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Plinker 04-23-2022 05:34 PM

Repair Crack in Porch Ceiling
 
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Is this a do-it-yourself job or time to hire a professional?
I fix 95% of problems but not sure how to address this.

NoMo50 04-24-2022 07:26 AM

Your crack would appear to be along the joint line of two (or more) sheets of drywall. Simply filling the crack with mud and repainting will not fix it. Most likely, the crack has opened up due to movement in the structural framing above the sheetrock. To properly address this, the entire area along the crack should be opened up, and find what is "loose" up above. Once that is addressed, new sheetrock can be installed, properly attached to secure framing members, re-taped, textured, and painted. This is not a job for the faint of heart...i.e., might be time to hire a good drywall pro.

retiredguy123 04-24-2022 07:43 AM

That is a very common problem. I agree that filling the crack and painting will not fix it, and the ceiling texture will not match. One simple solution is the cover the crack with a piece of vinyl trim painted to match the ceiling. I would not attempt to mess with the structural framing unless the crack gets much larger.

Two Bills 04-24-2022 07:52 AM

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Consider cost.
As fault is not dangerous and just cosmetic, I would suggest something like image.
Cheap and aesthetic.

Attachment 93476

Plastic T Sections are made from external grade PVC and are suited to many applications such as gap covers, joint filler and edge strips.

mulligan 04-24-2022 08:00 AM

The problem is that the builders are too cheap to use the correct drywall product. It is called soffit board. It is resistant to temperature/humidity changes found on a lanai, garage ceiling, or an exposed soffit.

dewilson58 04-24-2022 08:13 AM

It's an easy fix with mesh, but consider the location and you on a ladder in "that position". :ohdear:

thevillages2013 04-25-2022 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2088021)
Your crack would appear to be along the joint line of two (or more) sheets of drywall. Simply filling the crack with mud and repainting will not fix it. Most likely, the crack has opened up due to movement in the structural framing above the sheetrock. To properly address this, the entire area along the crack should be opened up, and find what is "loose" up above. Once that is addressed, new sheetrock can be installed, properly attached to secure framing members, re-taped, textured, and painted. This is not a job for the faint of heart...i.e., might be time to hire a good drywall pro.

Absolutely no one who knows what they are doing is going to recommend removing Sheetrock to fix a crack. If it were falling off the ceiling then maybe

oldyeller 04-25-2022 05:09 AM

I had the same issue. I bought 1/4-in x 3/4-in unfinished wood strips, painted them and screwed them to the ceiling covering the cracks. Looks fine.

Madelaine Amee 04-25-2022 06:06 AM

Call Investment Painters and get it done properly. They are the best and most reasonable.

bobbyb60 04-25-2022 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Plinker (Post 2087849)
Is this a do-it-yourself job or time to hire a professional?
I fix 95% of problems but not sure how to address this.

Call “Hole in the wall” drywall 407 283 1069

jrref 04-25-2022 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Plinker (Post 2087849)
Is this a do-it-yourself job or time to hire a professional?
I fix 95% of problems but not sure how to address this.

This is a very common problem. If you look hard enough you will see hairline cracks in every Lanai ceiling unless they have been insulated and even then you may see some cracks. Another solution that may last a while is to use an elastomer type caulking. Get water based and carefully fill in the crack and re-paint if necessary. You can get this at any big box store or Sherwin Williams.

If you do enough research the common thinking is the cracks are caused because the lanai ceiling is not insulated so you can get super heated air on one side of the sheetrock causing more movemet than normal. Also i agree doesn't look like the proper tape was used when finishing the drywall.

Mrfriendly 04-25-2022 07:38 AM

Repair crack in Lanai ceiling
 
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Originally Posted by Plinker (Post 2087849)
Is this a do-it-yourself job or time to hire a professional?
I fix 95% of problems but not sure how to address this.

We are considering covering the ceiling with vinyl soffit but not sure who to contact.

Scorpyo 04-25-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oldyeller (Post 2088352)
I had the same issue. I bought 1/4-in x 3/4-in unfinished wood strips, painted them and screwed them to the ceiling covering the cracks. Looks fine.

Another TOTV tread I will save just in case. Thanks good idea.

MandoMan 04-25-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2088054)
It's an easy fix with mesh, but consider the location and you on a ladder in "that position". :ohdear:

It seems to have a stucco or thin-set plaster finish, so that is definitely NOT “an easy fix with mesh.” The good news is that the OP can just leave it. It’s not hurting anything. If it actually is stucco, then it’s probably a planned expansion joint, given that it’s straight. It’s not a structural problem you need to deal with unless conditioned air is escaping that way, like a window that isn’t properly sealed. If that’s the problem, a narrow bead of a compressible white caulk—kept only in the crack and not troweled at all, even if there is a slip—might seal it and make the crack less noticeable. If it’s drywall or backer board, it may be that one piece was properly screwed to wood backing and the other wasn’t.

retiredguy123 04-25-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2088466)
It seems to have a stucco or thin-set plaster finish, so that is definitely NOT “an easy fix with mesh.” The good news is that the OP can just leave it. It’s not hurting anything. If it actually is stucco, then it’s probably a planned expansion joint, given that it’s straight. It’s not a structural problem you need to deal with unless conditioned air is escaping that way, like a window that isn’t properly sealed. If that’s the problem, a narrow bead of a compressible white caulk—kept only in the crack and not troweled at all, even if there is a slip—might seal it and make the crack less noticeable. If it’s drywall or backer board, it may be that one piece was properly screwed to wood backing and the other wasn’t.

It's not stucco. It is just a textured painted finish similar to the ceilings inside the house. But, the ceiling finish is applied with a machine and is difficult to match by hand, unlike the textured wall finish.

kfierle 04-25-2022 09:29 AM

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We are considering covering the ceiling with vinyl soffit but not sure who to contact.

I had vinyl bead board installed on my lanai ceiling and used Brian Terry Vinyl 352-461-0503.

Mrfriendly 04-25-2022 09:51 AM

Lanai cracks
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2088505)
It's not stucco. It is just a textured painted finish similar to the ceilings inside the house. But, the ceiling finish is applied with a machine and is difficult to match by hand, unlike the textured wall finish.

Would you think there is a possibility of a home inspector crawling around in attic may have caused the cracks? Just a thought

Topspinmo 04-25-2022 10:39 AM

I would got to box store get some fix a crack in can, fill in crack, repaint ceiling if I couldn’t match the paint. Then I would have the material product to fix anymore cracks and paint that matches.

tibbetts 04-25-2022 11:05 AM

We had one, not as bad but I took silicone and filled it in, roughed up and you can't see it. I think the heat and cool does it more than anything. When the sun hits it I hear creek and when open windows to cool it, it creeks again. Did this 3 years ago and still can't find it if you look.

JohnN 04-25-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tibbetts (Post 2088560)
We had one, not as bad but I took silicone and filled it in, roughed up and you can't see it. I think the heat and cool does it more than anything. When the sun hits it I hear creek and when open windows to cool it, it creeks again. Did this 3 years ago and still can't find it if you look.

I'm like this poster. I patched the crack, painted over it and you can't see it at all.
Quick, easy, cheap fix and years later looks just fine. If it were to re-crack, I'd do something sturdier as mentioned on the prior post.

nancyre 04-25-2022 02:04 PM

Insulate the space above before doing the fix

juddfl 04-25-2022 07:36 PM

My painter noticed a long crack in my bedroom ceiling and mentioned it to me. I have been living here since 2001. I told the painter that I had that crack fixed twice and the 2nd guy said that it will probably come back. I would not have had it done if I knew it would come back. He told me this after he did the work. Sure enough, it came back within a year.
The painter suggested A Touch of Drywall, Inc. Lori is the owner, she came and gave me an estimate which was lower than what I had paid the last time. She covered the bed and furniture, took apart a section of the drywall, put it back together and it was perfect. That was at least 6 years ago. She told me that you can't just patch it or it will come back. The other 2 just patched the crack and that is why it came back. Her phone # is 352-636-6859. Lori is licensed and insured. She is a real pro with drywall.

photo1902 04-25-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by juddfl (Post 2088742)
My painter noticed a long crack in my bedroom ceiling and mentioned it to me. I have been living here since 2001. I told the painter that I had that crack fixed twice and the 2nd guy said that it will probably come back. I would not have had it done if I knew it would come back. He told me this after he did the work. Sure enough, it came back within a year.
The painter suggested A Touch of Drywall, Inc. Lori is the owner, she came and gave me an estimate which was lower than what I had paid the last time. She covered the bed and furniture, took apart a section of the drywall, put it back together and it was perfect. That was at least 6 years ago. She told me that you can't just patch it or it will come back. The other 2 just patched the crack and that is why it came back. Her phone # is 352-636-6859. Lori is licensed and insured. She is a real pro with drywall.

Lori is excellent

photo1902 04-25-2022 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrfriendly (Post 2088519)
Would you think there is a possibility of a home inspector crawling around in attic may have caused the cracks? Just a thought

Highly unlikely. It’s a very common issue here.

Malsua 04-25-2022 08:12 PM

Most of the cracks in Lanai ceilings are due to it not being insulated from the heat of the attic.

It doesn't help that they don't use the best drywall or the best joint compound, but the biggest culprit is heat.


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