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daniel200 04-27-2022 09:56 AM

Junk Mail
 
I don’t like junk mail. It never gets past the trash bin near my mail box. I found this link that allows you to opt out of those ValPak mailers. No name is required to opt out. Just your postal address.

Valpak Mailing List Removal Request

retiredguy123 04-27-2022 10:06 AM

LOL. So, you opt out of one piece of junk mail. What's the point? Ever since ValPak started putting $100 checks in some of their envelopes, I have been afraid to throw them away. And, sometimes they actually have useful coupons, like Sam's Club membership discounts.

Stu from NYC 04-27-2022 10:29 AM

Watch out for the trash police who do not want you to use the trash bins by postal station for junk mail.

They want you to take it home and toss it in your own garbage.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 04-27-2022 10:52 AM

Junk mail must work because companies keep sending it , but there is a benefit from junk mail for all of us, it keeps the prices the post office charges for other services down

Ecuadog 04-27-2022 10:55 AM

Thank you, daniel200.

Stu from NYC 04-27-2022 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2089334)
Junk mail must work because companies keep sending it , but there is a benefit from junk mail for all of us, it keeps the prices the post office charges for other services down

It also keeps people working in landfills employed

retiredguy123 04-27-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2089334)
Junk mail must work because companies keep sending it , but there is a benefit from junk mail for all of us, it keeps the prices the post office charges for other services down

Not logical. It doesn't benefit me because I rarely use any postal services. But, I do pay a lot of taxes that are used to pay for the Post Office, most of which goes to pay them to delivery the underpriced junk mail.

JohnN 04-27-2022 11:29 AM

Thanks Daniel. Unlike those who says it doesn't matter, etc etc. Well, it matters to me, it's one less piece of junkmail.
I don't know if that employs postal people or garbage dump people, but I don't need it and the world doesn't need it.

Keefelane66 04-27-2022 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2089345)
Not logical. It doesn't benefit me because I rarely use any postal services. But, I do pay a lot of taxes that are used to pay for the Post Office, most of which goes to pay them to delivery the underpriced junk mail.

The Postal Service generally receives no tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations.Mar 17, 2022

retiredguy123 04-27-2022 11:41 AM

Has anyone ever heard the environmentalist view about junk mail? Tons of paper manufactured to produce junk mail. Then it is transported in planes, trains, and trucks around the country. Then, more than 95 percent of it is discarded into the trash without even being read. Then, it is picked up and hauled away in more trucks to be burned or deposited into a landfill. Without the U. S. Post Office, none of this would happen. I have never received any junk mail from UPS or FedEx.

Papa_lecki 04-27-2022 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2089354)
Has anyone ever heard the environmentalist view about junk mail? Tons of paper manufactured to produce junk mail. Then it is transported in planes, trains, and trucks around the country. Then, more than 95 percent of it is discarded into the trash without even being read. Then, it is picked up and hauled away in more trucks to be burned or deposited into a landfill. Without the U. S. Post Office, none of this would happen. I have never received any junk mail from UPS or FedEx.

Our trash is converted to electricity.
Most junk mail is printed locally, so not really trucked around the country. And TV mail system is a highly sustainable model, mail truck goes to one place and drops mail for a few hundred residents.

And how much to send a birthday card or a check via UPS or FedEx?

retiredguy123 04-27-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2089351)
The Postal Service generally receives no tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations.Mar 17, 2022

Not true. The Post Office owes billions of dollars to the Treasury. You mentioned operating expenses, but that is only part of the cost to the taxpayers for the Post Office. For example, it doesn't include the cost for pensions and health benefits that retired postal workers receive. A postal worker who retires at age 55, will receive a generous pension and health care benefits for 30 years or longer, while performing no work at all. The Post Office does not consider this cost as part of their "operating expenses", but it is an enormous cost to the taxpayers. That is why they continue to need to borrow more money from the Treasury.

retiredguy123 04-27-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2089358)
Our trash is converted to electricity.
Most junk mail is printed locally, so not really trucked around the country. And TV mail system is a highly sustainable model, mail truck goes to one place and drops mail for a few hundred residents.

And how much to send a birthday card or a check via UPS or FedEx?

So, you think junk mail is a good deal?

GpaVader 04-27-2022 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2089327)
Watch out for the trash police who do not want you to use the trash bins by postal station for junk mail.

They want you to take it home and toss it in your own garbage.

What you are actually supposed to do is take the prepaid postage envelopes that come with your CC applications and fill those with the junk mail and send it back. They have to pay for the weight of the envelope so fill it up.....

Stu from NYC 04-27-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GpaVader (Post 2089365)
What you are actually supposed to do is take the prepaid postage envelopes that come with your CC applications and fill those with the junk mail and send it back. They have to pay for the weight of the envelope so fill it up.....

I have been tempted several times

Bogie Shooter 04-27-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2089336)
Thank you, daniel200.

For what?

Ecuadog 04-27-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2089310)
I don’t like junk mail. It never gets past the trash bin near my mail box. I found this link that allows you to opt out of those ValPak mailers. No name is required to opt out. Just your postal address.

Valpak Mailing List Removal Request

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2089336)
Thank you, daniel200.

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2089416)
For what?

I thanked him for posting a link that I found useful.

Keefelane66 04-27-2022 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2089359)
Not true. The Post Office owes billions of dollars to the Treasury. You mentioned operating expenses, but that is only part of the cost to the taxpayers for the Post Office. For example, it doesn't include the cost for pensions and health benefits that retired postal workers receive. A postal worker who retires at age 55, will receive a generous pension and health care benefits for 30 years or longer, while performing no work at all. The Post Office does not consider this cost as part of their "operating expenses", but it is an enormous cost to the taxpayers. That is why they continue to need to borrow more money from the Treasury.

During the Bush2 administration Congress controls what and how the Post Office operates. A law was made for the Post Office to fund medical and pension obligation 75 years in the future this requires the Post Office to deposit between 5-6 billion dollars annually.

Keefelane66 04-27-2022 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2089310)
I don’t like junk mail. It never gets past the trash bin near my mail box. I found this link that allows you to opt out of those ValPak mailers. No name is required to opt out. Just your postal address.

Valpak Mailing List Removal Request

All this for one piece of junk mail if you come up with stopping the other 100 or so mailing I’ll thank you.

retiredguy123 04-27-2022 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2089424)
During the Bush2 administration Congress controls what and how the Post Office operates. A law was made for the Post Office to fund medical and pension obligation 75 years in the future this requires the Post Office to deposit between 5-6 billion dollars annually.

That funding requirement is being repealed, and the Post Office is getting a relief package of $50 billion. But, they are still deeply in debt and getting deeper. See link.

Congress passes $50 bln U.S. Postal Service relief bill | Reuters

But, none of that has anything to do with the "operating expense" deception. The Post Office promotes an untruth that they are not a burden on the taxpayer. They want people to ignore the enormous cost of retiree pensions and health care, which they don't want to count in their operating expenses. But, that is why every GAO audit reports that the Post Office loses money.

daniel200 04-27-2022 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2089431)
All this for one piece of junk mail if you come up with stopping the other 100 or so mailing I’ll thank you.

Well actually, there is another site where you can “optout” of receiving prescreened credit card offers. And it has worked for me the last two years.

Under the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), the Consumer Credit Reporting Companies are permitted to include your name on lists used by creditors or insurers to make firm offers of credit or insurance that are not initiated by you ("Firm Offers"). The FCRA also provides you the right to "Opt-Out", which prevents Consumer Credit Reporting Companies from providing your credit file information for Firm Offers.

OptOutPrescreen.com

However, for this site you must also provide your name. OptOutPrescreen.com is a centralized service to accept and process requests from consumers to "Opt-In" or "Opt-Out" of firm offers of credit or insurance. OptOutPrescreen.com is a joint venture among Equifax Information Services, LLC, Experian Information Solutions, Inc., Innovis Data Solutions, Inc., and TransUnion, LLC (collectively the "Consumer Credit Reporting Companies").

billethkid 04-27-2022 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2089327)
Watch out for the trash police who do not want you to use the trash bins by postal station for junk mail.

They want you to take it home and toss it in your own garbage.

I so look forward to meeting them!!!!

Keefelane66 04-27-2022 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2089483)
Well actually, there is another site where you can “optout” of receiving prescreened credit card offers. And it has worked for me the last two years.

Under the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), the Consumer Credit Reporting Companies are permitted to include your name on lists used by creditors or insurers to make firm offers of credit or insurance that are not initiated by you ("Firm Offers"). The FCRA also provides you the right to "Opt-Out", which prevents Consumer Credit Reporting Companies from providing your credit file information for Firm Offers.

OptOutPrescreen.com

However, for this site you must also provide your name. OptOutPrescreen.com is a centralized service to accept and process requests from consumers to "Opt-In" or "Opt-Out" of firm offers of credit or insurance. OptOutPrescreen.com is a joint venture among Equifax Information Services, LLC, Experian Information Solutions, Inc., Innovis Data Solutions, Inc., and TransUnion, LLC (collectively the "Consumer Credit Reporting Companies").

Thank You now your getting serious.
Now if I could stop the weekly hearing mailings.
Thanks Again

Stu from NYC 04-27-2022 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2089485)
I so look forward to meeting them!!!!

Wish they would get a uniform:)

tophcfa 04-27-2022 11:04 PM

Junk mail is my favorite type of mail, everything else are bills.

Worldseries27 04-28-2022 04:48 AM

High noon
 
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Originally Posted by stu from nyc (Post 2089327)
watch out for the trash police who do not want you to use the trash bins by postal station for junk mail.

They want you to take it home and toss it in your own garbage.

what would be their response to the fact that we all pay for trash pickup in our " amenities" bill. I see dozens of trash receptacles around the various rec centers and fields. Is postal trash any different?

thevillages2013 04-28-2022 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2089338)
It also keeps people working in landfills employed

What about all the trees that had to die so junk mail could be made( he says hands wringing)

La lamy 04-28-2022 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2089310)
I don’t like junk mail. It never gets past the trash bin near my mail box. I found this link that allows you to opt out of those ValPak mailers. No name is required to opt out. Just your postal address.

Valpak Mailing List Removal Request

Thanks, I'll give it a try. :clap2:

bowlingal 04-28-2022 05:13 AM

I happen to like Valpak....good coupons to save me money. I look for it every month

Eg_cruz 04-28-2022 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2089358)
Our trash is converted to electricity.
Most junk mail is printed locally, so not really trucked around the country. And TV mail system is a highly sustainable model, mail truck goes to one place and drops mail for a few hundred residents.

And how much to send a birthday card or a check via UPS or FedEx?

Thank you

Eg_cruz 04-28-2022 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2089310)
I don’t like junk mail. It never gets past the trash bin near my mail box. I found this link that allows you to opt out of those ValPak mailers. No name is required to opt out. Just your postal address.

Valpak Mailing List Removal Request

Easy to see that must peeps here never worked or owned company that rely on advertising. I have and mailing out ads work. You must not be a coupon clipper.

Luggage 04-28-2022 06:02 AM

Taxes post office
 
Actually NO taxes are spent on the post office

The one gov dept that costs us nothing .




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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2089345)
Not logical. It doesn't benefit me because I rarely use any postal services. But, I do pay a lot of taxes that are used to pay for the Post Office, most of which goes to pay them to delivery the underpriced junk mail.


retiredguy123 04-28-2022 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2089608)
Actually NO taxes are spent on the post office

The one gov dept that costs us nothing .

Who will pay for the $50 billion relief bill referred to in Post No. 20?

midiwiz 04-28-2022 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2089316)
LOL. So, you opt out of one piece of junk mail. What's the point? Ever since ValPak started putting $100 checks in some of their envelopes, I have been afraid to throw them away. And, sometimes they actually have useful coupons, like Sam's Club membership discounts.

it's at least a beginning, an option, where others have zero options but to get the junk. As for the $100 checks feel free to take the bait, I've never found anything of any real value in a valpak ever. None of the merchants are anything we care to give money to.

Southwest737 04-28-2022 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2089338)
It also keeps people working in landfills employed

Our trash is waste to energy. It does not go to a landfill. So junk mail helps keep the lights on. Embrace it.

retiredguy123 04-28-2022 06:41 AM

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retiredguy123 04-28-2022 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2089608)
Actually NO taxes are spent on the post office

The one gov dept that costs us nothing .

For those who believe that the USPS doesn't cost the taxpayers any money, here is the latest summary of their financial status from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) in September 2021:

"USPS is the largest postal service in the world, delivering an estimated 49 percent of all mail sent globally and playing a critical role in the nation’s communications and commerce. Congress designed USPS to be a self-sustaining entity that, like a business, would cover its operating costs primarily with revenues from selling certain products and services. However, starting in fiscal year 2007, USPS’s expenses began exceeding its revenue. This has led to total net losses of $87 billion from fiscal years 2007 through 2020, and $188 billion in total unfunded liabilities and debt as of the end of fiscal year 2020."

Stu from NYC 04-28-2022 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Southwest737 (Post 2089629)
Our trash is waste to energy. It does not go to a landfill. So junk mail helps keep the lights on. Embrace it.

Embrace junk mail? Not a chance.''

What really bothers me we make a donation to a charity and several times a month same charity comes back for more.

As a result my charitable dollars are used to pay for more mailing to us asking for more money.

retiredguy123 04-28-2022 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Southwest737 (Post 2089629)
Our trash is waste to energy. It does not go to a landfill. So junk mail helps keep the lights on. Embrace it.

Really? Maybe we could truck in additional trash from Canada and Mexico so we can produce even more electricity.

JMintzer 04-28-2022 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2089608)
Actually NO taxes are spent on the post office

The one gov dept that costs us nothing .

You might want to do a bit of research on that...

Congress Just Voted to Overhaul the Post Office. Here's What That Means for Your Mail - CNET


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