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jayerose 03-06-2022 08:52 AM

Spraying for weeds
 
Scott's Turf Builder Triple Action

or

Round Up

or

Bio-Advanced Southern Weed Killer for St. Augustine Lawns ?

thank you!!

retiredguy123 03-06-2022 08:55 AM

Round Up

Decadeofdave 03-06-2022 09:42 AM

Round up, the trick is timing.
Right now in dry season, apply right after a sprinkler cycle so it can take effect over a few days before next sprinkle. In summer it's pretty much ineffective do to daily rains.

Garywt 03-06-2022 11:57 AM

I don’t use roundup anymore since it was found to cause cancer a number of years back. I use Ortho products now.

UpNorth 03-06-2022 12:22 PM

Be careful using any grass/weed killer that is advertised as "extended control" and uses the chemical dicambra. If used around your bushes, shrubs or trees it can stunt their growth or kill them. Regular RoundUp, vinegar or the other stuff seems to be ok. Be careful of dicambra.

retiredguy123 03-06-2022 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2069093)
I don’t us roundup anymore since it was found to cause cancer a number of years back. I use Ortho products now.

As I understand it, Round Up was only found to cause cancer by jurors being convinced by lawyers who sued the company to make a lot of money.

The EPA says that Round Up is safe to use and it doesn't cause cancer. That is why it is still on the market.

Jerseygirl08 03-06-2022 12:56 PM

Round Up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2069105)
As I understand it, Round Up was only found to cause cancer by jurors being convinced by lawyers who sued the company to make a lot of money.

The EPA says Round Up is safe to use and it doesn't cause cancer. That is why it is still on the market.

Exactly! I thought if it was so "cancer causing", why is it still on the market. The EPA would not allow it to be sold if it was scientifically proven to cause cancer. I could be wrong, but I don't think so, unless the company who makes round-up is in bed with someone higher up in the EPA. That is always a possibility. It's crazy times we live in.

npwalters 03-06-2022 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2069093)
I don’t us roundup anymore since it was found to cause cancer a number of years back. I use Ortho products now.

Round Up is a brand name and the chemical composition varies depending on the specific product. "home use" Roundup is relatively safe and as a result only marginally effective.

davem4616 03-06-2022 06:51 PM

nothing beats bending down and pulling 'em out by the roots

Topspinmo 03-06-2022 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayerose (Post 2068977)
Scott's Turf Builder Triple Action

or

Round Up

or

Bio-Advanced Southern Weed Killer for St. Augustine Lawns ?

thank you!!

I use roundup with the battery powered wand, on hot sunny day, I have rock yard so don’t have to worry about over spray. It you’re going to spray get ones with battery powered wand’s. the pump ups are too much work.

Topspinmo 03-06-2022 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2069093)
I don’t us roundup anymore since it was found to cause cancer a number of years back. I use Ortho products now.

So what is the magic in Ortho? IMO no safer than roundup or any other weed killer.

thevillages2013 03-06-2022 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayerose (Post 2068977)
Scott's Turf Builder Triple Action

or

Round Up

or

Bio-Advanced Southern Weed Killer for St. Augustine Lawns ?

thank you!!

There is Roundup broadleaf weed killer and Roundup grass and weed killer . If you are using it in the grass you better know what version you have.

Garywt 03-06-2022 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2069105)
As I understand it, Round Up was only found to cause cancer by jurors being convinced by lawyers who sued the company to make a lot of money.

The EPA says that Round Up is safe to use and it doesn't cause cancer. That is why it is still on the market.

I just figured they changed the formula. I am actually involved in one of the many lawsuits as I use to use roundup all the time and have had cancer for over 8.5 years. It would be crazy for me to still use it.

Garywt 03-06-2022 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2069252)
nothing beats bending down and pulling 'em out by the roots

True but is you are not at the house for 6 months you need something else to help out.

Garywt 03-06-2022 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2069263)
So what is the magic in Ortho? IMO no safer than roundup or any other weed killer.

Maybe not but Roundup has had lawsuits, one of which I am involved in, so I don’t use it. Used it for many years around the house, camp, when working on a golf course and a landscaper. Since I have cancer that is listed I might as well try to take care of my family before I am gone.

Bonanza 03-06-2022 10:47 PM

HA - Ha - ha!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2069252)
nothing beats bending down and pulling 'em out by the roots

Wanna bet??!?

RICH1 03-07-2022 04:49 AM

RANGER … it’s what the Pros use! Kills everything

La lamy 03-07-2022 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2069105)
As I understand it, Round Up was only found to cause cancer by jurors being convinced by lawyers who sued the company to make a lot of money.

The EPA says that Round Up is safe to use and it doesn't cause cancer. That is why it is still on the market.

"Roundup is banned in more than 20 countries because the herbicide has been linked to an increased risk of non-Hodgkin lymphoma and other types of cancer. Roundup is not banned in the United States, although some states have prohibited or restricted its use."

La lamy 03-07-2022 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl08 (Post 2069109)
Exactly! I thought if it was so "cancer causing", why is it still on the market. The EPA would not allow it to be sold if it was scientifically proven to cause cancer. I could be wrong, but I don't think so, unless the company who makes round-up is in bed with someone higher up in the EPA. That is always a possibility. It's crazy times we live in.

:1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl: What do say about cigarettes still being allowed to be sold?!! It's all about money, versus saving people's health.

Annie66 03-07-2022 06:47 AM

The ingredients in Round Up appears to have linkage with the reduction in the honey bee population.

Shadowrider 03-07-2022 07:01 AM

Yes, it is still on the market, but the formula has changed, and it is not as effective as it used to be. Roundup is still the best available.

Jimmay 03-07-2022 07:06 AM

Go to ace hardware in Wildwood hywy 301. They have the answer sheet.

spinner1001 03-07-2022 07:09 AM

Here is information from UF on herbicides and other weed control for Florida lawns.

ENH884/EP141: Weed Management Guide for Florida Lawns

mkjelenbaas 03-07-2022 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayerose (Post 2068977)
Scott's Turf Builder Triple Action

or

Round Up

or

Bio-Advanced Southern Weed Killer for St. Augustine Lawns ?

thank you!!

Did you google?

OhioBuckeye 03-07-2022 08:14 AM

You’re exactly right & I don’t use it! Round up leaves brown spots. I use Ortho & labeled says, Kills Weeds not Grass. Also I never had any luck with fertilizer businesses that want you to pay outlandish amounts of money & I never have been impressed with their products!

rrtjp 03-07-2022 08:18 AM

I have been using Scott’s weed & feed for years at my previous home in West Palm Beach. Used it here twice now (only been here 6 months)and my lawn looks better than any of my neighbors lawns who are paying $$$$ a lawn company to handle their lawn care. IMHO. The frost we had a little while back did a number on many lawns including mine, but it bounced right back and looks great again.

rsmurano 03-07-2022 08:40 AM

If you apply roundup or any like chemical right, only use it a few minutes every few months, and wear a mask and gloves, you are safe. The people at risk applying these chemicals, you’ll see a fog around them, they aren’t wearing masks or gloves, and they apply these chemicals 8 hrs a day.

tophcfa 03-07-2022 09:19 AM

Hit them with a sprayer filled with agricultural strength vinegar mixed with a little dish soap, so the vinegar sticks to the weeds. It doesn’t kill weeds as well as cancer causing chemicals, but you will have a better chance of being around to have a weed problem to deal with. As a bonus, your yard will smell like salad dressing for a couple days.

thevillages2013 03-07-2022 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2069472)
I have been using Scott’s weed & feed for years at my previous home in West Palm Beach. Used it here twice now (only been here 6 months)and my lawn looks better than any of my neighbors lawns who are paying $$$$ a lawn company to handle their lawn care. IMHO. The frost we had a little while back did a number on many lawns including mine, but it bounced right back and looks great again.

That is all well and good but make sure you are treating for” critters “as well. If you get mole crickets or chinch bugs your happy lawn will be sad sad sad

Woodbear 03-07-2022 11:48 PM

Round Up, but more importantly buy the generic 41% Glyphosate and save yourself lots of money. At Tractor Supply, you will find
the concentrated gallon for $40 a bottle. This gallon will make over 80 gallons of mix.

RICH1 03-08-2022 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowrider (Post 2069386)
Yes, it is still on the market, but the formula has changed, and it is not as effective as it used to be. Roundup is still the best available.

Nope … RANGER IS

DAVES 03-08-2022 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2069105)
As I understand it, Round Up was only found to cause cancer by jurors being convinced by lawyers who sued the company to make a lot of money.

The EPA says that Round Up is safe to use and it doesn't cause cancer. That is why it is still on the market.

I have a low opinion of attorneys. Not sure who has more jokes about them attys or proctologists.

As far as weed killers, I believe 24D in most all weed killers has also been liked to cancer. History is, according to me, very similar to agent orange which was also sold to consumers by Scotts labeled ERASE-no longer sold. The 24D has been linked to cancer. It was invented by the Brits in WWI. England does not have nearly as many attorneys per capita as we have and they also have far fewer cases

keepsake 03-08-2022 09:46 PM

Round Up is priced to pay all these sleazy lawyers and future ones.

Garywt 03-08-2022 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keepsake (Post 2070202)
Round Up is priced to pay all these sleazy lawyers and future ones.

I am not sure I would call my lawyers sleazy but to each there own. If I can get some money for my family before I die plus get a little something for the 8 and a half years of hell so far they why not go for it. Until you are diagnosed yourself with this brutal disease you can’t understand.

Tyrone Shoelaces 03-09-2022 12:49 PM

Try Eraser. Same active as Ranger and you can get it anywhere.
That's for killing weeds and everything else.
Celcius or Blindside is for killing weeds and not the grass.

MartinSE 03-09-2022 12:57 PM

I use a mixture of vinegar and salt. The vinegar I use is 45% acidic (very corrosive, be careful with it). This is topical, the same as Roundup. And VERY effect. Fast knock down and kills weeds dead - just be careful not to get it on plants you want, it is a non-discriminating plant killer. It kills by drying the plant so it can not absorb moisture. It is not a poison per se. and is not harmful to the environment. In addition it is very inexpensive.

You can use plain kitchen vinegar with table salt which is 5% acid, it is just a little slower, but not really any less effective.

DAVES 03-10-2022 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2069252)
nothing beats bending down and pulling 'em out by the roots

And the effect is instant. A few-take that sucker keeps you going.


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