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iaudit 03-13-2022 07:42 PM

Torsion Springs
 
Has anyone had the torsion springs on their garage door replaced lately? How much were you charged? Normally, I would call Ryan O’Cull, but he is out of town until mid April. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Catalina36 03-14-2022 06:52 AM

I used Florida Garage Door Pro's. Two springs and center bearing replacement cost was $530.00. I thought it was too high but I didn't have time to shop around. I couldn't open my garage door.

retiredguy123 03-14-2022 07:46 AM

Call Scott, 352-697-0321.

Scott has his own business, but he sometimes fills in for Ryan. Ryan replaced my springs in December for $325.

TJ SoBos 03-14-2022 07:48 AM

When Ryan was too busy he referred me to his buddy, Scott Cowan.. 352-697-0321,
He replaced my opener, and adjusted springs.

Keefelane66 03-14-2022 09:08 AM

My motto is if it ain’t broke leave it alone. From my experience if one spring breaks if you operate garage door opener and assist the garage door it will open it may take a little effort.
? Your vehicle has both coil and maybe leaf springs will you be thinking of changing them also?

JoelJohnson 03-14-2022 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2072230)
My motto is if it ain’t broke leave it alone. From my experience if one spring breaks if you operate garage door opener and assist the garage door it will open it may take a little effort.
? Your vehicle has both coil and maybe leaf springs will you be thinking of changing them also?

He was talking about torsion springs.

retiredguy123 03-14-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2072230)
My motto is if it ain’t broke leave it alone. From my experience if one spring breaks if you operate garage door opener and assist the garage door it will open it may take a little effort.
? Your vehicle has both coil and maybe leaf springs will you be thinking of changing them also?

I don't agree. If one torsion spring is broken, I would recommend replacing both of them. Operating a garage door with only one spring will put excess strain on the motor. Some doors will not even open if one spring is broken.

Keefelane66 03-14-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2072254)
I don't agree. If one torsion spring is broken, I would recommend replacing both of them. Operating a garage door with only one spring will put excess strain on the motor. Some doors will not even open if one spring is broken.

Sometimes you must think out of the box. In a pinch it will work have done this before and someday I’ll probably need to do it again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q7sTl51uCJA

Keefelane66 03-14-2022 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 2072247)
He was talking about torsion springs.

I realize that just an example if nothing is wrong with the torsion spring why replace it or will it be something to worry about and replace maybe every 5 years
I found this from a garage door mfg site
Top reasons why garage door springs break
Wear and Tear
By far the biggest reason for garage door spring failure is simple wear and tear. Most springs are engineered and rated for about 10,000 cycles – one cycle being the garage door going up and coming back down to close. That may seem like a lot, but consider that you go through a minimum of two cycles a day just getting the car out of and back into the garage. If you go on any errands, a spouse goes to work through the same garage, or kids open and close the door for any reason, those daily cycles can add up a lot faster than you may think. If you garage door has become your “front door” and receives excessive use, it might be smart to consider getting extended lifespan torsion springs, which are rated for 20,000 or more cycles.

Rust
If any rust develops on the spring for any reason, its lifespan will be dramatically shortened. Rust increases the amount of friction on the coils while it moves back and forth. Addition, the corrosion on the spring itself will weaken the coils and lead to failure more quickly. Spraying down the spring with a silicone-based lubricant three or four times a year can greatly assist in keeping it well lubricated and extend its life expectancy.

Improper Maintenance
All garage door springs will fail eventually, but proper maintenance can not only prolong the lifespan of the springs, but alert you when they are getting close to failure. The can help prevent potentially destructive explosive breaking of the spring as well as the headache involved with fixing it as quickly as possible. In addition to lubricating the spring with white lithium grease a few times a year, check the garage door balance at least once a season, especially in the winter when most springs fail. To check balance:

Pull the emergency release cord (it has a red handle) to place the door in manual mode.
Lift the door up halfway and let go of it. Springs in good working order should keep it completely still; if the door sags and falls a bit, the springs are starting to show signs of wear and may need adjustment or replacement.
We highly advise broken garage door spring repairs be performed by professional technicians who possess the proper training and tools to complete the job safety.

retiredguy123 03-14-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2072279)
Sometimes you must think out of the box. In a pinch it will work have done this before and someday I’ll probably need to do it again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q7sTl51uCJA

I agree that you can operate a door with only one spring "in a pinch". But, I would not depend on one spring as a long term solution. A friend who has an older house had one spring break, and the door would not budge with the motor or manually. When I had a spring break, the motor would still open the door, but is was slow and noisy and I think it really put extra work on the motor. I had both springs replaced immediately.

rjm1cc 03-14-2022 11:58 AM

The 300 dollar range sounds reasonable. I had both mine replace and a little bit of other work for under 400

Blueblaze 03-14-2022 05:52 PM

Romac, the company who installed them originally, quoted $275 and then charged me $300, for a hours worth of abuse from the most rude service tech I've ever hired.

I made the mistake of suggesting that it looked to me like some homeowner had replaced one or the other because they weren't the same size. He got all huffy about his 20-years experience and how I was an idiot who didn't know what I was talking about, and then he proceeded to berate me for my ignorance for the next hour.

In the end, I got two difference size springs that weren't galvanized or color coded like the originals, and the sizes were hidden in back to discourage home owners from doing it themselves.

Next time, I'll call someone else.

Topspinmo 03-14-2022 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2072254)
I don't agree. If one torsion spring is broken, I would recommend replacing both of them. Operating a garage door with only one spring will put excess strain on the motor. Some doors will not even open if one spring is broken.


the springs tension is adjustable. Only reason they’re there is to counter balance the weight of door. My previously garage door had 4 torsion springs, no way I was going to replace all 4 when one broke.

Packer Fan 03-14-2022 11:15 PM

Paid $300 last week in Wisconsin. Both springs - don't do just one. Took him like 40 min to do the job.

CWGUY 03-14-2022 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2072506)
Rohan, the company who installed them originally, quoted $275 and then charged me $300, for a hours worth of abuse from the most rude service tech I've ever hired.

I made the mistake of suggesting that it looked to me like some homeowner had replaced one or the other because they weren't the same size. He got all huffy about his 20-years experience and how I was an idiot who didn't know what I was talking about, and then he proceeded to berate me for my ignorance for the next hour.

In the end, I got two difference size springs that weren't galvanized or color coded like the originals, and the sizes were hidden in back to discourage home owners from doing it themselves.

Next time, I'll call someone else.

I think you mean ROMAC :icon_wink:

banjobob 03-15-2022 05:11 AM

Good advice , I have replaced them myself it is a very scary though, they have a lot of tension on them.

richrjones 03-15-2022 05:47 AM

I recommend Jeff at J and J Services for the repairs at 352-702-6376. He has many years exp. as a garage repairman and will do the job at a reasonable price.

Catalina36 03-15-2022 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2072254)
I don't agree. If one torsion spring is broken, I would recommend replacing both of them. Operating a garage door with only one spring will put excess strain on the motor. Some doors will not even open if one spring is broken.

That is CORRECT. I could not open my garage door with only 1 good spring.
I have a 1 1/2 car garage door. Next time I have any issues with my garage door I will cal Scott or Ryan. Thanks for the recomendation. Florida Garage Door Pro's charged me too much $530.00 for replacing 2 springs and a center plastic bearing. You live and learn. Some contractors think, if you live in the Villages your Rich and charge you more.

richrjones 03-15-2022 05:52 AM

I would recommend J and J services. he has many years exp. as a garage tech, and does good work. Call Jeff at 352-72-6376.

retiredguy123 03-15-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2072506)
Rohan, the company who installed them originally, quoted $275 and then charged me $300, for a hours worth of abuse from the most rude service tech I've ever hired.

I made the mistake of suggesting that it looked to me like some homeowner had replaced one or the other because they weren't the same size. He got all huffy about his 20-years experience and how I was an idiot who didn't know what I was talking about, and then he proceeded to berate me for my ignorance for the next hour.

In the end, I got two difference size springs that weren't galvanized or color coded like the originals, and the sizes were hidden in back to discourage home owners from doing it themselves.

Next time, I'll call someone else.

Note that Romac typically uses two different length torsion springs on the garage doors that they install on new houses. One is about 12 inches shorter than the other one. I don't know why. On my house, the shorter spring broke. But, Ryan O'Cull installed two new identical springs, which were both the longer size. That seems to make more sense to me.

bulky 03-15-2022 08:35 AM

Torsion Spring
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iaudit (Post 2072043)
Has anyone had the torsion springs on their garage door replaced lately? How much were you charged? Normally, I would call Ryan O’Cull, but he is out of town until mid April. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Used Branch garage door 407 #95-6538 for $200.00 in 2020 replaced all the cables, remounted sensors, repaired sensor wires, lubed the doors. Quick response to my phone call and work done same day.

bulky 03-15-2022 08:38 AM

[QUOTE=bulky;2072695]Used Branch garage door 407-295-6538 for $200.00 in 2020 replaced all the cables, remounted sensors, repaired sensor wires, lubed the doors. Quick response to my phone call and work done same day. Two yrs later, everything still working well.

Tillson1 03-15-2022 03:58 PM

springs
 
mostly just need to be tightened

retiredguy123 03-15-2022 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tillson1 (Post 2072891)
mostly just need to be tightened

Huh? If a torsion spring breaks, you will hear a loud noise, it will have a gap in it, and it cannot be tightened.

Blueblaze 03-15-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 2072559)
I think you mean ROMAC :icon_wink:

Yes, you're right. I fixed it.

Greentee 03-15-2022 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaudit (Post 2072043)
Has anyone had the torsion springs on their garage door replaced lately? How much were you charged? Normally, I would call Ryan O’Cull, but he is out of town until mid April. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

352-454-2893
Rodney’s Garage Doors

silver.bullet 03-21-2022 04:25 PM

Second Ryan O,Cull
 
He just replaced 2 springs today at 325.00, same day service! Super guy.

Nick B 03-22-2022 05:54 AM

To the know it all's running your door with one spring is dangerous. It will ruin opener and damage door.If it disconnects from opener it will come down Hard. Change both springs the other will break and you pay another device charge. Springs have been in short supply and have gone up greatly in price. $325 is reasonable right now. I have been in the business 20 years.

RICH1 03-22-2022 06:04 AM

Great tips … also not a bad idea to replace the cables.


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