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Laker14 04-14-2022 09:25 AM

Aeration For My Lawn
 
The Massey guy was here doing his thing and he made a recommendation for having the lawn aerated. A service they, of course, provide. $190, for our corner lot, which doesn't seem outrageous to me for the service, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to lawn care.
It's a St. Augustine lawn.
I'm curious to hear some opinions from more knowledgable folks. Is this a service that one would expect to need to be done from time to time?

Joeint 04-14-2022 09:39 AM

Just my opinion with sand being the base for most lawns I don't think aeration is needed. And if properly maintained dethatching is not needed either. I mulch my clippings and haven't dethatched or aerated in the 3 years I've been here and have one of the best looking lawns around, I live on a corner lot also.

Keefelane66 04-14-2022 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2083457)
The Massey guy was here doing his thing and he made a recommendation for having the lawn aerated. A service they, of course, provide. $190, for our corner lot, which doesn't seem outrageous to me for the service, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to lawn care.
It's a St. Augustine lawn.
I'm curious to hear some opinions from more knowledgable folks. Is this a service that one would expect to need to be done from time to time?

What explanation did he give is your lawn in distress? I have heard at his for St Augustine “ When St. Augustine grass is growing vigorously, it produces new growth on top of older growth. Over time, a spongy layer of dead leaves and stems, called thatch, accumulates. Verticutting basically chops through the grass runners, allowing the dead material to be removed.”

Stu from NYC 04-14-2022 09:54 AM

Have not heard of aeration being needed here but hopefully some more knowledgable folks will chime in.

Calisport 04-14-2022 10:43 AM

a youtube video guy that talks about lawn care said aeration shouldn't be done in Spring when the lawn is starting up again. HowtowithDoc youtube.

thelegges 04-14-2022 10:48 AM

Give Adam from black Cow a call. He is honest, and will tell you if you need a service done. Have used Adam since 2010. Office staff is great, along with his outside staff

DAVES 04-14-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2083457)
The Massey guy was here doing his thing and he made a recommendation for having the lawn aerated. A service they, of course, provide. $190, for our corner lot, which doesn't seem outrageous to me for the service, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to lawn care.
It's a St. Augustine lawn.
I'm curious to hear some opinions from more knowledgable folks. Is this a service that one would expect to need to be done from time to time?

Like most things there is no shortage of different OPINIONS. Like everything else that is true of lawn care as well. Most if not all of the lawn service companies are in the business of SELLING YOU something. We have the cooperative extension and the advice, the OPINIONS are free. They are not all as qualified but often if, they don't know they know who to ask.

The Villages is huge and the soil is not the same throughout the villages. I would suggest a soil test, cost is around 6-$20 to know what your parcel of land is.

Typical lawn aeration, they run a machine over your lawn and remove plugs of grass and soil. They if, you look at what they remove, They go down 1 or 2 inches and give you a bill. The roots of your lawn should be down 6-8 inches.

We all of us expect, demand instant results. Lawn, a garden does not work that way. It is a long term adventure. Most of the villages is sandy, clay with a lot of limestone in it.
Adding organic matter to the SOIL improves the drainage, the ability to hold water and reduce the fact that most of our lawns are built on sandy. clay with a too high PH-alkaline soil. Organic matter it takes quite a bit and it needs to be incorporated into the soil. Laying it on top does nothing.

eeroger 04-15-2022 05:27 AM

Lawn Aeration
 
$190 is Outrageous for a designer lot! I have a large corner lot in a premier neighborhood and pay Adam's Earth a little over $100 for aeration. Massey also uses a machine with very small prongs. Adam's Earth prongs are twice as big. Does a much better job, if aeration is needed.

bowlingal 04-15-2022 06:25 AM

call a company named Adams Earth. They did my dethatching and aeration . Definitely worth the 5 minute phone call. Professional company specializing in these procedures, unlike Massey.

Oneiric 04-15-2022 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2083457)
The Massey guy was here doing his thing and he made a recommendation for having the lawn aerated. A service they, of course, provide. $190, for our corner lot, which doesn't seem outrageous to me for the service, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to lawn care.
It's a St. Augustine lawn.
I'm curious to hear some opinions from more knowledgable folks. Is this a service that one would expect to need to be done from time to time?

Most of the lots south of 466 have a sandy soil, for which aeration really isn't needed, unless you have a tremendous thatch build up. Cutting your grass very low initially in the spring can help remove excess thatch.

midiwiz 04-15-2022 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2083457)
The Massey guy was here doing his thing and he made a recommendation for having the lawn aerated. A service they, of course, provide. $190, for our corner lot, which doesn't seem outrageous to me for the service, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to lawn care.
It's a St. Augustine lawn.
I'm curious to hear some opinions from more knowledgable folks. Is this a service that one would expect to need to be done from time to time?


then you must be south of 44, the rest is zoysia. So for St augustine here's the history of having this done - don't bother. we did it for 3 years, we also fired Massey afterwards for that and many other reasons. That aside, what benefits St Augustine turf is air, but not plugs or as we call them 'dirt turds' . It does nothing to help and actually can hurt. If your yard is going south, there are several things that work very well that we did to get a deep green tall lawn -

1) grow it 3 - 3.5" thick
2) dethatch lawn every 3-5 years with a tine (not blade) dethatcher (allows turf to breathe )
3) water 30 minutes 3 times per week and 50 in the summer
4) double the cinch bug feeding every spring early. we criss cross until we get rid of 2 large bags also why you want it taller, less for them to damage

That worked for 12 years, had the best lawn on the block also I should mention as you might not recognize that so many lawns have the root stack showing by the curb etc.... I never did once I did this.

PennBF 04-15-2022 07:40 AM

Massey
 
We also fired Massey as they nearly destroyed our total lawn by ignoring a sizable area of bareness from the historical good lawn. After firing them we hired Dean and now have a very good lawn back. It's alleged the driver spent more time sitting in the truck and making up the bills than the time to care for the lawn!! :ohdear:

TFordos 04-15-2022 08:14 AM

I had it done...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2083457)
The Massey guy was here doing his thing and he made a recommendation for having the lawn aerated. A service they, of course, provide. $190, for our corner lot, which doesn't seem outrageous to me for the service, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to lawn care.
It's a St. Augustine lawn.
I'm curious to hear some opinions from more knowledgable folks. Is this a service that one would expect to need to be done from time to time?

I had it done by my lawn people for $100, and it did nothing that I can see that helped anything. To me, it was a waste, and I think St. Augustine grass would need it even less.
Tom

Laker14 04-15-2022 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2083712)
then you must be south of 44, the rest is zoysia. So for St augustine here's the history of having this done - don't bother. we did it for 3 years, we also fired Massey afterwards for that and many other reasons. That aside, what benefits St Augustine turf is air, but not plugs or as we call them 'dirt turds' . It does nothing to help and actually can hurt. If your yard is going south, there are several things that work very well that we did to get a deep green tall lawn -

1) grow it 3 - 3.5" thick
2) dethatch lawn every 3-5 years with a tine (not blade) dethatcher (allows turf to breathe )
3) water 30 minutes 3 times per week and 50 in the summer
4) double the cinch bug feeding every spring early. we criss cross until we get rid of 2 large bags also why you want it taller, less for them to damage

That worked for 12 years, had the best lawn on the block also I should mention as you might not recognize that so many lawns have the root stack showing by the curb etc.... I never did once I did this.

Thanks for your input. I am north of 466A, in Poinciana. Lots of St. Augustine grass around. Probably 10:1 St. Augustine to Zoysia around my house.

zendog3 04-15-2022 09:52 AM

I am not a turf expert but I live on a golf course.The folks who runs the golf courses have turf professionals and they aerate the courses. Maybe different terms need different care.

Two Bills 04-15-2022 09:53 AM

Not familiar with your grasses, but most lawns need Aeration when drainage/compaction is a problem.
With the light soils in TV area, I would not see a need for the service.
De-thatching and/or top dressing could be beneficial.

petsetc 04-15-2022 10:12 AM

Adam's Earth, ADAM'S EARTH...FORMERLY COMPOST COW MANURE . Aeration and dethatch. Book on-line, prices on line.

I've have used him several times for aeration and dethatch and sprinklers - only guy to use.

JMHO

Two Bills 04-15-2022 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petsetc (Post 2083818)
Adam's Earth, ADAM'S EARTH...FORMERLY COMPOST COW MANURE . Aeration and dethatch. Book on-line, prices on line.

I've have used him several times for aeration and dethatch and skinklers - only guy to use.

JMHO

My God!
You have skinklers in you lawn.
That is a nightmare to treat!:icon_wink:

DaleDivine 04-15-2022 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eeroger (Post 2083662)
$190 is Outrageous for a designer lot! I have a large corner lot in a premier neighborhood and pay Adam's Earth a little over $100 for aeration. Massey also uses a machine with very small prongs. Adam's Earth prongs are twice as big. Does a much better job, if aeration is needed.

Definitely call Adams Earth. They're pros.
:welcome:

DaleDivine 04-15-2022 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2083712)
then you must be south of 44, the rest is zoysia. So for St augustine here's the history of having this done - don't bother. we did it for 3 years, we also fired Massey afterwards for that and many other reasons. That aside, what benefits St Augustine turf is air, but not plugs or as we call them 'dirt turds' . It does nothing to help and actually can hurt. If your yard is going south, there are several things that work very well that we did to get a deep green tall lawn -

1) grow it 3 - 3.5" thick
2) dethatch lawn every 3-5 years with a tine (not blade) dethatcher (allows turf to breathe )
3) water 30 minutes 3 times per week and 50 in the summer
4) double the cinch bug feeding every spring early. we criss cross until we get rid of 2 large bags also why you want it taller, less for them to damage

That worked for 12 years, had the best lawn on the block also I should mention as you might not recognize that so many lawns have the root stack showing by the curb etc.... I never did once I did this.

Lots of homes north of 44 have St. Augustine...
:ohdear::ohdear:

rogerk 04-15-2022 11:02 AM

Tru Green recommended the same for my lawn. I can't remember the price but $199 so similar. I think it did help my St Augustine lawn.

jarodrig 04-15-2022 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zendog3 (Post 2083809)
I am not a turf expert but I live on a golf course.The folks who runs the golf courses have turf professionals and they aerate the courses. Maybe different terms need different care.

Given the horrible condition of the majority of golf courses here in TV, I would hardly call those folks “turf professionals” !!!

In fact, I would probably do the opposite of what they do !

Possible exception would be Glenview CC

valuemkt 04-15-2022 11:09 AM

Another vote for Adam

2GSBK 04-15-2022 12:22 PM

Call Adams-Earth, he’s honest, reasonable prices.

Larchap49 04-15-2022 01:38 PM

Lawn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2083457)
The Massey guy was here doing his thing and he made a recommendation for having the lawn aerated. A service they, of course, provide. $190, for our corner lot, which doesn't seem outrageous to me for the service, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to lawn care.
It's a St. Augustine lawn.
I'm curious to hear some opinions from more knowledgable folks. Is this a service that one would expect to need to be done from time to time?

It is beneficial to your lawn

courtyard 04-15-2022 04:52 PM

I used to take my golf shoes with the spikes and walk around my lawn to aerate it.

OhioBuckeye 04-16-2022 08:45 AM

You took the words right out of my mouth!

kcrazorbackfan 04-16-2022 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 2083497)
Give Adam from black Cow a call. He is honest, and will tell you if you need a service done. Have used Adam since 2010. Office staff is great, along with his outside staff

Phone #?

photo1902 04-16-2022 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2084398)
Phone #?

Google is your friend

ADAM'S EARTH...FORMERLY COMPOST COW MANURE


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