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champion6 05-19-2022 11:03 AM

Evening With The Developer
 
Things I learned that had not already been in the Daily Sun:

-- Mark teased us with new retail/commercial that will be coming to Buffalo Ridge and to Rt 44 / Morse Blvd. Regarding Buffalo Ridge, I assume this is in addition to Hobby Lobby which was already announced.

-- They just signed a lease for the restaurant to be built next to the Lake Okahumpka Rec Center - Harry and the Natives. They already have a location in Hobe Sound, FL.

-- There is a waiting list for The Lofts apartments. They believe there is a demand for apartments near the squares. Hence, they are pushing forward with Spanish Springs apartments.

-- The Olympia Regional Rec Center next to the future town center, Eastport, will have a 30,000 sq. ft. indoor gym.

-- The Eastport town center will not be a "square." They showed a flyover of an artist's rendition - curved streets which will be closed to vehicles in the evenings; restaurants on these streets with outdoor seating that will face the entertainment stage; pedestrian-only alleys with more shopping that angle off from the main streets.

Michael G. 05-19-2022 11:08 AM

I hear he said off camera, he wants to eliminate the gate going to BJ's and Lowes.

Bilyclub 05-19-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 2096954)
Things I learned that had not already been in the Daily Sun:

-- Mark teased us with new retail/commercial that will be coming to Buffalo Ridge and to Rt 44 / Morse Blvd. Regarding Buffalo Ridge, I assume this is in addition to Hobby Lobby which was already announced.

-- They just signed a lease for the restaurant to be built next to the Lake Okahumpka Rec Center - Harry and the Natives. They already have a location in Hobe Sound, FL.

-- There is a waiting list for The Lofts apartments. They believe there is a demand for apartments near the squares. Hence, they are pushing forward with Spanish Springs apartments.

-- The Olympia Regional Rec Center next to the future town center, Eastport, will have a 30,000 sq. ft. indoor gym.

-- The Eastport town center will not be a "square." They showed a flyover of an artist's rendition - curved streets which will be closed to vehicles in the evenings; restaurants on these streets with outdoor seating that will face the entertainment stage; pedestrian-only alleys with more shopping that angle off from the main streets.

Thanks for the post.

Found this interesting: Sawgrass Grove is not a town square, McCabe said, so entertainment at the area will vary — some days may have no music, while others will have doubleheaders in both the day and evening.


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dewilson58 05-19-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2096959)
I hear he said off camera, he wants to eliminate the gate going to BJ's and Lowes.

:loco::loco:

Topspinmo 05-19-2022 12:50 PM

I feel that tingling down my leg……

Skip 05-19-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 2096954)
Things I learned ...
-- They just signed a lease for the restaurant to be built next to the Lake Okahumpka Rec Center - Harry and the Natives. They already have a location in Hobe Sound, FL.

The details about Harry And The Natives is already on The Villages Gourmet Club Website.

It's going to be another casual bar and grill, like The Back Porch in Mulberry Grove.

Skip

rustyp 05-19-2022 04:58 PM

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i hear he said off camera, he wants to eliminate the gate going to bj's and lowes.

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Mleeja 05-19-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2096959)
I hear he said off camera, he wants to eliminate the gate going to BJ's and Lowes.

Why start a stupid rumor like this? All it will do is get the loonies worked up. Remember, got to keep the loonies on the path!

dewilson58 05-19-2022 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 2097112)
Why start a stupid rumor like this? All it will do is get the loonies worked up. Remember, got to keep the loonies on the path!

:bigbow:

UpNorth 05-19-2022 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097118)
:bigbow:

Did he mention when the new Costco will be built?:icon_wink:

dewilson58 05-19-2022 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2097119)
Did he mention when the new Costco will be built?:icon_wink:

He did, it's going into Barnstorm Theater.

Worldseries27 05-20-2022 04:40 AM

Hey abbott!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 2097112)
Why start a stupid rumor like this? All it will do is get the loonies worked up. Remember, got to keep the loonies on the path!

https://youtu.be/JuMpcSTlB70

thevillages2013 05-20-2022 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2096959)
I hear he said off camera, he wants to eliminate the gate going to BJ's and Lowes.

And then he muttered under his breath “ I‘ll show em who’s boss . They complain about the gate wait til I replace it with a toll booth”

NatureBoy 05-20-2022 05:49 AM

No nightly music at Sawgrass Grove
 
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Sawgrass Grove is not a town square, McCabe said, so entertainment at the area will vary — some days may have no music, while others will have doubleheaders in both the day and evening.
I wonder how many southern folks thought this would be treated like a square and have nightly music?
I wonder if they can control access enough to hold ticketed events?

dewilson58 05-20-2022 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NatureBoy (Post 2097186)
I wonder how many southern folks thought this would be treated like a square and have nightly music?

If any, they were not listening.
From day-one, it has been described as not being a town square.

La lamy 05-20-2022 06:00 AM

I guess they'll finally get moving with the SS movie theatre reassignment. I'm all for apartments. Older people can enjoy less maintenance and be close to all they need. There will be a loss of parking spots at SS which is the worse part for those with mobility issues.

La lamy 05-20-2022 06:02 AM

I don't understand the idea of closing the gate to Walmart/Lowes/Wawa. It's not an issue for me since I prefer driving, but there are a lot of people who use this route with their golf carts.

eeroger 05-20-2022 06:20 AM

As for apartments in Spanish Springs, just wait for complaints about the loud music. A way to get rid of entertainment at this square.

writerslife 05-20-2022 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097120)
He did, it's going into Barnstorm Theater.

The Barnstorm Theater will likely be transitioned into apartments. Cheaper to stream new movies at home.

jimbomaybe 05-20-2022 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2097190)
I guess they'll finally get moving with the SS movie theatre reassignment. I'm all for apartments. Older people can enjoy less maintenance and be close to all they need. There will be a loss of parking spots at SS which is the worse part for those with mobility issues.

I wonder why they didn't build condos ? certainly a business reason but I would find their reasoning insightful

Bogie Shooter 05-20-2022 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NatureBoy (Post 2097186)
I wonder how many southern folks thought this would be treated like a square and have nightly music?
I wonder if they can control access enough to hold ticketed events?

Are you a southern folk? No, then why the interest.? Or just stirring things up?

airstreamingypsy 05-20-2022 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2097206)
I wonder why they didn't build condos ? certainly a business reason but I would find their reasoning insightful

I've been saying that for years. Condos make more sense than apartments.

Bay Kid 05-20-2022 07:19 AM

They should close the squares to parking cars from 5-9. It would be hard to manage but parking for lots more people.

Tvflguy 05-20-2022 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2096997)
I feel that tingling down my leg……

Bladder condition?

drcar 05-20-2022 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2097220)
I've been saying that for years. Condos make more sense than apartments.

And I have been saying for years, "they" know what they are doing!

They are following the plans that have worked, and are continuing with the plan.

ThirdOfFive 05-20-2022 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 2097226)
And I have been saying for years, "they" know what they are doing!

They are following the plans that have worked, and are continuing with the plan.

My sentiments precisely.

There's nothing like a herd of opinionated geezers for pointing out every real and imagined flaw in everything this "developer" does or proposes. (Is the "developer" real, by the way? Or a shadowy entity along the lines of the Wizard in Emerald City?) But the track record is excellent. No regrets at all about moving here.

photo1902 05-20-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2097220)
I've been saying that for years. Condos make more sense than apartments.

Makes more sense to whom?

TheDuke 05-20-2022 07:46 AM

Was there any mention about opening the Barnstorm theater? I'd love for that to happen.

Stu from NYC 05-20-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2097212)
Are you a southern folk? No, then why the interest.? Or just stirring things up?

When people live in the villages they are naturally curious as to direction this place is going. Not to mention people do seem to move from house to house sometimes northerners even become southerners.

Why does this bother you?

Topspinmo 05-20-2022 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2097206)
I wonder why they didn't build condos ? certainly a business reason but I would find their reasoning insightful

What do you think the duplexes are around square?

Topspinmo 05-20-2022 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2097225)
Bladder condition?

No, whistle condition.

Mleeja 05-20-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 2097241)
Was there any mention about opening the Barnstorm theater? I'd love for that to happen.

There was an article in the DS earlier this week where someone within the villages mgt stated that the movie industry is still in a state of flux and not releasing enough movies. The only theater would be Old Mill Playhouse for the present future.

Brynnie 05-20-2022 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 2097003)
The details about Harry And The Natives is already on The Villages Gourmet Club Website.

It's going to be another casual bar and grill, like The Back Porch in Mulberry Grove.

Skip

Oh, geez. Not another sports bar. Why can’t we get some upscale restaurants here? So tired of same old, same old.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-20-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2097220)
I've been saying that for years. Condos make more sense than apartments.

I’ll use my own situation for why the developer doesn’t build condos, I’ve bought 6 homes in the villages 5 new and one preowned, if they had condos here I would have started out with them and by this time I would most likely have been on my 3rd ,the developer has a good plan , you can make more on houses and apartments , but I think they are still missing the boat because I have a sense that there would be quite a few people who would like to live in a nice condo complex

Stu from NYC 05-20-2022 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brynnie (Post 2097284)
Oh, geez. Not another sports bar. Why can’t we get some upscale restaurants here? So tired of same old, same old.

If this place would support more upscale restaurants think they would be here already.

Bogie Shooter 05-20-2022 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2097246)
When people live in the villages they are naturally curious as to direction this place is going. Not to mention people do seem to move from house to house sometimes northerners even become southerners.

Why does this bother you?

I just get tired of folks bashing or suggesting possible problems with the new areas . Most times it exposes their ignorance.
FYI, I’m above 466A.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-20-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2097178)
And then he muttered under his breath “ I‘ll show em who’s boss . They complain about the gate wait til I replace it with a toll booth”

Wrong source. That's Nucky's tollbooth. He rolls it in when he needs the extra bucks to cover the cost of his [REDACTED]

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-20-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 2096954)

-- There is a waiting list for The Lofts apartments. They believe there is a demand for apartments near the squares. Hence, they are pushing forward with Spanish Springs apartments.


-- The Eastport town center will not be a "square." They showed a flyover of an artist's rendition - curved streets which will be closed to vehicles in the evenings; restaurants on these streets with outdoor seating that will face the entertainment stage; pedestrian-only alleys with more shopping that angle off from the main streets.

Just commenting on these two things.

The Lofts apartments were built to the side of the central part of the square, and were not something else, and then repurposed to be apartments. In addition, the Lofts come with their own amenities and gated private parking. Using waiting lists at the Lofts as justification to repurpose second-floor apartments over an existing storefront is stupid and makes no sense. The two can't compare. The waiting list is more likely because the Lofts come with ALL of those things, not merely living space for rent with parking spaces that aren't sectioned off and unavailable to the public.

The new town center sounds like an amazing idea. Sort of like a miniature Riverwalk like they have in Texas. I would absolutely take the drive to visit it as part of my monthly "adventure the Villages" rotation.

Bilyclub 05-20-2022 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brynnie (Post 2097284)
Oh, geez. Not another sports bar. Why can’t we get some upscale restaurants here? So tired of same old, same old.


The closest thing to a sports bar is Gators at Brownwood. Sports bars have a gazillion TV's and good bar service, none of which are present in The Villages. Before you tell me McGrady's is a sports bar, it has one tv.

jimbomaybe 05-20-2022 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2097250)
What do you think the duplexes are around square?

Given that they do not have any plans to build more condos I was wondering why? and also given the ongoing success of this well managed business who wouldn't like to be a fly on the wall when the decisions are made


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