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mtomlinson 06-14-2022 01:35 PM

Overtaking Golf Carts
 
My wife was stopped by the police today for overtaking a golf car in her car.
They were on a side road with no golf cart lanes. The golf cart was doing less than 20 mph. The road was clear and she safely passed the golf cart.
The officer told her that it is illegal to overtake a golf cart on these roads. He also stated that the speed limit on these roads are 20mph for cars and 22 mph for golf carts.
I was under the impression that a golf cart capable of travelling more than 20mph would be classed as a LSV. According to Florida Statute § 320.01(42), an LSV is any four-wheel vehicle with a top speed that can travel faster than 20 miles per hour but less than 25.
We have been in TV for over 20 years and have not come across this non-overtaking "law".

Keefelane66 06-14-2022 02:40 PM

Guess the cop was finally doing his job. If you were ticketed you can appeal it in court.

birdiebill 06-14-2022 02:52 PM

Within the residential neighborhoods, roads/streets WITHOUT a marked golf cart lane have a speed limit of 20 mph for all modes of travel, unless marked otherwise such as in Villa neighborhoods. If the golf cart was not going 20 mph and she exceeded 20 mph to pass, she effectively was speeding. If she did not exceed 20 mph, she was not speeding.

dewilson58 06-14-2022 04:40 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. He was wrong about the cart speed limity.

photo1902 06-14-2022 05:25 PM

Seriously doubt the officer/deputy said the cart speed limit is 22mph.

Or, the officer/deputy meant that 22mph is the limit for carts before enforcement. Who knows.

dewilson58 06-14-2022 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2106213)
Seriously doubt the officer/deputy said the cart speed limit is 22mph.

This third-hand information is great...................we can all speed now.

:a040:

Papa_lecki 06-14-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2106198)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. He was wrong about the cart speed limity.

OR, maybe the internet has been wrong about the cart speed limit????

kaydee 06-14-2022 10:30 PM

Cops would have a field day if they ticketed the vehicles passing carts on Oak Forest Dr. Plenty of cars passing cars as well & worse yet, it happens approaching a curve.

Calisport 06-15-2022 12:38 AM

It is also illegal to pass a golf cart if the guy has his leg sticking out the side.

MorTech 06-15-2022 03:03 AM

The Officer actually told you golf cart speed limit is 22 mph?
It is also illegal to pass a golf cart if the guy is swigging off a bottle of whiskey :)

Worldseries27 06-15-2022 04:34 AM

????!
 
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Originally Posted by mtomlinson (Post 2106148)
my wife was stopped by the police today for overtaking a golf car in her car.
They were on a side road with no golf cart lanes. The golf cart was doing less than 20 mph. The road was clear and she safely passed the golf cart.
The officer told her that it is illegal to overtake a golf cart on these roads. He also stated that the speed limit on these roads are 20mph for cars and 22 mph for golf carts.
I was under the impression that a golf cart capable of travelling more than 20mph would be classed as a lsv. According to florida statute § 320.01(42), an lsv is any four-wheel vehicle with a top speed that can travel faster than 20 miles per hour but less than 25.
We have been in tv for over 20 years and have not come across this non-overtaking "law".

please explain if " side" road had homes with driveways or not.

AZ SLIM 06-15-2022 04:39 AM

Was she issued a ticket or just a verbal warning?

tsmall22204 06-15-2022 04:39 AM

My question is, why is your wife in such a hurry to pass a cart on a back road in the first place? I have been behind carts on side roads and just wait until the cart goes into a MM lane then pass. It is not about the officer doing his job, it is about common sense.

Luggage 06-15-2022 04:39 AM

25 mph the limit was my thoughts but just take the ticket and pay the fine because golf is more important than money

rrtjp 06-15-2022 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 2106268)
My question is, why is your wife in such a hurry to pass a cart on a back road in the first place? I have been behind carts on side roads and just wait until the cart goes into a MM lane then pass. It is not about the officer doing his job, it is about common sense.

Common sense is not very common anymore, lol.

nancymiller217@yahoo.com 06-15-2022 05:24 AM

Maybe he meant that the golf cart limit is 20, too.

Timhortonsw 06-15-2022 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtomlinson (Post 2106148)
My wife was stopped by the police today for overtaking a golf car in her car.
They were on a side road with no golf cart lanes. The golf cart was doing less than 20 mph. The road was clear and she safely passed the golf cart.
The officer told her that it is illegal to overtake a golf cart on these roads. He also stated that the speed limit on these roads are 20mph for cars and 22 mph for golf carts.
I was under the impression that a golf cart capable of travelling more than 20mph would be classed as a LSV. According to Florida Statute § 320.01(42), an LSV is any four-wheel vehicle with a top speed that can travel faster than 20 miles per hour but less than 25.
We have been in TV for over 20 years and have not come across this non-overtaking "law".

Is it possible the officer said and golf cart speed limit is 20 too

mtomlinson 06-15-2022 05:52 AM

Yes, homes with driveways in TV.

mtomlinson 06-15-2022 05:54 AM

Yes, homes with driveways in TV. Verbal warning

La lamy 06-15-2022 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Timhortonsw (Post 2106298)
Is it possible the officer said and golf cart speed limit is 20 too

You are smart!

mkjelenbaas 06-15-2022 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtomlinson (Post 2106148)
My wife was stopped by the police today for overtaking a golf car in her car.
They were on a side road with no golf cart lanes. The golf cart was doing less than 20 mph. The road was clear and she safely passed the golf cart.
The officer told her that it is illegal to overtake a golf cart on these roads. He also stated that the speed limit on these roads are 20mph for cars and 22 mph for golf carts.
I was under the impression that a golf cart capable of travelling more than 20mph would be classed as a LSV. According to Florida Statute § 320.01(42), an LSV is any four-wheel vehicle with a top speed that can travel faster than 20 miles per hour but less than 25.
We have been in TV for over 20 years and have not come across this non-overtaking "law".

And your point is??

racedaygal 06-15-2022 06:34 AM

I imagine that is the case. 20, also. Too, as in also.

Jacob85 06-15-2022 07:02 AM

I actually thought the roads were made for cars! They should have the right of way on a road no matter what the speeds.

mrf0151 06-15-2022 07:02 AM

Parr Drive on the north side of Tall Trees is a street where we see cars pass carts many times a day. Some of Parr Drive is solid yellow lined but cars still go over the line and pass. Have seen some close calls with oncoming traffic or cars/carts coming out onto Parr from all the banks there. Keep your head on a swivel.

Villagesgal 06-15-2022 07:03 AM

Don't pass a golf cart on the road
 
The point of this post was to educate people that it is illegal to pass a golf cart on a road without a dedicated golf cart lane. People do this every day. It is not safe and it is illegal. Period. It is illegal no matter what the speed. Stop doing it.

Bill14564 06-15-2022 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Villagesgal (Post 2106362)
The point of this post was to educate people that it is illegal to pass a golf cart on a road without a dedicated golf cart lane. People do this every day. It is not safe and it is illegal. Period. It is illegal no matter what the speed. Stop doing it.

I doubt (don't know, haven't found it yet) that it is illegal to pass a golf cart on a road without a dedicated golf cart lane. That just doesn't make any sense. Would it also be illegal to pass a bicycle on a road without a dedicated bicycle lane? Would it be illegal to go around a stopped delivery truck?

If there is a law that a car cannot pass a cart then please post the link to it.

It is more likely that the officer was trying to explain that the speed limit was 20mph for both cars and carts and he assumed the car exceeded that in order to pass the cart. If the cart was traveling at 20mph then he was correct but if the cart was going less than that then he was wrong to assume the car was speeding.

MorTech 06-15-2022 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by racedaygal (Post 2106326)
I imagine that is the case. 20, also. Too, as in also.

Ahh english. The british "as well" works here as well.

Rodneysblue 06-15-2022 08:12 AM

They should watch West Boone, it has a double yellow line and people still pass golf carts. Even when the carts are going down hill.

asianthree 06-15-2022 08:54 AM

Cars as well as lawn care, UPS, FedEx, and Mail trucks, cross double yellow on streets that carts are merging all the time.

Many times they are 2-3 car lengths and speed up to over take the cart, so they are not slowed down. Is it right, no, have seen many times where car ends up in path to oncoming car.

OP had a once in 20 year, stop by patrol car, passing a cart without cart path. Leos are few and far between, so speed, and passing on double yellow is a norm here.

Linnberg 06-15-2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mtomlinson (Post 2106309)
Yes, homes with driveways in TV. Verbal warning

Your original posting said ticket. Verbal warning is totally
Different and generally
Done to educate on laws.
Your posting becomes nonsense as you did not
Get a ticket.
Guess we should all
Find out about actual law as i am one who always pass slow carts on Oak Forest after making sure it is totally safe to do so.

asianthree 06-15-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Linnberg (Post 2106428)
Your original posting said ticket. Verbal warning is totally
Different and generally
Done to educate on laws.
Your posting becomes nonsense as you did not
Get a ticket.
Guess we should all
Find out about actual law as i am one who always pass slow carts on Oak Forest after making sure it is totally safe to do so.

OPs post says stopped, no mention of ticket. OPs original post has not been edited, as of 10:03am on 6/15.
So maybe read entire post, before berating a poster. If I am wrong about OP please feel free to admonish my post

Topspinmo 06-15-2022 09:10 AM

I see signs in my district says 25 mph unless otherwise posted. So If street not posted its 25 MPH. Everybody speeds up when passing (like going hit brakes when hit speed limit). Imo if there was solid yellow line indicating no passing zone or sign saying no passing, then no passing. IMO if it’s safe to pass, pass. Too bad officer can’t catch the speeders going 50 plus down MB, BV, el Camino Reno, and hundred more streets in villages. But he would have to be looking for speeders and NOT speeding down them also.

Kjbatl 06-15-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacob85 (Post 2106358)
I actually thought the roads were made for cars! They should have the right of way on a road no matter what the speeds.

Roads are not made for cars, they are made for vehicles. Bike, Motorcycles, Golf Carts are all vehicles and just because you are in a car does not give you right of way.

villager2017 06-15-2022 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtomlinson (Post 2106148)
My wife was stopped by the police today for overtaking a golf car in her car.
They were on a side road with no golf cart lanes. The golf cart was doing less than 20 mph. The road was clear and she safely passed the golf cart.
The officer told her that it is illegal to overtake a golf cart on these roads. He also stated that the speed limit on these roads are 20mph for cars and 22 mph for golf carts.
I was under the impression that a golf cart capable of travelling more than 20mph would be classed as a LSV. According to Florida Statute § 320.01(42), an LSV is any four-wheel vehicle with a top speed that can travel faster than 20 miles per hour but less than 25.
We have been in TV for over 20 years and have not come across this non-overtaking "law".

Tell your wife to slow down before she kills somebody. She's old where did she have to be in such a hurry

JMintzer 06-15-2022 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by villager2017 (Post 2106456)
Tell your wife to slow down before she kills somebody. She's old where did she have to be in such a hurry

1. I dare you to tell my wife to do anything...

2. Nunya. As in Nunya bidness... Maybe there was a bathroom emergency...

You know... Because "she's old"... :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Bill14564 06-15-2022 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kjbatl (Post 2106447)
Roads are not made for cars, they are made for vehicles. Bike, Motorcycles, Golf Carts are all vehicles and just because you are in a car does not give you right of way.

Hmm, I'm finding it hard to imagine that back in the 1920s someone said, "how will we get our golf cart from NY to CA without an interstate highway system?"

Roads are made for cars and trucks. Motorcycles, usually bicycles and pedestrians, and occasionally golf carts have the right to use the roads but rarely would a road be built because of a golf cart.

Carlsondm 06-15-2022 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtomlinson (Post 2106148)
My wife was stopped by the police today for overtaking a golf car in her car.
They were on a side road with no golf cart lanes. The golf cart was doing less than 20 mph. The road was clear and she safely passed the golf cart.
The officer told her that it is illegal to overtake a golf cart on these roads. He also stated that the speed limit on these roads are 20mph for cars and 22 mph for golf carts.
I was under the impression that a golf cart capable of travelling more than 20mph would be classed as a LSV. According to Florida Statute § 320.01(42), an LSV is any four-wheel vehicle with a top speed that can travel faster than 20 miles per hour but less than 25.
We have been in TV for over 20 years and have not come across this non-overtaking "law".

Perhaps the Officer meant 20 too for the golf cart.

Chi-Town 06-15-2022 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2106360)
Parr Drive on the north side of Tall Trees is a street where we see cars pass carts many times a day. Some of Parr Drive is solid yellow lined but cars still go over the line and pass. Have seen some close calls with oncoming traffic or cars/carts coming out onto Parr from all the banks there. Keep your head on a swivel.

Parr Dr. is posted 25 mph, so you can pass where allowed. I usually don't, because carts rarely travel the whole distance.

lucyemmi@icloud.com 06-15-2022 11:41 AM

Golf Cart Speed Limit
 
Maybe the police officer stated, “20 too” for golf carts and your wife thought he meant it as “22”.

DaleDivine 06-15-2022 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2106464)
1. I dare you to tell my wife to do anything...

2. Nunya. As in Nunya bidness... Maybe there was a bathroom emergency...

You know... Because "she's old"... :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


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