Ryobi 20 in battery self propelled II
 

Back again but with a new mower. This one starts and runs but the blade is not cutting all the time. It is w waste of time to try to mow.

Customer serviced is closed until Monday.

Any easy fix suggestions? This is very frustrating.

Thank you for any replies.

The battery is fully charged but the mother seen very weak turning the blade.

Is the grass too long for motor?
Could try on shorter grass.

Is the mounting bolt tight to prevent the blade from slipping?

Shear pin sheared?

Sounds like the on-going business of selling the general public some expensive unproven defective product,
while the manufacture sits back and says: 'Will, that didn't work, lets try something else".

Best suggestion would be to return it and get a gas mower.

Sell your mower, hire someone to cut the lawn for you for a couple of bucks a month. When the humidity and heat comes more frequently you be glad you did.

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Take that “mother” back . Did you order online or buy in a store. Not a great idea to buy items such as a mower online. If you take the piece of junk back to a store you can get some instant results

Where do you find a grass cutter for a "couple of bucks a month"?
:popcorn::popcorn:

Google the problem and there is an issue with the Ryobi. Take it back for credit and purchase a better proven brand. Ryobi is known for small cordless tools not lawnmowers.

I just went through 3 lawn mowers Ryobi--battery run--350.00 model-due to the blades not working--(Home Depot) -they upgraded me to the next level--499.00---cuts great--there is something wrong from factory on that model--just happened last week..No I don't know the exact model 20 ?21?--just price-

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I just went through 3 lawn mowers Ryobi--battery run--350.00 model-due to the blades not working--(Home Depot) -they upgraded me to the next level--499.00---cuts great--there is something wrong from factory on that model--just happened last week..No I don't know the exact model 20 ?21?--just price-

I have been researching battery mowers.

The new Milwaukee battery powered mower is apparently super powerful, good enough for commercial..but will cost you quite a bit more than "a couple bucks a month". Have also seen the E Go mower is good (not as powerful as M) for residential yards and costs less than the Milwaukee.

I'm currently using a 13 year old Honda and thinking another year might result in more advancements in battery powered mowers. Plus, my Honda is running like a champ!

Any chance the blade is mounted flipped over? So the cutting edges are not the leading edge.

Idk the answer to your problem. But if it turns out you need a new mower the battery powered self propelled cobalt works great on our St Augustine lawn. 2 years now and no problems.

Keep the Honda, my 30 year old Honda mower is still running like a champ.

I’ve been saying all along battery operating equipment isn’t the way to go. I bet that battery operating mower wasn’t cheap either wait until 2023 when farmers will be forced to buy electric farm equipment to buy a $900,000. Combine, to get a charge out in the middle of the field. John Deere are working on it now. Once they which over to electric they’ll be no going back! Well I’m sure your mower is under warranty, take it back!

Woah! PLEASE give me a reference for ANYONE that will mow (and not kill) my grass for a COUPLE DOLLARS a month. We paid $90 to $120 per month for two years and got crap service. I then mowed the lawn for a few months, using a perfectly good DeWalt Electric Mower, until we found a private individual who does an excellent job and charges us $45/mth (we give him a significant tip to bring it up to something higher).

If you know someone that will mow my lawn for $2/mth - and do a good job, I will definitely pay a finders fee.

Here is that word "FORCED" again... sigh. Please instead of using code, tell us how some one is being FORCED to buy things?

And I use all DeWalt electric tools (sanders, routers, drills, mower, steering edger, etc etc etc.) So that I have a set of batteries that work on all of them. And they are PERFECT. Stunningly good and better than my previous gas equivalent. When I had 11 acres to mow, I never considered an electric, but now with a postage stamp.

Maybe you are right, maybe I should buy a enclosed air-conditioned, Chrome plated V8 powered zero turn riding mower with a built in home theater entertainment system, refrigerator and glass pack exhaust system. Then me, and my neighbors have have drag races to see who can mow their lawn the fastest in the most comfort - I expect around 3 seconds will be attainable.

Sorry for the sarcasm, I guess I see so many arguments telling everyone that uses electric anything how wrong they are. It has progressed to just being funny.

Kind of like getting a chuckle when I see a Ferrari standing in Traffic on the I5 in LA.

Electric lawnmowers rock.

The lots are small and we have many retired residents that should have enough time to mow their own lawns. Electric push mowers are ideal for getting some exercise. They are nice and QUIET and start instantly every time. You can pick cool times in the morning or late evening if you are worried about the sun and too much heat.
You can decrease the area of grass to be cut by making a rock garden or rock circles around trees - showing increased creativity and uniqueness. Make sure to get "mommy-may-I" permission to do this.

I have had good luck with KOBALT mowers.

DC electric motors have high torque capability and other advantages over gas engines. Such as not having pistons flopping back and forth. And the creepy cheap diaphragm carburetor on gas lawnmowers is a design waiting to fail. Not sure if they use injectors now, but those could gum up. Honda makes quality equipment. But, the future is electric and many consumers are slow to respond to any changes.

Can I assume you Mastered in Understatement at College?

DeWalt makes quality battery-powered equipment. I liked the sarcasm. And we DO have postage size yards. I would cut a 1-acre yard up north with a push-type early battery-powered lawnmower, no problem because I was 10 years younger then. So, it was just a fun exercise for me then. And I saved a lot of money using electricity rather than gas. Today, gas prices are much higher and could go up....way up....with world problems.

Yes, I took a class in Mild Sarcasm. It changed my life......many pretty and witty co-eds loved that class.

Understand. On my 10 acres in N. Florida I only mowed the road easement along two sides. I measured it one and that was a 5 mile walk almost every week in in the summer (back and forth over and over 20 times for 1/4 mile).

Ah, but I was so much older then
I’m younger than that now...

Wait! Are you sure you don’t want a battery operated mower that when something goes wrong with it no one in this state (and it’s a great state) knows how to fix it. Toro gas mower here. Stihl trimmer, edger and blower.

Me thinks you spelled suck wrong

I love my Ryobi 40V dual blade mower. Quiet, ease to operate and easy to store. I use it up north, not in FL.

The only issue that I have ever had is that one of the two 6amp batteries that came with the mower had one of the LEDs not lighting when fully charged. I don't know if it was just a bad LED bulb or one set of cells not charging and, therefore, lighting the light. Ryobi sent me a replacement 6amp battery and told me to keep the defective one as a spare.

I have a number of Ryobi tools for a several years and they've all worked great, too. Batteries have been interchangeable for generations of their tools, unlike some other brands that have occasionally changed battery mount style.

YMMV

Never understood why female students were called co-eds. Male students weren't called eds, were they?
😯???

Return it and get an EGO their mowers are the best electrics available.

Mine does my corner lot takes about 45 minutes on one charge and has power left cuts the grass without problem

All I’m saying is only a few people will be able to afford electric cars they will be only for the elite not for everybody, including me. There’s charging stations you have to put in your home, not cheap, you can only go so far on a charge, then you have to use gas or spend an hr. waiting to batteries to charge & eventually you’ll be charge for that. Then getting new batteries, dealers say in about 10 yrs. to me that’s BS, I worked in a Engine Auto Plant for 38 yrs. Batteries to replace in your electric car will cost at least $8,000. today & as time goes on you know that price will go up a lot. Then you have to pay someone to dispose of the 10+ batteries. People don’t realize the expense of owning an electric vehicle. Now our president is pushing electric farm equipment to the market in 2023. Can you imagine how much food prices will go up. If you think this is a good thing, hooray! I’m not a fan of electric transportation, I might of worked in a U.S. auto plant for 38 yrs. & I agree I don’t know what’s kept secret behind closed doors but I do know more than the average American. Do what you want, but not me!

At my college, the male students were called.............DEAD-EDS.

Well, let's see - I'm glad you know what goes on behind closed doors. It is sad you feel competed to insinuate something but not say, but since you won't, lets look at the FACTS starting with a little history.

Automobiles were invented in the 1700's - mostly steam-powered. ONLY the rich could afford them. Almost 200 years later (1885) Karl Benz invented the gasoline-powered automobile. Only the rich could afford them. Then, 23 years later, in 1908 Ford invented the Model T, only the middle class could afford them, but it launched the era of the ICE-powered automobile.

Electric automobiles were developed in 1800, and only the rich could afford them. They were very expensive and not very "good". When ICE became available, in 1908, electric cars pretty much fell out of favor because it was not able to complete on cost and range.

The point of my little history lesson is, that we have been here before. From Benz's (eventually became Mercedes Benz) invention in 1885 to Ford making it affordable in 1908 took about 23 years.

Tesla began in 2003 (about 20 years ago) and EVERYONE laughed. NO one believed it was possible for a small startup with no experience to make an automobile that could compete with the "big boys", much less an EV. The idea that an EV could be successful was at best a joke. Now, 19 years later Tesla has revolutionized the manufacturing process, has revolutionized the battery industry, and can not make them fast enough - they are currently back-ordered by almost a year. There IS demand.

Telsa just opened its GIGA factory in Texas which is a revolutionary factory unlike any other auto manufacturer in the world. It won't be the last. When Ford "invented" mass production with his factory, he became part of launching the industrial revolution. Musk is in some ways having the same impact today.

At this point, almost every auto manufacturer in the world has announced it will be selling EVs soon. Many already do, with some of those costing as little as $15,000 and less, witness Atomic Car, which is street legal and has a "usable" local range, but not so great for long-distance trips. There are a plethora of new models coming from China, Korea, Japan, and other countries that are CHEAP. Not so great quality, not so great range, not so great features, but very very affordable for running back and forth to work and the grocery store and taking the kids to school. VERY affordable to the middle and even in some cases the lower class. All of these alternatives in just 19 years.

To help speed the adoption, Tesla makes its innovative design available to any company that wants to compete with them.

Henry Ford was by far one of the most imperative inventors of the Industrial Revolution. His primary invention, the automobile, changed life as we know it. It enabled people to go wherever they wanted whenever they wanted. The automobile modernizes the transportation industry entirely.

There was MAJOR resistance to ICE automobiles, but eventually, they won. We are in the same situation now, We are on the onramp. EVs are here. supply and diversity will follow shortly as all the world's manufacturers jump on board. NO ONE IS forcing anyone or any company. There are incentives to make the change, but no force.

I won't bother correcting many of your statements, like having to pay to dispose of batteries. NO, they are recycled. not buried. And Musk again with Tesla is leading the way in innovation in designing batteries that are easier to manufacture and recycle.

Electric cars are here. There are affordable EVs for everyone already. That affordable alternative will not compete on specs with ICE cars, but in many cases, the EV is significantly less expensive to own and operate for LOCAL applications. Maybe those local applications will change the design of cities (ICE enabled suburbs, EV may bring back down towns?)

Some say the EV is not affordable, but every single time I have seen that statement, they then leap into 1000-mile journeys across the country. But, 1000-mile trips make up an extremely small percentage of the use cases for automobiles. So, tell me how does it make financial sense for a person to own a land yacht (Ford Expedition) to drive back and forth daily to work, school and shopping? I see, it seems, half of the cars in the Publix parking lot are SUVs. I expect MOST of those SUVs drove less than 5 miles to get to the store. Seriously? That is affordable? Maybe to you, but lower middle class and poor Americans would LOVE an EV they could afford - Atomic Car and the like are extremely enticing alternatives to ICE for everyday use. Plug it in every night, never pay for gas again, and reduce maintenance and operational cost.

One more thing that is important to point out. A LOT of people have shorted Tesla for a long time. Those people stand to (and have) lost billions of dollars. Many of those people spend a significant amount of money financing misinformation campaigns about EVs in hopes they can make the Tesla stock crash and hence clean up on the short positions. Be very careful where you get your FACTS.


Ignoring the political tint, "People don’t realize the expense of owning an electric vehicle. Now our president is pushing electric farm equipment to the market in 2023. Can you imagine how much food prices will go up?"

Actually, people DO realize the expense of owning an EV. Ask any Tesla owner, they are thrilled and gush about how INEXPENSIVE it is for Total Cost of Ownership.

John Deere is "electrifying" its product line. I expect they are doing it to make money, not because someone forced them to.

Police departments are buying Teslas and reporting they are less expensive for the department to buy and operate. So, they are ordering more.

I expect you IMAGINED how much food prices will go up. I expect the corporate offices are more interested in the bottom line than they are in what kind of technology is in their tractors. And they are interested in EVs.

The Trucking industry is literally drooling to get EV Tractors in their fleets. Combine EV tractor with Full Self Driving and the cost to the trucking companies drops massively. Sadly, that will cost almost 4 million truck driver jobs directly. But, it will not be the first time an entire job market is destroyed by an advance in technology. It is called "progress" it comes with a cost.

We could all still be driving horse-drawn wagons and wagon wheels would still be a major industry.

[WOW! I think I just set a new record for post length - even for my insanely long rambling posts...!]

Yet you ignore that the electric grid cannot support all of these new EVs. Yes, in time, maybe they will, but that is DECADES in the future, if ever at all...

CA is currently having so much trouble supplying electricity that they have recommended that people NOT charge their vehicles at night, during peak electric usage...

Yes, technology moves faster today than in ye olden days, but so what? Past performance does not predict future earnings... :icon_wink:

You think farmers are chomping at the bit to go electric? No, it'll be mandated.

And using the Atomic car as an example of affordable EVs is a joke. It's usage is so limited as to be useless for families, or if you dare venture near a highway...

They are like the "Smart Car" that was supposed to take the country by storm. How many of those do you see on a regular basis? For urban living DINKs, they have a limited appeal, but elsewhere? They're a toy...

You complain about someone "imagining" price increases due to EV trucking, yet your entire post (save the history lesson, which is informative, but not apropos to today) is nothing but YOUR imagination, speculating what MAY happen in the future...

Well, it appears your rebuttal was focused mainly on infrastructure, society, and use cases remaining constant. With population movements yet, the industrial revolution resulted in a MASSIVE movement into cities, resulting in significant demand for "downtowns" to change and massive infrastructure changes (food grown thousands of miles away instead of in the local farm)

And the grid, an area I worked in for about 10 years. The grid is an archaic design that needs to go away. It is vulnerable to natural and terrorist attacks. Outages are common. It is NOT a reliable source of energy. It should be replaced with a distributed generation system (which was being investigated by APS and Universities for a long time), which I predict the EV movement into both civilian population and industry will drive. Technology for distributed generation is advancing. I have NO idea what/which will win. A few examples are fuel cells for the home (available in commercial production today), solar panels and storage batteries for the home (available in commercial distribution today), micro-nuclear plants in the home (in development), hydrogen (in development, some commercial products available today), geothermal and hydro (both available today), and wind (available today). Most are possible today, most are not yet practical. But, I can assure you power companies a not happy about the potential of losing their monopolies. And are doing their best to pass legislation, buy politicians, and have disinformation campaigns to denigrate those alternatives.

Uh, no, I didn't say FARMERS are chomping at the bits, I said large corporations, including the massive food industry, are interested only in the bottom line and don't care what engine is in the tractors and factories. I did say, John Deere, a sort of a not small name in that field is offering an electric drivetrain soon/now?

I did say trucking companies are "chomping at the bit" or more accurately - DROOLING to get EVs with FSD. And they are. The cost-saving there is massive. Kenworth and Freightliner are already committed to (are supplying?) electric drive trains.

Anyway, I agree, TODAY the grid will not support 300 million EVs on the road (the number of ICE vehicles registered in this country.) The good news is that TODAY's EV production is at (best case) a couple million per year. So, we have at least decades (your estimate) to "Fix" the infrastructure. Other countries are "fixing" it much faster than the US. I will leave it to the reader to noodle out WHY the US instead of leading the world in this area of new tech growth is, in fact, lagging behind the rest of the world.

And the difference between my post and the "imagine the cost" post, is I provided a rather lengthy discussion of WHY I think this is the direction of the future of EVs. And my predictions are based on what the various industries are saying and doing.

I guess the alternative to market driving the evolution of EV is that some cabal is FORCING people to buy Teslas. hmmm. maybe, maybe movies are inserting subliminal suggestions in-between frames. I heard "a lot of people saying" Musk has developed technology to compel people to buy Tesla's even if they don't want them.

And of course, my references to police departments are TRUE, my reference to pent-up demand for OTR Tractors is TRUE, and my reference to every Tesla owner loving their cars and gushing about savings is TRUE. So, for my "Imagine" there is some basis.

Thank you for your interesting post. It was a good rebuttal and made me think about what I had said and how I can improve my position.

BTW, the 1908 Model T was about $900 (about $30,000 in today's dollars) by 1915 that price was reduced to about $300 or $10,000 in today's dollars. Gasoline was not produced intentionally, it was a waste product of making kerosene. And anyone that wanted it bought it in 5-gallon cans at the local hardware stores. By 1920 there were federally funded concrete highways (very hard on horse hooves, the primary means of transportation for most of the middle and lower class at that time) and a ubiquitous network of "gasoline stations". Many were at that time still pumping the gas into a can and then pouring it into the car. Many people were filling 55-gallon cans and taking them home on their horse-drawn wagons to fuel the gas-powered cars.

There was a MASSIVE infrastructure change required. We invested almost countless trillions of today's dollars in infrastructure.

Today, we can't even pass a bill to fix leaky water pipes and falling down bridges around the country, so I expect the infrastructure changes required for EVs will be slower - here in the US. On that, I agree with you. Our current infrastructure can't deal with the massive adoption of EVs. But, I have faith in our predatory capitalism system. Once big business sees there is more profit in EVs Congress will suddenly "see the light" and pass massive infrastructure research and development projects which will lead to massive new good-paying jobs. And all of a sudden the ney sayers will start cheering. Cats and dogs will start sleeping together, and birds will sing, the sun will shine and ... well you get the idea.

But, that is my "dream". I hope to live long enough to see how it really turns out.

(OH and compare the Atomic Car to the Model T - AC, radio, power windows, roof, windows longer range, etc. - VASSTLY better)

Then why did you try to compare the Model T to the Atomic car?

MLK aside, a dream is a wish your heart makes... :icon_wink:

I repeat watch Who Killed the Electric Car.
who killed the electric car - Google Search

I was just thinking about how the Model T was so admired and it was a really basic thing, that sold like hot cakes (why do hot cakes sell so well?) And you mentioned the Atomic Car (you brought it up) as a toy, and it being one of the first street legal almost real EVs (sot of like the Model T was in its day) and yet, it is MUCH more of a practical car than the Model T was. I agree, for it's time the Model T was a serious invention, unlike the Atomic Car which might be best described as "dumbing down" of a average car. But, I don't agree it is a toy. For someone working two less than minimum wage jobs supporting a husband and three kids, the Atomic car is a very viable option from a cost performance perspective. Might be a toy for you and me.

Agree on dreams...