Here comes the start of the summer wave of a different kind.....
 

COVID Guidelines: CDC Says Wear Masks in NYC Amid New Variant Threat – NBC New York

I am marking my calendar to measure long before it returns to FL?

Fear factor 2022 in time for a certain future event? (our third time cancelled cruise coming booked for November)

This is so much bs. The continued fear mongering...

NYC currently has more cases than when hospitals were overflowing and they shut down.

But rate of deaths and hospitalizations are "relatively" lower compared to then..

Likely due to Vaccines, natural immunity, improved ventilation, and sadly - previous deaths of the most susceptible.

New York is averaging 9,000+ daily BUT Florida is averaging 14,000+ why worry.

With self-testing, how many cases are being reported?

In Marion County, 1000 new cases each of the last two weeks, NOT counting home testing.

Good ? Bet cases reported are less than 50% of the actual. Big difference is that most new cases have very few symptons.

Florida, around here, is one of the highest outbreaks in the country.

Link?

The newer variants are weaker. And, obviously, the shots don't stop anyone from getting or spreading anything.. So, although everyone will likely get it at some point, the risk of death or serious illness has declined.

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Florida stats vs other states:

See the latest data in your region - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

And your risk of long COVID is lower too
 

Good point. Also the current variants are less likely to cause long COVID - only about 5% of former COVID patients get it now. So unless you have risk factors the predispose you for severe disease or long COVID, you can relax a bit.

Omicron Carries Half the Risk of Long COVID as Delta: Study

Still, the positivity rate in Florida is 17% now - so don’t go crazy ;)

Blah, blah, blah…it’s a cold. Funny that in the past 2 years no one died from the flu, pneumonia, cold, or any other upper respiratory infection. That’s what happens when you pay someone $30,000 to call it something else.

Science is my most favorite subject, especially the Old Testament.

Self tested and was positive
 

I had the usual Covid symptoms, including a headache, which I rarely have. I self tested and it was positive. I called my Doctor, he prescribed Paxlovid. I was sick 1 day. I took the antiviral meds and was 90% better the next day. I don’t know if the Doctor reports it or the pharmacy. Either way, it was no worse then a cold. If you test positive, call your Doctor right away. Time is of the essence.

Top cause of death for people over 45
 

Yes, it may feel like a bad cold if you are young and healthy or only got exposed to a small doze of the virus.

Actually a lot of people did die from pneumonia and other these diseases over the past 2 years. And much more died from COVID. It was the #1 cause of death for people over 45 just this winter. Followed by cancer, heart disease, respiratory infection, and stroke in the this age group.

COVID-19 leading cause of death ranking - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

The Villages has minimal cases
 

Here you can look it by county. I figure it'll be at it's worst starting in October.
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...ata_latest.pdf

Exactly right. Face it, everyone will probably get it at some point or has had it. The vaccines are keeping it manageable.

Totally not surprising, we spend roughly 50% of our time between Florida and New England. The precautions taken by the general populations between the two locations are polar opposites. Plus, Florida is such a tourist destination that the amount of people traveling in/out by air, going to crowed venues like Disney, and going on cruise ships lends itself to a much higher likelihood of outbreaks.

We are both vaccinated and boosted and take reasonable, but not excessive, precautions. Neither of us has gotten Covid yet (to the best of our knowledge), and we hope to keep it that way.

Who Cares
 

I’ve had it with the Covid hype, I’m over it. Don’t ask me to get another vaccine and you can have my mask if you need one.

More people coming in and out of Florida with Covid.

So, did you fail the classes? :thumbup:

The link does not give the claimed data...

Sumter county is 200 cases/100,000. Which is equal or lower that almost every other county in the state...

Which contradicts what another poster said earlier in this thread...

"Florida, around here, is one of the highest outbreaks in the country."

Just back from a cruise. We heard that almost every week some people do come down with the virus.

Since we both had it in May we figure we still have a good amount of antibodies but if we did another in a few months would spend a lot of time wearing masks.

CDC estimates that, from October 1, 2021 through June 11, 2022, there have been

8,000,000 – 13,000,000
flu illnesses

5,000 – 14,000
flu deaths

Can you provide evidence of either of your claims - no one dying from Flu, cold, other respiratory infection and someone being paid $30,000 to file a false death report?

We go on 2-3 cruises per year. Have not gone on one since Jan 2020.
Booked on 3 cruises 2 of which were cancelled by the cruise line, one cancelled by us due to mask requirement.

We will not go on any cruise that requires a mask....for us that is not a vacation or escape...FOR US!

"Estimates"???

Don't they track this thru testing?

The irony is quite ironic...

One of the claims made was that vaccinated individuals suffered less severe cases. Other than the June 2021 CDC preprint release which said vaccinated people were 58% less likely to report a high fever, and spend on average two days less in the hospital (The findings were reported June 2021in a preprint on a health services website and have not been peer-reviewed nor published in a medical journal.) is there any peer reviewed study that shows people vaccinated who get covid suffer milder symptoms vs those not vaccinated? Is there a study that deals with the current strain of Covid?
As for continuous boosters, the experts from the European Medicines Agency (EMA)say getting COVID-19 booster shots may actually weaken your immune response. Researchers in Israel say a fourth COVID-19 shot doesn’t appear to produce enough antibodies to prevent infection from the Omicron variant. At times it seems there is a push to use as many vaccine shots as is possible for reasons other than the science. Once we see the lies of an agency it becomes impossible to believe what they say without facts.

About 1/3 of the usual fatalities.

Well, I expect a lot of people were not going out and mingling. I expect some people were susceptible and died of COVID before Flu could get them, and on and on. There is no need to resort to conspiracies with novel situations occur and we don't know the answer to every question.

Tired of It
 

I too am done with this illness. I think shutting down the schools was a big mistake that should not be repeated. I think closing small businesses & driving them out of business was a tragedy.

I don’t know everything and certainly not everything about Covid….but the few chosen pharmaceutical companies given authorization to provide the shots have never had it so financially good.

Such a study may be determined to be unethical since it would require withholding a known-effective vaccine and placing people in real jeopardy of dying. Plus, it may be difficult to find a representational random sample since so many have already had the vaccine.

An approach that does work is real world observations. If the vaccine is *not* effective in lessening symptoms then the ratio of hospitalizations and deaths between vaccinated and unvaccinated would be similar to the ratio in the general population. it is not, the unvaccinated are several times more likely to be hospitalized and die. This is proof enough for me.

Now, if the question is whether a mild case in a vaccinated person is less severe than a mild case in an unvaccinated, does it really matter?


What lies and which agency? That statement seems like an attempt at justifying confirmation bias.

Just one question: If they go back to requiring masks on airplanes, are you going to be that person that forces the pilot to land and disrupt 300 other passengers?????

Your suspicions are cool, but others are "conspiracies"?