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Bilyclub 06-22-2022 12:49 PM

Yamaha Front Wiring Harness
 
The headlights on my 2020 cart have been flickering at start up speed. The guy from Carts and Clubs says its the front wiring harness and will cost a good chunk of change to fix. He further said it's an accessory and not covered under warranty. Anybody else have this problem? It's more of a nuisance at this time.

Keefelane66 06-22-2022 12:54 PM

Check the bayonet plug connection make sure they are tight.

dewilson58 06-22-2022 12:59 PM

Agree with Kee.

Doubt the harness is the issue, more likely than not a connection.

Bilyclub 06-22-2022 01:09 PM

Thanks, this thing has low miles and hours. The kid that changed the oil said the harness has been a problem and that they install an upgraded one.

villagetinker 06-22-2022 02:17 PM

I would also check the ground connection, especially if both lights are going out at the same time. The other common components to check, the headlight switch and the connections for this switch. The main fuse and the key switch also are common to the engine, so you would see the engine stutter or shutdown. I have seen problem with wiring harnesses and the older style Halogen lights, but not the newer LED lights.
If you are a DIYer, you can turn on the headlights and jiggle the wires while observing the headlights, you can also remove the dash panel and do the same with the wiring in there. If you find the loose wiring, then you should be able to apply a fix.

Topspinmo 06-22-2022 03:16 PM

Can you find wiring diagram? You’re headlights, meaning both of them? First would check ground and connectors for corrosion. Look for wires chafing. If they are good them you have to get multimeter and trace each wire from point a to point b. You can also back probe to check voltage. When doing this need to wiggle harness see if voltage fluctuation? Which might mean break stains in particular wire. That’s why it may be costly, time consuming to actually find fault?

Like others has said it both are blinking I would suspect grounding/corrosion problem?

Boffin 06-22-2022 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2109035)
The headlights on my 2020 cart have been flickering at start up speed. The guy from Carts and Clubs says its the front wiring harness and will cost a good chunk of change to fix. He further said it's an accessory and not covered under warranty. Anybody else have this problem? It's more of a nuisance at this time.

Check the wire harness assembly part number. If yours is J0K-H2590-00-00, it has been replace by part number J0K-H2590-02-00. The new part should cost around $250.00

villagetinker 06-22-2022 05:19 PM

The typical Yamaha wiring diagram does not cover headlights, turn signals etc, as these are not on a typical golf cart. As noted above the wiring harness foe these items is usually an after market product, and therefore could be different between manufacturers. I have helped several neighbors with golf cart electrical problem and have not found any 2 wired the same, even models of the same year.
I hope the OP keeps us up to date if they get a chance to follow the previous suggestions.

Boffin 06-22-2022 05:36 PM

1. The part I recommended is OEM.
2. The Yamaha Shop Manual has the wiring diagram. (Yes, I have a shop manual for my golf cart. Bought it when I bought the cart.)

KennyP 06-22-2022 06:29 PM

If its a Carts and Club cart- they use an aftermarket harness, and that is where the issue is. Carts and Clubs has always been proud about how they use their own wiring harness. They havent held up well are there are issues.

RetVets 06-23-2022 06:05 AM

My 2020 does the same thing. I was told it is in the amount of voltage that is delivered to the headlights at startup. It is not a short as it never happens at any other time, only when getting going from a dead stop.

Bilyclub 06-23-2022 07:34 AM

The technician said that since the voltage was 12 volts are above on startup that would indicate the wiring harness issue. Yesterday when I took it out the voltage went below 12 volts at startup and both headlights flickered. Played around a little in the afternoon with the wires but did not get any flickering. Interesting to see a Curt control box under the lid.

villagetinker 06-23-2022 08:06 AM

OP, check you battery. If you have a digital voltmeter, you should have over 12 VDC with everything off, and around 14 VDC when the cart is running (have a friend look at the meter while you drive). If you are getting readings below this, I would take the battery out and go to an automotive store and have it load tested, and replace if necessary. We had the battery on ours go and the cart would hesitate on starting, new battery fixed that immediately. We never noticed any flickering on the headlights, but ours is a 2017 with a NON Yamaha wiring harness and probably the same for the lights..

mrf0151 06-23-2022 09:03 AM

All good suggestions but it all boils down to Carts and Clubs. Only they have the wiring diagram for their carts as they buy the carts from Yamaha without the complete Yamaha wiring system. They do their own in-house wiring. They do this to save a buck. I would press Carts and Clubs a little harder to help with this. Good luck.

OhioBuckeye 06-23-2022 09:14 AM

I agree with you, if it was a bad harness they probably wouldn’t come on at all. It’s a connection that’s barely making contact. Surprised the dealer didn’t check it for you. Unless the owner insisted it was the harness so the dealer gave you a price on the harness. You can check the connection yourself it’s easy!

DaleDivine 06-23-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2109087)
Can you find wiring diagram? You’re headlights, meaning both of them? First would check ground and connectors for corrosion. Look for wires chafing. If they are good them you have to get multimeter and trace each wire from point a to point b. You can also back probe to check voltage. When doing this need to wiggle harness see if voltage fluctuation? Which might mean break stains in particular wire. That’s why it may be costly, time consuming to actually find fault?

Like others has said it both are blinking I would suspect grounding/corrosion problem?

A 2020 with low hours shouldn't have that much corrosion if any. I have seen where tires rub on wires close to headlights before.
Mobile Golf carts wanted to charge me $.50 an hour to trace my electrical problem and would need my cart for at least one or more weeks... Billing the entire 24 hours a day...
With help of my neighbor we found the problem,,,

:(:(:(

LonnyP 06-23-2022 11:05 AM

Call Todd Casey mobile cart repair and have him look at it. He is outstanding.

Topspinmo 06-23-2022 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2109382)
A 2020 with low hours shouldn't have that much corrosion if any. I have seen where tires rub on wires close to headlights before.
Mobile Golf carts wanted to charge me $.50 an hour to trace my electrical problem and would need my cart for at least one or more weeks... Billing the entire 24 hours a day...
With help of my neighbor we found the problem,,,

:(:(:(

All depends on installation and whether cart gets wet, some people can’t get vehicles in garage due it’s full of junk.

Called chafing why got look for it. .50 cent and hour would be slave labor in this country. I sure you’re meant 50 bucks and hour.

Joe C. 06-23-2022 01:02 PM

LED headlights are in many instances, prone to flickering. Most noticeable at idle and low speed. Many Jeep Wrangler owners who change their halogen headlights to LED headlights can attest to this, and as a result, many manufacturers of LED replacement headlights sell their kits with an anti-flicker wiring harness. Maybe you could check out this situation on "google", and see what you can come up with.

KennyP 06-23-2022 06:20 PM

As I read through this post, lets not get confused that yamaha does not charge there carts at a steady rate like club car and ezgo.

It generally goes from high 14 to 16 volts and goes back and forth. If you see this as the lights get brighter and then dimmer this is the issue. Yamahas can be modified to charge at a steady 14.5 volts, but most repair shops dont know how to do it.

jedalton 06-23-2022 08:22 PM

headlights are an accessory?

JMintzer 06-24-2022 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jedalton (Post 2109610)
headlights are an accessory?

Yes, they don't come standard on a normal golf course cart...

kkingston57 06-24-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2109035)
The headlights on my 2020 cart have been flickering at start up speed. The guy from Carts and Clubs says its the front wiring harness and will cost a good chunk of change to fix. He further said it's an accessory and not covered under warranty. Anybody else have this problem? It's more of a nuisance at this time.

Noted you said that is an accessory item. If so, sounds like it was an after market accessory. If you bought this "accessory" from a dealer, did they have any warranty on it? As others stated might be a loose connection. Amazing over last year I have spent more on cart repairs than car repairs and both driven about the same amount of hours.

Bilyclub 06-24-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2109785)
Noted you said that is an accessory item. If so, sounds like it was an after market accessory. If you bought this "accessory" from a dealer, did they have any warranty on it? As others stated might be a loose connection. Amazing over last year I have spent more on cart repairs than car repairs and both driven about the same amount of hours.

I have reached out to Carts and Clubs for some clarification about why they say the problem is their own custom wiring harness and why it's not under warranty.

nn0wheremann 06-27-2022 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2109035)
The headlights on my 2020 cart have been flickering at start up speed. The guy from Carts and Clubs says its the front wiring harness and will cost a good chunk of change to fix. He further said it's an accessory and not covered under warranty. Anybody else have this problem? It's more of a nuisance at this time.

The accessory wiring harness on my Yamaha golf cart was too lightweight for the load on it. I ran a piece of 14 gage house wire through an in-line fuse to the headlights, putting them on their own circuit. All problems solved. Cost less than $10, took less than an hour of time.

villagetinker 06-27-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2110622)
The accessory wiring harness on my Yamaha golf cart was too lightweight for the load on it. I ran a piece of 14 gage house wire through an in-line fuse to the headlights, putting them on their own circuit. All problems solved. Cost less than $10, took less than an hour of time.

You have provided a very good solution, I have seen several wiring harnesses with conductors too small for the connected loads, and then I saw the really bad solution to install larger fuses for the additional load, resulting in a melted wiring harness.

Bilyclub 07-30-2022 07:52 AM

After some discussion with Carts and Clubs they took my cart in to diagnose why it's happening. They replaced the wiring harness and the problem for the most part is gone. They did cover it under the warranty.


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