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MartinSE 03-15-2022 05:28 PM

Daylight Savings time!
 
Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

Topspinmo 03-15-2022 06:06 PM

No suffering to me. I could care less either way now that I don’t have go to work or have kids in school. Can’t please everybody…..

Stu from NYC 03-15-2022 06:33 PM

Like to go walking after dinner so prefer daylight savings

Mleeja 03-15-2022 08:11 PM

This is a step in the right direction, but let’s move the clocks back in November and just leave them there. Everything will be great with “year round dst” until a couple of kids are killed at the bus stops in January.

Michael G. 03-15-2022 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072920)
Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.


I hope your not disappointed while holding your breath.
They been kicking the can down the road for how many years now on DST..

tophcfa 03-15-2022 08:18 PM

Being an evening, and not an early morning person, would be absolutely thrilled if daylight savings becomes year round. Absolutely hate it up north mid December when it’s dark out at 4:20 in the afternoon. In my opinion, the extra hour of A.M. light, while I am sleeping, is a waste of daylight. I have read that studies show year round daylight savings would also result in energy savings and be a net positive for the planet. Bring it on!

Malsua 03-15-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 2072960)
This is a step in the right direction, but let’s move the clocks back in November and just leave them there. Everything will be great with “year round dst” until a couple of kids are killed at the bus stops in January.

Where I grew up, even when the time changed, we still caught the bus in the dark from some point in November to some point in Feb. We survived.

MartinSE 03-15-2022 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2072965)
I hope your not disappointed while holding your breath.
They been kicking the can down the road for how many years now on DST..

I don't recall legislation being passed before? Did I forget it?

La lamy 03-15-2022 09:04 PM

:clap2: :clap2: :clap2: Let's do this!!! The whole continent has to be on board.

MartinSE 03-15-2022 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2072965)
I hope your not disappointed while holding your breath.
They been kicking the can down the road for how many years now on DST..

You are right, I found this:

"Congress had voted on December 14, 1973, to put the US on daylight saving time for two years. President Nixon signed the bill the next day. The US had gone to permanent daylight saving time before, during World War II. Then, too, the measure was enacted to save fuel. "

Apparently everyone wanted it, and then hated it.

maistocars 03-15-2022 09:34 PM

Great news! I won't hold my breath on the House, but at least it's a glimmer of hope! Go! Go! Go!

davem4616 03-15-2022 09:55 PM

If they do make the change, I wonder what the new memory hook will be for replacing the batteries in the smoke detectors....

asking for a friend

MorTech 03-15-2022 09:57 PM

Great News! Now maybe people will stop asking me for help changing the time on their golf cart Ex-Ray device!

Ski Bum 03-15-2022 11:16 PM

I don't really care either way, Standard Time or DST, or do like Newfoundland and split the difference, just stop the clock changing madness.

MartinSE 03-15-2022 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ski Bum (Post 2073008)
I don't really care either way, Standard Time or DST, or do like Newfoundland and split the difference, just stop the clock changing madness.

I don't care which either, I just want ONE not two ;0

DaleDivine 03-16-2022 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072920)
Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

Woooohoooo, let's get it through the house and hopefully what's his name can sign off on it.
:pray::a040::bigbow::clap2::MOJE_whot::popcorn:

Aces4 03-16-2022 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 2072969)
Where I grew up, even when the time changed, we still caught the bus in the dark from some point in November to some point in Feb. We survived.

Yes, but back when you were a child, most likely you could hear the horses coming. ;-)

The obsession with turning the clock one hour twice a year makes it appear we’ve turned into a land of cupcakes, melting if the time is adjusted. Be sure you never leave your time zone, don’t travel overseas for business or pleasure. Don’t you wonder how the seasonal residents from different time zones survive the madness? It’s enough to cause the vapors…

dewilson58 03-16-2022 05:44 AM

Silly this is what Congress spends their time on.
:ohdear:

Annie66 03-16-2022 06:03 AM

So, let's pretend for a moment ....... if we go on DST, will we permanently be in the EST or EDT time zone?

CharlesNT 03-16-2022 06:09 AM

Good to know this is the most important thing Congress has to work on!

Stay on standard time, I’m not happy waking up in the dark!

CoachKandSportsguy 03-16-2022 06:28 AM

The farther north one goes, the more the solar clock appears differently. All this due to the analemma motion of the wobble of the earth's spinning axis. if you are on the eastern side of the time zone, the change will have a different influence than if you are on the western edge of the time zone. whatever, its only for 5 months, and there are always ying and yang for all decisions or scenarios.

a lot of nothingness, just put everyone on GMT and be done with it. no more time zone calculations, its just impossible to memorize all the individual changes when traveling. . . . again, just another lazy, unwilling to adapt opinion to make my life easier, as everyone else wants their life.

another opinionated but meaningless guy

OhioBuckeye 03-16-2022 06:55 AM

That’s exactly right!!

Malsua 03-16-2022 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2073032)
Yes, but back when you were a child, most likely you could hear the horses coming. ;-)

The obsession with turning the clock one hour twice a year makes it appear we’ve turned into a land of cupcakes, melting if the time is adjusted. Be sure you never leave your time zone, don’t travel overseas for business or pleasure. Don’t you wonder how the seasonal residents from different time zones survive the madness? It’s enough to cause the vapors…

I have something approaching a million miles in the air, I have been on 4 continents.

I am probably traveling to Germany in the next few days as I'm part of an Incident response team helping recover from a ransomware attack.

I _still_ HATE traveling east. I.E. Spring forward. 6 hours to Germany takes a couple days to get sorted. Coming back home west after a trip to Europe is a walk in the park(Fall back).

The exception is China. I don't care which way you go, 12 hours time change tends to make you a zombie for a few days.

Leave the time one way or another and I prefer light in the evening. It's stupid to keep flipping it.

Guitarman1951 03-16-2022 07:10 AM

DST is dangerous during the winter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072920)
Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

In1973, the nation went to full time DST. After one year, that was changed back. The reason was that so many children were killed walking to bus stops or school in the dark, people demanded that it be changed back. Evidently, we haven't learned from history.

Malsua 03-16-2022 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 2073057)
So, let's pretend for a moment ....... if we go on DST, will we permanently be in the EST or EDT time zone?

We will become ET and need to phone home frequently.

defrey12 03-16-2022 07:18 AM

As much as we’d like to see it pass, it probably won’t. Why? Because a Florida introduced it…and Florida doesn’t do anything right according to the Beltway Bozos. That’s how petty it’s become.

Beyond The Wall 03-16-2022 07:20 AM

Instead of working on not getting us in to a war, defending southern border, inflation, gas prices, supply chain, violent crime in cities, etc they worry about permanent time change😳. Just shows how out of touch they are.

Malsua 03-16-2022 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall (Post 2073112)
Instead of working on not getting us in to a war, defending southern border, inflation, gas prices, supply chain, violent crime in cities, etc they worry about permanent time change😳. Just shows how out of touch they are.

You do realize that staffers wrote the bill, another person on their staff summarized it to each senator and they spent probably 15 minutes voting on it. Even the two sponsors probably never spent more than an hour of their time on it.

You're acting as if people can only do one thing at a time during the day. Yes, everything else you mentioned is a priority, but this isn't detracting from any of those issues.

Joe C. 03-16-2022 07:39 AM

It's amazing..... DST ...nothing changes but the hands on the clock or the numbers on the digital clock. The amount of daylight doesn't change just because someone moves the clock back or ahead one hour.
We just get up later or go to bed earlier because we changed the time. But either way, we don't get an EXTRA hour of daylight just because we did so.

Aces4 03-16-2022 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 2073116)
You do realize that staffers wrote the bill, another person on their staff summarized it to each senator and they spent probably 15 minutes voting on it. Even the two sponsors probably never spent more than an hour of their time on it.

You're acting as if people can only do one thing at a time during the day. Yes, everything else you mentioned is a priority, but this isn't detracting from any of those issues.

Yeah, but what major, important decision could have been processed in that slot. Waste of everyone’s time these days.

Aces4 03-16-2022 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 2073093)
I have something approaching a million miles in the air, I have been on 4 continents.

I am probably traveling to Germany in the next few days as I'm part of an Incident response team helping recover from a ransomware attack.

I _still_ HATE traveling east. I.E. Spring forward. 6 hours to Germany takes a couple days to get sorted. Coming back home west after a trip to Europe is a walk in the park(Fall back).

The exception is China. I don't care which way you go, 12 hours time change tends to make you a zombie for a few days.

Leave the time one way or another and I prefer light in the evening. It's stupid to keep flipping it.

I’ve done the Europe thing, never China. A seven year old, seated in the same row, traipsing to the bathroom every 30 minutes was more difficult to deal with than the time change. I prefer light in the AM so how do we make everyone happy?

Malsua 03-16-2022 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2073136)
I’ve done the Europe thing, never China. A seven year old, seated in the same row, traipsing to the bathroom every 30 minutes was more difficult to deal with than the time change. I prefer light in the AM so how do we make everyone happy?

Switch to GMT. Seriously. "See you at 1500" It works, everywhere.

Kiddos can shift the bus schedule ahead during winter.

nn0wheremann 03-16-2022 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072920)
Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

That is nuts. In this climate life is better in the cool morning. Who wants to extend an overheated afternoon? The last time this was tried was in 1977 by Jimmy Carter. For those of us in the western part of time zones winter sunrise did not happen until almost 9:00 AM. Insane. Children waiting for school busses in the dark of night every morning. Particularly dangerous on rural roads in rural school districts. More stranger danger too, with little children out in the dark.

Bay Kid 03-16-2022 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072920)
Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

That would be nice, but good luck on them doing anything good for the people.

Byte1 03-16-2022 08:54 AM

Not all countries change their clocks. There are at least nine countries that I can think of that do not recognize or change their clocks for DST.

SeaCros 03-16-2022 09:34 AM

I can barely remember catching the bus and it not being dark in the morning. Loved coming home to have more daylight for time to play.
Like others have said this idea had been brought up/shot down so many times so only “time” will tell on how it goes.

Michael G. 03-16-2022 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072982)
You are right, I found this:

"Congress had voted on December 14, 1973, to put the US on daylight saving time for two years. President Nixon signed the bill the next day. The US had gone to permanent daylight saving time before, during World War II. Then, too, the measure was enacted to save fuel. "

Apparently everyone wanted it, and then hated it.

Also on the state level, Florida sent a bill to Washington to eliminate DLS a couple years ago.

MrFlorida 03-16-2022 09:51 AM

It works for me, I hope they pass it.

jscocco 03-16-2022 10:00 AM

Let’s see if Pelosi puts in any pork before the vote. We haven’t had a stand alone bill presented in years.

lindaelane 03-16-2022 10:09 AM

Sad
 
I am grieving.

Dark mornings, forever.

The sun shining when I am ready for bed many months of the year.

Deprived of the ability to enjoy sunset and then twilight for many months of the year.

School children waiting for buses in perpetual darkness most of the year, though they would have both left for school and come home in the light if this had not been done.

I think it is a horrible thing.

I have other reasons to consider living abroad but this certainly has added to my list.

The horror of a world where there are fewer sunsets to be seen, where mornings are always dark. I am so sad.


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