non-binary? I understand the term binary mathematically. So, I can imagine non-binary meaning not based upon two. But it seems to me that this is not referring to biology. Yet it seems that these individuals don't accept they are what we commonly label by pronouns such as he or she.

Sounds like a term that some have invented to describe a view of life, but not a scientific description of a being. Are there non-binary dogs, fish, birds?

The question is that as we classify things scientifically wouldn't physical characteristics still apply. Male, female, neuter, and then further definition to describe, race, sexual orientation, etc. Thus, wouldn't pronouns he and she be acceptable?

Just another reason why I oppose ALL religions.

hmmm, sounds like they didn't get the memo 'don't ask/don't tell'

no surprise though...bad help is easy to find

Trying to change narrative again
“ Ex-Pope Benedict admits to giving false statement in child abuse report”
Unfortunately the Catholic church is the most corrupt of all along with TV Evangelists just keep giving money.
Salvation can not be bought!

Hmmm.
 

Can't remember where I first heard this old saying that "religion is the last refuge of scoundrels."

As to " non-binary", there are some species that only require one sex to procreate. Also, recently heard of a species that has three distinct sexes. I don't believe any of those belong to any religion, but who am I to say.

As to sexual orientation, people can be prone to anything from straight heterosexual thru LGBT on to necrophilia, animals to inanimate objects and anything you can think of. To put it plainly, people are really weird.

There is no "group" (humans) exempt.
They ALL operate the same way!
A heat generating bias comment with an obvious prejudiced basis!

All gods are man made...

Isn't that the truth!

A crock!

Let me tell you about my last Church….
 

Just a few weeks ago I was a parishioner of a large Catholic Church here until I heard the head priest apologize (on camera)to us at the opening of the mass because some parishioners wrote him a six page letter telling him why they hated him.
He said that he gave permission to a woman parishioner who offered to help assist in giving communion, but did withdraw it at the parishioners request and apologized profusely to us. He withdrew permission and told the woman she could not serve or assist because she was a transgender.
At that moment I realized that even though the Church says God loves all his children it was obvious that the people in this flock don’t. Apparently, the priest in order to keep his job had to bow to the parishioners hatred….and we wonder why there is so much hatred and discord in the world.

To those on this blog who denounce religion: You don't have the right to make blanket statements about other people’s religious choices. Because the religion a person follows is sacred to her/him. So hate speech against religion is offensive to many people and it’s also rude.

Regarding Catholic clergy coming “out” in Germany: Gay and lesbian clergy have existed for a long time, and the clergy are just being honest about it and owning their identity. Don’t really know much about the non-binary thing so I’ll remain respectful.

so what man created the big bang and the subsequent universe?
Or should we believe an empty box creates the item within it?

God never changes. His word is forever

Peace on earth 🌎
 

Jesus preached:

Love one another as i have loved you.

Let him without sin, cast the first stone

judge not, lest ye be judged!

Whether you believe or not, are these not principles we can all live by ?

A good example there is a God from these anti Christ comments , spreaders of darkness and evil , because they are using God given free will as apposed to a predetermined life like a plant .
How big must one think of themselves to think there is no God .,Of course we were warned when we became believers we would be attacked for following a religion by
those with no belief. We can feel sorry for they know not what they do .

No
 

Personally, I wouldn’t want to receive communion from a man dressed as a woman or a woman with a beard.and I probably wouldn’t go back….why do I have to? I don’t.

Got take your meds every day and stop drinking the Kool-Aide!

These non believer comments are
Pitiful. Most cases when their body
fails them and their gonna die they then look for a savior . Who do they think they are fooling?

The most important, this article is missing ..PEDO's...The vatican and on down..PEDO city.

What about receiving communion from a man who loves children too much?

Pedos belong in jail jackgrass

I'm not sure that you have a valid point. Leaving a church because you don't get along with how the "leaders" think? What about what you believe and think? I believe religion is between God and the individual.

God didn't send me here to judge. That's not my job. He only sent me here to Love.

As it should be.

Good grief, what is with you Christians who always feel you are being "attacked" no one is attacking you because they don't believe in fairy tales.

1. Certain vocations attract certain personalities. However, all priests are not child molesters, and all nuns aren't lesbians.

2. To those who say "Who are you to judge"? I say "God gave me an intellect AND a
conscience in order to allow me to make judgements.

Imho
 

I do think a valid point was trying to be made.
IMHO, a "church" is a business. A "religion" is a form of common shared beliefs shared by a group of people. "Faith" is the relationship an individual has with their god, gods, infinite something or nothing.
So, to the point, leaving a church because you disagree with the church leaders point of view or practices is a most valid reason indeed. Leaving the religion is something all together different, as is re-evaluating one's Faith.

“ The practice of priestly celibacy began to spread in the Western Church in the early Middle Ages. In the early 11th century Pope Benedict VIII responded to the decline in priestly morality by issuing a rule prohibiting the children of priests from inheriting property. A few decades later Pope Gregory VII issued a decree against clerical marriages. The Church was a thousand years old before it definitively took a stand in favor of celibacy in the twelfth century at the Second Lateran Council held in 1139, when a rule was approved forbidding priests to marry. In 1563, the Council of Trent reaffirmed the tradition of celibacy.”
When Did the Catholic Church Decide Priests Should Be Celibate? | History News
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My dad, a hospital chaplain, taught chaplaincy to young men preparing to become Catholic priests at St. Thomas Seminary in Denver for a couple decades. He told me, forty years ago, that he estimated that a third of the seminarians were homosexual. (This does NOT mean they were pedophiles, though perhaps some might have been.) So the problem is not just in Germany. It is here, as well. Bear in mind that if a priest is celibate, it doesn’t really matter what his sexual orientation is, as he isn’t using it. Paul wrote, “It is better to marry than to burn [with lust].” It’s no harder or easier for a homosexual man to be celibate than for a heterosexual man to be celibate. There’s an excellent chance that your favorite priest is a homosexual who keeps his mouth shut. Maybe he gives in to his lusts, and maybe he doesn’t. If he doesn’t, then there is no sin.

In the Middle Ages and for centuries before then, monks and nuns were expected to abstain from marriage and sex. Monasteries provided a community where men could live fulfilling lives without having to marry. The same goes for nunneries. Similarly, monastic life provided a safe harbor for men who were gentle, artistic, delicate, or uninterested in warfare. Some of these men were homosexual, but most probably weren’t. There was both homosexual and heterosexual sex occurring in some monasteries, but no marriage, and the sex was not condoned. Most monks were not ordained as priests, but most monasteries had at least one or two priests living there. Those priests were also unmarried.

It was different with parish priests. Until 1139, many parish priests in England had wives and children. After all, being a good parish priest was hard work, and a priest needed someone to cook and keep house for him. If he had a wife with whom he could have sex, he was less tempted by the women in his parish. However, it was natural for a priest to want to have land or money to leave to his wife and children when he died. The Vatican came to realize that it was losing out on a lot of income by letting priests leave their money and land to their dependents instead of leaving it to the church. So the Vatican forbade priests to marry and required married priests to set aside their wives and children. This meant that lots of women and children were left without a means of support. Priests hired housekeepers, some of whom provided “benefits” as well. Some took mistresses who bore them illegitimate children.

I find it sad that so many priests spend their lives struggling with temptations and living a lie, despite feeling called to serve as priests. I can understand these German priests wanting to have their sexual orientations accepted so they don’t always feel like they must keep their true selves hidden.

Thanks for the well written and thought out comments.

Nobody really knows how the universe was made, it's all a theory that has been debated for hundreds of years.

The dissertation (post # 29) does not apply to just "priests" and "nuns"......but to any and all groups of similar human cross section/make up.
Bar none! It is unfortunate the Catholic faith is made to be such a target.

Dear friend,
 

It isn't only Christians. People react whenever they sense any disparagement of their most cherished bastions of belief. Religion, politics, habits, customs, etc, almost anything they fee strongly about.

Germany: 125 queer Catholic Church employees demand respect - ABC News

Here is an article about that news.

i don't know if i should say this, but i always had a bad feeling about that guy. i was raised Catholic, so i can believe a lot of what the negative media has said, -but this guy benedict,...idk. he gave me the creeps from day 1.

I believe religion is between God and the individual.[/QUOTE] :pray::clap2:

If you are going to follow any "holy" book, you shouldn't be able to pick and choose what parts of the book you ascribe to or don't. I don't think the bible is in favor of any form of LGBTQ. As an individual you can believe what ever you like but as a church doctrine I would so no. Personally, I'm not a big believer in religion and feel people are entitled to do mostly whatever they feel and or believe as long as they do no harm to anyone else.

… whether YOU believe it or not … OUR Lord said

… ‘I am the way , the truth and the life … no one comes to the father but by me’.

It is written: “’As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God

… I don’t/won’t post often but when you mock the Lord … I will defend!

Then there are those people who don't know me personally such as waiters and cashiers. and they proclaim for me to "Have a Blessed Day". There are many that say it to me. Even some new newscaster on WESH 2 says it. It is really annoying that the station has not stopped her from saying it. Although that simple phrase is offensive to me. I say nothing to anyone who says, "Have a blessed day". I do not acknowledge though.

Who created god?

Please, don't feel sorry for me. Thanks.