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Rainger99 04-09-2022 06:51 AM

How long does it take to build a golf course in The Villages
 
The plans show that a lot of golf courses are supposed to be built south of the Turnpike.

As far as I can tell, they have not started building them. For those of you who have been here for several years, how long does it take from starting to build a course to opening day? Same question for Executive and Championship courses. Thanks.

JMintzer 04-09-2022 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2081778)
The plans show that a lot of golf courses are supposed to be built south of the Turnpike.

As far as I can tell, they have not started building them. For those of you who have been here for several years, how long does it take from starting to build a course to opening day? Same question for Executive and Championship courses. Thanks.

Watch GoldWingNut's videos. He shows where they have already started building courses...

My guess would be 18-24 months, from start to finish...

Stu from NYC 04-09-2022 08:00 AM

No idea how long it takes in other places but 18-24 months seems about right.

They do manage to build an entire village in much less time.

Mortal1 04-09-2022 08:05 AM

1) it's a lot more complicated to build...
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2081813)
No idea how long it takes in other places but 18-24 months seems about right.

They do manage to build an entire village in much less time.

a golf course than a house. also houses sell much faster making the money invested paid back and profitable. it take years for a golf course to pay for itself.

apples and oranges

Rainger99 04-09-2022 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2081816)
a golf course than a house. also houses sell much faster making the money invested paid back and profitable. it take years for a golf course to pay for itself.

apples and oranges

But don’t they get about $150,000 or more per house for a golf course view? I would think they would want to build the courses as fast as they can so that they can collect the money!

asianthree 04-09-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2081827)
But don’t they get about $150,000 or more per house for a golf course view? I would think they would want to build the courses as fast as they can so that they can collect the money!

A view lot, is starting at $185,000

Stu from NYC 04-09-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2081829)
A view lot, is starting at $185,000

Wow for $ 185,000 prefer a mountain capped with snow but so far cannot find it here.

UpNorth 04-09-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2081833)
Wow for $ 185,000 prefer a mountain capped with snow but so far cannot find it here.

Depending on what your "view" is, you can expect golfers standing around and talking, stinky gas golf carts driving by your lanai, or foul language on the putting green. And the mower coming by at 7am in the morning. Some "golf views" are better than others.:icon_wink:

Garywt 04-09-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2081858)
Depending on what your "view" is, you can expect golfers standing around and talking, stinky gas golf carts driving by your lanai, or foul language on the putting green. And the mower coming by at 7am in the morning. Some "golf views" are better than others.:icon_wink:

Can also get a view of a smelly swamp in Chitty Chatty.

tophcfa 04-09-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2081858)
Depending on what your "view" is, you can expect golfers standing around and talking, stinky gas golf carts driving by your lanai, or foul language on the putting green. And the mower coming by at 7am in the morning. Some "golf views" are better than others.:icon_wink:

If you think the language is foul on a green, you should try a t box. A missed put only costs one stroke, a drive out of bounds means you’re hitting 3 off the T. That’s as legitimate a reason for some good old fashioned foul language as there is : )

MartinSE 04-09-2022 10:48 AM

If it takes 18 to 24 months, and it seems like something happened that shut down and slowed down construction everywhere in the world for the past two years.

I can't recall what it was, but maybe that has something to do with it.

Garywt 04-09-2022 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2081778)
The plans show that a lot of golf courses are supposed to be built south of the Turnpike.

As far as I can tell, they have not started building them. For those of you who have been here for several years, how long does it take from starting to build a course to opening day? Same question for Executive and Championship courses. Thanks.

Some have been built, how many do you have so far? At least more are coming.

Stu from NYC 04-09-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2081858)
Depending on what your "view" is, you can expect golfers standing around and talking, stinky gas golf carts driving by your lanai, or foul language on the putting green. And the mower coming by at 7am in the morning. Some "golf views" are better than others.:icon_wink:

That is why we are waiting on our mountain

MartinSE 04-09-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2081883)
That is why we are waiting on our mountain

There is always Space Mountain in Disney World - while you wait :)

Lottoguy 04-09-2022 01:51 PM

You left out golfers peeing in your bushes by your house.

Michael G. 04-09-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2081829)
A view lot, is starting at $185,000

You mean people actually pay high priced stupid green fees, on the developers land,
to hit a white ball, then chase it for hours, and get to cuss?
WOW!

tophcfa 04-09-2022 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2081925)
You mean people actually pay high priced stupid green fees, on the developers land,
to hit a white ball, then chase it for hours, and get to cuss?
WOW!

Somebody is either having a really bad day or they just don’t like golf. Oh well, time to go, live coverage of the Masters just started on CBS. Golf on : )

JMintzer 04-09-2022 03:05 PM

I'm constantly amazed at those who complain about living on a golf course.

Exactly what did you expect when you bought the lot?

My wife had a friend who sold her beautiful home in Marsh Bend after a year because she was surprised that they would be mowing the course and playing golf early in the morning...

Really? That was a surprise?

BTW, my wife met her while taking lessons at the Golf Academy...

Stu from NYC 04-09-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2081916)
There is always Space Mountain in Disney World - while you wait :)

Too noisy, want serenity now.:a040:

kansasr 04-09-2022 04:25 PM

Come see all the dust flying through Monarch Grove on a windy day! Oh, they've started!

banjobob 04-10-2022 05:24 AM

You gotta understand it lol

thevillages2013 04-10-2022 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2081876)
If you think the language is foul on a green, you should try a t box. A missed put only costs one stroke, a drive out of bounds means you’re hitting 3 off the T. That’s as legitimate a reason for some good old fashioned foul language as there is : )

Yep. They call it GOLF because all the other four letter words were taken! Hopefully golfers have switched to using the relatively new “local rule” that allows one a “drop” between the estimated point the ball went OB and the nearest part of the fairway (no closer to the hole) in lieu of hitting another off the tee. You are hitting your fourth shot from that spot. Still a good reason for expletives

thevillages2013 04-10-2022 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2081920)
You left out golfers peeing in your bushes by your house.

All the championship courses and most of the executives have well placed bathrooms on the courses but when nature calls and you have a foursome moving like a herd of turtles in front of you a shrubbery starts looking pretty convenient :boxing2:

thevillages2013 04-10-2022 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2081925)
You mean people actually pay high priced stupid green fees, on the developers land,
to hit a white ball, then chase it for hours, and get to cuss?
WOW!

You should try it you just might like it!

thevillages2013 04-10-2022 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2081778)
The plans show that a lot of golf courses are supposed to be built south of the Turnpike.

As far as I can tell, they have not started building them. For those of you who have been here for several years, how long does it take from starting to build a course to opening day? Same question for Executive and Championship courses. Thanks.

I watched the Villages video that interviewed the gentleman that is in charge of the course construction ( I think his name is Ezell). He stated the crew would build one and then move right to building the next one. They are starting with the pitch and play and putting courses so don’t get impatient. Sounded like one team building all

Haallred02@aol.com 04-10-2022 05:50 AM

New Guy
 
I know the new ones by The new Sawgrass square were started less than a year ago and they are almost completed. Here in Florida it’s a lot quicker than others.

Altavia 04-10-2022 06:23 AM

There are two Championship, one Executive and two pitch n put in work now (mostly ground clearing and sculpting at this point in time.) And at least three more Exec's announced in planning.

Where else is anyone building golf courses, much less multiple golf courses?

Being able to add $150-$300k profit per homesite with a view is a huge motivation.

mbswitzer 04-10-2022 06:49 AM

Southern Oaks
 
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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2081778)
The plans show that a lot of golf courses are supposed to be built south of the Turnpike.

As far as I can tell, they have not started building them. For those of you who have been here for several years, how long does it take from starting to build a course to opening day? Same question for Executive and Championship courses. Thanks.

I don't know exactly, but a review of Google Earth shows construction on Southern Oaks hadn't begun yet in November 2019, and the course opened in November of 2021. So that one appears like it took a little under two years.

Ptmckiou 04-10-2022 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2081827)
But don’t they get about $150,000 or more per house for a golf course view? I would think they would want to build the courses as fast as they can so that they can collect the money!

Most new houses on a golf course in the new area now start at $500,000. Just the lot costs for a great view are now $250,000 to $325,000. The average Veranda or Designer homes with a view lot start at $650,000.

Stu from NYC 04-10-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ptmckiou (Post 2082097)
Most new houses on a golf course in the new area now start at $500,000. Just the lot costs for a great view are now $250,000 to $325,000. The average Veranda or Designer homes with a view lot start at $650,000.

Wow nice to look out and see a golf course but for that kind of money will pass.

ScottGo 04-10-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 2082045)
There are two Championship, one Executive and two pitch n put in work now (mostly ground clearing and sculpting at this point in time.) And at least three more Exec's announced in planning.

Where else is anyone building golf courses, much less multiple golf courses?

Being able to add $150-$300k profit per homesite with a view is a huge motivation.

I don't know squat about golf courses. What's the difference between an Executive and a Championship? Both have 18 holes and Tees, fairways, sand traps, and greens with ponds.

photo1902 04-10-2022 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottGo (Post 2082167)
I don't know squat about golf courses. What's the difference between an Executive and a Championship? Both have 18 holes and Tees, fairways, sand traps, and greens with ponds.

No. In The Villages, Executive courses only have 9 holes.

Bilyclub 04-10-2022 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottGo (Post 2082167)
I don't know squat about golf courses. What's the difference between an Executive and a Championship? Both have 18 holes and Tees, fairways, sand traps, and greens with ponds.

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2082171)
No. In The Villages, Executive courses only have 9 holes.


Most of the Championship courses have 27 holes.

G.R.I.T.S. 04-10-2022 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2081878)
If it takes 18 to 24 months, and it seems like something happened that shut down and slowed down construction everywhere in the world for the past two years.

I can't recall what it was, but maybe that has something to do with it.

Construction wasn't shut down here. We are very fortunate.:pray:

justjim 04-10-2022 02:20 PM

Not a Premier but a Designer Begonia pre-owned home on the Belle Glade golf course (with a pool) is selling for 1.4 million in LaBelle North. There are no golf course lots for sale in The Villages and won’t be for a year or more given the length of time it takes to build a course. Given the demand, golf course lots will likely sell for 200,000 plus in the next 18 months. To each his own.

Bogie Shooter 04-10-2022 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottGo (Post 2082167)
I don't know squat about golf courses. What's the difference between an Executive and a Championship? Both have 18 holes and Tees, fairways, sand traps, and greens with ponds.

A place for you to learn…….
Golf The Villages

Marathon Man 04-10-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottGo (Post 2082167)
I don't know squat about golf courses. What's the difference between an Executive and a Championship? Both have 18 holes and Tees, fairways, sand traps, and greens with ponds.

What is an Executive Golf Course? And Who Can Play One?

Stu from NYC 04-10-2022 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2082213)
Not a Premier but a Designer Begonia pre-owned home on the Belle Glade golf course (with a pool) is selling for 1.4 million in LaBelle North. There are no golf course lots for sale in The Villages and won’t be for a year or more given the length of time it takes to build a course. Given the demand, golf course lots will likely sell for 200,000 plus in the next 18 months. To each his own.

Wonder if someone would like to buy our Begonia and move it to a golf course? Would do it for 10% less.

jimjamuser 04-10-2022 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2081778)
The plans show that a lot of golf courses are supposed to be built south of the Turnpike.

As far as I can tell, they have not started building them. For those of you who have been here for several years, how long does it take from starting to build a course to opening day? Same question for Executive and Championship courses. Thanks.

The real question about building a golf course is why waste so much space on one in the 1st place. Soon there will be indoor computer sensor devices that can reproduce the good parts of the golf game without the waste of things like area and the use of excessive fertilizers that runoff and hurt the water table.

thevillages2013 04-10-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottGo (Post 2082167)
I don't know squat about golf courses. What's the difference between an Executive and a Championship? Both have 18 holes and Tees, fairways, sand traps, and greens with ponds.

Executive golf courses are only for bigwig executives from the largest corporations in the USA. Championship courses well , you have to have a trophy from something ( even if it’s a participation trophy) in order to play there. I won a spelling bee in the second grade so I qualify! Dang I wish I could play executive courses though :boxing2:


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