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MartinSE 07-04-2022 02:42 PM

July 4th parade in Ill
 
How else would WE celebrate Independence Day, but murder each other.

Keefelane66 07-04-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2112743)
How else would WE celebrate Independence Day, but murder each other.

Just another day in America!

JohnN 07-04-2022 02:54 PM

very sad. Highland Park , where the parade was, is a highly upscale neighborhood. Michael Jordan used to have a mansion there. It's on Chi-town's north side right along the lake. The city itself is a cesspool these days, as the shooting and death count just this weekend is skyrocketing.

I personally have good memories of Chicago, but that was a long, long time ago.

Michael G. 07-04-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2112746)

I personally have good memories of Chicago, but that was a long, long time ago.

Yeah, when Al Capon ruled the city.

I lived in Wisconsin most of my life and Chicago was concerned a cesspool to us.
Even the politicians in Milwaukee all came out of Chicago, ran for office, retired then
crawled back to Chitown.

Chi-Town 07-04-2022 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2112750)
Yeah, when Al Capon ruled the city.

I lived in Wisconsin most of my life and Chicago was concerned a cesspool to us.
Even the politicians in Milwaukee all came out of Chicago, ran for office, retired then
crawled back to Chitown.

What a chicken Al Capon was.

justjim 07-04-2022 06:09 PM

The City of Highland Park is a northern suburb of Chicago and about 25 miles north of the city itself. The perpetrator has yet to be caught.

manaboutown 07-04-2022 06:15 PM

Might be Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III. Looks like a real dirtbag in this photo.

What We Know About Person of Interest ID’d in Highland Park Parade Mass Shooting – NBC Chicago

Person of interest identified in Highland Park shooting - ABC7 Los Angeles

Topspinmo 07-04-2022 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2112745)
Just another day in America!


Free to move.

Topspinmo 07-04-2022 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2112750)
Yeah, when Al Capon ruled the city.

I lived in Wisconsin most of my life and Chicago was concerned a cesspool to us.
Even the politicians in Milwaukee all came out of Chicago, ran for office, retired then
crawled back to Chitown.

No different than now.

Tvflguy 07-04-2022 08:25 PM

Every “Mass Shooting” someone simply MUST start a thread on it.

eweissenbach 07-04-2022 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2112793)
Every “Mass Shooting” someone simply MUST start a thread on it.

Yeah, just ignore it and have another drink.

Taltarzac725 07-04-2022 08:52 PM

They caught the prime suspect who has red flags out the wazoo! Suspect captured in shooting at July 4 parade in Chicago'''s Highland Park suburb | Reuters

Two Bills 07-05-2022 01:39 AM

I found this an interesting article by BBC.
In UK 2020/21 there were 235 homicides where knives were involved.
The weapon of choice since guns were banned.

America'''s gun culture - in seven charts - BBC News

GOLFER54 07-05-2022 04:15 AM

Sadly throughout our country these mass murders are taking place it seems on a weekly basis. Police officers are targets, innocent civilians are killed, it isn’t even safe to go to a mall, a gas station, a church, driving in one’s car, a park, or enjoy a parade without worrying some insane maniac might shoot at you. Half the time these killers don’t even have a motive for their murdering rampages.

Two Bills 07-05-2022 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 2112755)
What a chicken Al Capon was.

Big, but no balls!

GOLFER54 07-05-2022 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 2112755)
What a chicken Al Capon was.

.

Alphonse Gabriel Capone

A Capon is a castrated male chicken fattened for eating

thelegges 07-05-2022 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 2112795)
Yeah, just ignore it and have another drink.

Why is it that you think poster needs another drink. Guessing you know them personally, otherwise, just a rude post to someone you have zero knowledge of.

donassaid 07-05-2022 04:49 AM

My question for all those who want to ban guns is, how do you explain and deal with what happens every single weekend in Chicago wbi h has the strictest gun laws in the country? Bad people will always be able to get a gun but we want to foolishly take guns away from away abiding citizens. How upside down can our society get?

Worldseries27 07-05-2022 05:11 AM

Ducks in a row
 
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Originally Posted by golfer54 (Post 2112815)
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Alphonse gabriel capone

a capon is a castrated male chicken fattened for eating

hence post # 5

CFrance 07-05-2022 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2112821)
My question for all those who want to ban guns is, how do you explain and deal with what happens every single weekend in Chicago wbi h has the strictest gun laws in the country? Bad people will always be able to get a gun but we want to foolishly take guns away from away abiding citizens. How upside down can our society get?

Nobody so far had said anything about banning guns. Why bring it up?

GRACEALLEMAN 07-05-2022 06:02 AM

Illinois parade
 
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2112743)
How else would WE celebrate Independence Day, but murder each other.

Did you see the murderer s video and pics on his Facebook?
Violent games
Sick violent video games
The reason.

kcrazorbackfan 07-05-2022 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2112743)
How else would WE celebrate Independence Day, but murder each other.

What race is murdering each other in Bugeye’s Chicago?

Bridget Staunton 07-05-2022 06:43 AM

Did you work in WI, lots of people lived closed to the border worked in IL. WI nice state beautiful landscape

ChicagoNative 07-05-2022 06:55 AM

This area, known as Chicago’s “North Shore” to locals, is among the wealthiest collection of suburbs in the country. These are idyllic towns that look like they came out of a Hallmark movie, and are home to many movers, shakers, captains of industry and their very, very privileged families. In other words, this kind of thing isn’t supposed to happen there.

But it did. And the knee-jerk reaction was swift and predictable. “BAN GUNS!!” Illinois, Chicago and the suburbs arguably have the strictest gun laws in the country. But this still happened, and Chicago continues to make national headlines for the daily body counts. People are getting numb to it. “Ho hum. Another 50 people shot this weekend. Pass the salt.”

Maybe we should stop castrating our police departments, stop electing soft-on-crime prosecutors and woke political leadership, stop focusing on identity and pronouns instead of competence, and stop the indoctrination in the classroom that no longer teaches America the Beautiful, but America the Oppressor.

YeOldeCurmudgeon 07-05-2022 07:17 AM

The problem is that our culture is suffering from severe mental illness. You combine that with easy access to guns and this is what you get. No, it's not just the guns and it's not just the mental health problem. But combine those two and it's like the synergistic effect, and we have this explosion of gun violence. Yes, we need better mental health and yes we need more gun control.

To use Chicago as an example of gun control not working is an outlier and a problem with social conditions there. If you look across the board at other nations with strict gun control, it does work. The fact that we don't follow their example is a sign of cultural mental illness.

Joe C. 07-05-2022 07:26 AM

When you look at other countries that have strict gun control, you will see that they are Socialist or Communist countries (Australia and Great Britain are Socialist), and not Democratic Republics (which the U.S. is). But, let's not go there.

bp243 07-05-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2112743)
How else would WE celebrate Independence Day, but murder each other.

Rather than disparage Chicago, how many of you on this thread are willing to take a stronger stand on weapon ownership and if so, what would it be? ONLY asking to hear from those who believe that a stronger stand on weapons is necessary.

Wyseguy 07-05-2022 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bp243 (Post 2112896)
Rather than disparage Chicago, how many of you on this thread are willing to take a stronger stand on weapon ownership and if so, what would it be? ONLY asking to hear from those who believe that a stronger stand on weapons is necessary.

I think you miss the point. Chicago's insanely high shooting numbers are not due to people with legal guns.

airstreamingypsy 07-05-2022 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GOLFER54 (Post 2112813)
Sadly throughout our country these mass murders are taking place it seems on a weekly basis. Police officers are targets, innocent civilians are killed, it isn’t even safe to go to a mall, a gas station, a church, driving in one’s car, a park, or enjoy a parade without worrying some insane maniac might shoot at you. Half the time these killers don’t even have a motive for their murdering rampages.

Weekly? This is was 308th mass shooting this year and it's the beginning of July.

Haggar 07-05-2022 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 2112755)
What a chicken Al Capon was.

People die in Chicago and you make jokes?

Veiragirl 07-05-2022 08:03 AM

How about this...BAN ALL ASSAULT WEAPONS. THEY ARE MADE FOR THE MILITARY. THEY CAN'T BE USED FOR HUNTING, SPORT SHOOTING OR ANTHING OTHER THAN SHOOTING TO KILL AS MANY VICTIMS IN AS SHORT A TIME AS POSSIBLE.WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHO HAS THIS PROBLEM HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

Ptmckiou 07-05-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2112821)
My question for all those who want to ban guns is, how do you explain and deal with what happens every single weekend in Chicago wbi h has the strictest gun laws in the country? Bad people will always be able to get a gun but we want to foolishly take guns away from away abiding citizens. How upside down can our society get?

It’s very simple. The USA has the highest per capita gun ownership of any other country on the planet. Thereby, by your logic, the USA should be by far the safest country to live on the planet. That is not true. It’s not even close to being true. Consequently, your logic is flawed.

Another thing many like to cherry pick….”Chicago with the strongest gun laws…” Strong gun laws mean nothing in overall statistics, when anyone can drive a few miles to another nearby state and get their weapons with less strict gun laws. Thereby, cancelling out any statistical value to one small area having strict gun laws. It becomes irrelevant, unless all are following the same strict laws. Like our forefathers implied, I’m all for every citizen of the USA to carry a musket. No problem at all. I am against any citizen owning a gun that enables them to kill “faster” without reloading using bullets that explode inside a persons body Lessing their survivability, and it decapitating childrens heads. This type of weaponry is absurd to be accessible by someone not trained and lack maturity to handle them.

bp243 07-05-2022 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2112906)
I think you miss the point. Chicago's insanely high shooting numbers are not due to people with legal guns.

So, if the shooting numbers aren’t due to people with legal guns, what is your solution to the issue?

Wyseguy 07-05-2022 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLFER54 (Post 2112813)
Sadly throughout our country these mass murders are taking place it seems on a weekly basis. Police officers are targets, innocent civilians are killed, it isn’t even safe to go to a mall, a gas station, a church, driving in one’s car, a park, or enjoy a parade without worrying some insane maniac might shoot at you. Half the time these killers don’t even have a motive for their murdering rampages.

We have close to four hundred million people in the country. Many of these came from countries where violence is a way of life. The US is the New York Yankees of the world. We should choose who we allow to immigrate into the US. Not ONLY look for rocket scientists, but people looking for a better life who show that they will add to the country. Bring something positive. Hard worker, tight family ties, overcame hardships etc.. The thousands of MS13, Latin Kings that we let enter and move freely throughout the country is a recipe for disaster. We will still have the mental health issues shootings unfortunately.

MartinSE 07-05-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2112821)
My question for all those who want to ban guns is, how do you explain and deal with what happens every single weekend in Chicago wbi h has the strictest gun laws in the country?

That is not hard to answer population density - Chicago has more people that most red states. And Wyoming has what 13 people?

Now, for you, how do you explain that 7 of the top 10 states for murder rates have are Red states with the least gun control, and 3 of the top 10 have the strictest gun control?

MartinSE 07-05-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2112916)
We have close to four hundred million people in the country. Many of these came from countries where violence is a way of life. The US is the New York Yankees of the world. We should choose who we allow to immigrate into the US. Not ONLY look for rocket scientists, but people looking for a better life who show that they will add to the country. Bring something positive. Hard worker, tight family ties, overcame hardships etc.. The thousands of MS13, Latin Kings that we let enter and move freely throughout the country is a recipe for disaster. We will still have the mental health issues shootings unfortunately.

You are conflating two things - legal immigration and sanitary seekers. If you don't want immigrants then pass laws outlawing immigration. If you don't want to get people sanctuary then change the law that lets them in.

And how many "illegal immigrants" have been involved in mass shootings? Just curious.

billethkid 07-05-2022 08:16 AM

I object to the generalized casting character of America and what she is and who lives there and what they do based on a current incident.....and in the current climate....shootings are the "measure".....only because all too many do nothing more than parrot the media (and their agenda).

We Americans as a whole are not what the media and the parrots prefer to portray!!

Two Bills 07-05-2022 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 2112889)
When you look at other countries that have strict gun control, you will see that they are Socialist or Communist countries (Australia and Great Britain are Socialist), and not Democratic Republics (which the U.S. is). But, let's not go there.

UK government is Conservative, and way to the right of present US government.
We have a social medical ( not private as in USA) and pension system (just like your SS system) which we pay for in taxes etc.
We are as capitalist as USA in our business dealings, and nearly all other services are private businesses, and like the US, we get no free dinners!
You really need to update your take on Socialism, Communism and Capitalism statements.

MartinSE 07-05-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2112821)
My question for all those who want to ban guns is, how do you explain and deal with what happens every single weekend in Chicago wbi h has the strictest gun laws in the country? Bad people will always be able to get a gun but we want to foolishly take guns away from away abiding citizens. How upside down can our society get?

Eight of the top ten states for murder rates have the least gun control, Illinois is not in the top 10.

manaboutown 07-05-2022 08:19 AM

Robert E. Crimo Video Shows Moment Highland Park Shooting Suspect Arrested


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