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Madelaine Amee 05-15-2022 07:51 PM

Slashed full trash bags
 
We are having a problem in our village. I live north of 466 and every trash pick up day bags are being slashed open and, I assume, items are taken out. Today, our personal trash bag slasher came around early during the storm, he thankfully ignored my household trash and slashed open a black heavy duty bag and spilled the contents on my driveway. So I assume I will have to wake early and get my trash out first thing in the morning.

This is a new happening, maybe less than a month, is this happening in other neighborhoods?

Papa_lecki 05-15-2022 08:27 PM

Did you see the thrasher?

Is it possible it’s an animal with sharp claws? That occasionally happens in our neighborhood.

MartinSE 05-15-2022 08:36 PM

Sadly, once you put it out, it is legally fair game.

JerryLBell 05-15-2022 08:38 PM

Are you sure this is not being done by an animal, such as a raccoon? Every time we've had our garbage bags ripped open, it's been by critters.

davem4616 05-15-2022 09:36 PM

so sad that you are dealing with this...if it helps,

I never bring my trash out until 7:20 in the morning....as I fear that the animals that prowl during the night might find what I have inside the bags attractive

Garywt 05-15-2022 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2095786)
so sad that you are dealing with this...if it helps,

I never bring my trash out until 7:20 in the morning....as I fear that the animals that prowl during the night might find what I have inside the bags attractive

Very strange, nothing I have heard about. You seem to be an early riser, I am never awake when the trash gets picked up and I am not setting an alarm to get up to put the trash out. Luckily I have not seen it around our neighborhood.

Two Bills 05-16-2022 03:35 AM

Had that happen some years back when renting in Caroline.
It was Raccoons opening bags.
Just stopped leaving bags out overnight.

Madelaine Amee 05-16-2022 05:40 AM

This is a person, not a sharp clawed animal. The bag in question was slashed with a sharp knife and the contents tipped onto the ground. We used to call these people Pickers, but this is the first time I have encountered this in TV.

Yes, I am up with the birds and my trash is usually picked up by 6:30am so I will have to start putting it out in the morning.

ThirdOfFive 05-16-2022 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 2095818)
This is a person, not a sharp clawed animal. The bag in question was slashed with a sharp knife and the contents tipped onto the ground. We used to call these people Pickers, but this is the first time I have encountered this in TV.

Yes, I am up with the birds and my trash is usually picked up by 6:30am so I will have to start putting it out in the morning.

TV's equivalent of dumpster diving, maybe?

JerryP 05-16-2022 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2095783)
Sadly, once you put it out, it is legally fair game.

It may be fair game but not legal if they leave a mess.

Chi-Town 05-16-2022 07:22 AM

Time for a photo op.

villagetinker 05-16-2022 07:45 AM

I would call community watch and inform them of this activity, then I would get an HD camera I am thinking the type they use in the woods for animals. This would be located to catch the person(s) involved and hopefully a license plate. I suggest these types of cameras as they are battery operated, weather proof and suitable for light and dark conditions. I have seen these advertised at Rural King.

Topspinmo 05-16-2022 08:12 AM

Probably picking through trash bag for personal information. Why else would somebody cut open garbage bag? IMO cutting open bags of trash is illegal, different than putting lawnmower, chair, or old items that age good and not bagged.

Topspinmo 05-16-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2095783)
Sadly, once you put it out, it is legally fair game.

Fair game If take the whole bag and not dump it in the street. There ordinance for littering. Plus if not in the street it’s on private property.

Babubhat 05-16-2022 09:21 AM

Video cameras are inexpensive and useful. I catch the crows every trash day,

Try putting your trash in a brown leaf bag. No one should want your leaves

Michael G. 05-16-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2095882)
I suggest these types of cameras as they are battery operated, weather proof and suitable for light and dark conditions. I have seen these advertised at Rural King.

Someone would just get nude pictures of your neighbors crazy wife
going house to house with knife in hand.

Or you could wrap yourself in a black garbage bag holding a 357 and wait for the culprit.

TrapX 05-16-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2095783)
Sadly, once you put it out, it is legally fair game.

Not exactly.
Random people cannot enter your property to remove anything you may have set out. Someone trespassing to cut your property open is committing a crime of vandalism. Spreading the contents is littering. Allowing things to get into a storm drain could pick up other environmental charges. Taking anything is theft.
Ironically, even police cannot remove your trash from your property, without first getting a warrant.
Putting trash off of your property, in the street, can be considered littering. It's fair game to anyone if put there.

However, trash bags, and related items, that to an untrained eye are are obviously trash intended for collection, are considered surrendered property, but only to the trash removal people. They are allowed to enter your property to remove those items. Once that trash is removed by them, you no longer have an expectation of privacy to their contents, and then scavengers and police (potentially without a warrant) are now free to take whatever they want.

Stu from NYC 05-16-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2095882)
I would call community watch and inform them of this activity, then I would get an HD camera I am thinking the type they use in the woods for animals. This would be located to catch the person(s) involved and hopefully a license plate. I suggest these types of cameras as they are battery operated, weather proof and suitable for light and dark conditions. I have seen these advertised at Rural King.

Great advise

dewilson58 05-16-2022 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TrapX (Post 2095957)
Not exactly.

Ironically, even police cannot remove your trash from your property, without first getting a warrant.

You might be out of date..................
In a case from 1988 entitled California v. Greenwood, the Supreme Court of the United States held that an individual does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in their trash. Therefore, the Fourth Amendment does not prohibit law enforcement from a warrantless search and seizure of their garbage.

Babubhat 05-16-2022 10:52 AM

You can post Ring camera videos online

TrapX 05-16-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2095964)
You might be out of date..................
In a case from 1988 entitled California v. Greenwood, the Supreme Court of the United States held that an individual does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in their trash. Therefore, the Fourth Amendment does not prohibit law enforcement from a warrantless search and seizure of their garbage.

The slippery slope is that if one has to trespass on private property to reach the trash, then committing that crime invalidates anything collected after.

Spectreron 05-16-2022 11:49 AM

Dog Waste
 
I put my dog’s waste bags in the trash bag. No animals have messed with it, quite ripe!

Nucky 05-16-2022 11:58 AM

It would be great if you could hire the garbage watcher from the Church Garbage Thread a few days ago. They could stalk your garbage for you. What a shame, problems like this shouldn't be happening.

We shred our paperwork into pieces that would have to be sent to Quantico to reassemble. You never know the person's reason for the search. Time to call Raymond Reddington. :1rotfl:

Stu from NYC 05-16-2022 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2095990)
It would be great if you could hire the garbage watcher from the Church Garbage Thread a few days ago. They could stalk your garbage for you. What a shame, problems like this shouldn't be happening.

We shred our paperwork into pieces that would have to be sent to Quantico to reassemble. You never know the person's reason for the search. Time to call Raymond Reddington. :1rotfl:

Kind of out of his core competency. I would see if Dudley DoRight is available.

coffeebean 05-16-2022 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryP (Post 2095830)
It may be fair game but not legal if they leave a mess.

Especially if that mess stains the driveway.

dewilson58 05-16-2022 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TrapX (Post 2095983)
The slippery slope is that if one has to trespass on private property to reach the trash, then committing that crime invalidates anything collected after.

You may want to check county records..............you don't own the property touching the street.

Nucky 05-16-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2095992)
Kind of out of his core competency. I would see if Dudley DoRight is available.

Do you think maybe he knows a guy who knows a guy? I'll stick with Raymond :clap2:

Using Reddington gets you Elizabeth Keen's family! Don't Googlize and cheat! Do you know who they are?

I'm still sticking with Ray Monde.

tophcfa 05-16-2022 07:28 PM

See what happens when someone feeds the gremlins after midnight.

Topspinmo 05-16-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2096069)
You may want to check county records..............you don't own the property touching the street.

Easement rights to utilities that’s it. In my case it’s 5 foot from street, two foot cement and 3 foot into my yard. I own it, have to mow and weed it, but utilities has right to under ground access.

Stu from NYC 05-16-2022 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2096071)
Do you think maybe he knows a guy who knows a guy? I'll stick with Raymond :clap2:

But Dudley gets you Natasha for no extra charge

Worldseries27 05-17-2022 04:37 AM

Up scope
 
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Originally Posted by madelaine amee (Post 2095780)
we are having a problem in our village. I live north of 466 and every trash pick up day bags are being slashed open and, i assume, items are taken out. Today, our personal trash bag slasher came around early during the storm, he thankfully ignored my household trash and slashed open a black heavy duty bag and spilled the contents on my driveway. So i assume i will have to wake early and get my trash out first thing in the morning.

This is a new happening, maybe less than a month, is this happening in other neighborhoods?

i would park in my driveway and wait. He obviously has a vehicle with plates. I would take as many pictures as possible and also call a neighbor at the same time. You'll have the evidence you need for the police to follow up on
be careful

DrBrutyle109 05-17-2022 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 2095780)
We are having a problem in our village. I live north of 466 and every trash pick up day bags are being slashed open and, I assume, items are taken out. Today, our personal trash bag slasher came around early during the storm, he thankfully ignored my household trash and slashed open a black heavy duty bag and spilled the contents on my driveway. So I assume I will have to wake early and get my trash out first thing in the morning.

This is a new happening, maybe less than a month, is this happening in other neighborhoods?

Get a garbage can.
Wow…..that was tough to figure out

thevillages2013 05-17-2022 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 2096133)
Get a garbage can.
Wow…..that was tough to figure out

Um except that the garbage can would leave with the garbage. Ever been in TV and seen a trash can at the curb?

Stu from NYC 05-17-2022 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 2096133)
Get a garbage can.
Wow…..that was tough to figure out

If you lived here you would know that is not an answer.

dewilson58 05-17-2022 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2096083)
Easement rights to utilities that’s it. In my case it’s 5 foot from street, two foot cement and 3 foot into my yard. I own it, have to mow and weed it, but utilities has right to under ground access.

Nope.
I'm not talking about an easement.
Property lines are XX feet from the center of the rode.
Not sure about villas, most sprinklers next to the road are not on the homeowner property.
(jus looked at county records, saw the same with villas.........don't know your address)

skizicsdcx 05-17-2022 06:44 AM

Beside the slasher be aware of small wild hungry animals with sharp claws

rockyhyder 05-17-2022 07:03 AM

Game camera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 2095818)
This is a person, not a sharp clawed animal. The bag in question was slashed with a sharp knife and the contents tipped onto the ground. We used to call these people Pickers, but this is the first time I have encountered this in TV.

Yes, I am up with the birds and my trash is usually picked up by 6:30am so I will have to start putting it out in the morning.

IF you want to identify the person(s) purchase a game camera from Sportsman’s Warehouse on 441. Easily concealed in a tree or shrub and you can take video or still photo.

lestrom 05-17-2022 07:05 AM

Crows

DrHitch 05-17-2022 07:10 AM

Here's a "workaround"..

Make a colored sticker that says "this trash bag is under video surveillance"

I bet the problem will resolve itself!!

Keefelane66 05-17-2022 07:19 AM

I don't believe any of this.


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