The Open
 

On Comcast channel 30 USA, Cameron Young in lead, will be reluctant to pull for ANY LIV players especially Poulter.

The HD channel is 420, but your TV may be set to automatically switch from Channel 30 to the HD channel. John Daly looks like Santa Claus.

Ditto here. Although I have come to grips with the …. Defectors…. A few weeks ago I personally thought that I could jump to LIV if I was in a position as some of those guys. Yep money talks.

That said I do find my self in the camp of “I hope that a LIV Jumper does not do well or win it all”.

I never root against anyone not named Rory Sabbatini.

Charles Barkley stated, in jest, when asked about the LIV golfers: “For 200 Million Dollars I could kill a relative, even a close one”

. A good example of why they need to end the lifetime exemption. This is why The Masters committee wrote letters asking the older champions to not play. People like John Daly, Darren Clarke and several other past champions that have zero chance of winning and probably won’t make the cut are taking spots that young players that might be competitive might have.

Think Doug Ford and The Masters

Tiger had a rough start, first birdie well into the round produced a funny moment.

LIV players should not even be allowed to play in the Open.

Why?
 

I am sure none of you on this board ever changed jobs for more money purely out of loyalty. LIV is just another tour with a different format. Did you all have the same problem when they started the Sr Tour. LIV appears to be for player (still professional golfers) that aren't as sharp as they were in their prime. Why not LIV?

Free agency was the end of player loyalty to teams and fans. Golf is just catching up with every other sport. Players now have options. Tom Brady is a Buccaneer.

Greg Norman being uninvited to The Open was disgraceful. The Royal and Ancient’s reaction was more like the selfish act of a spoiled child than the distinguished organization they profess to be.

Valid points. And a couple of the reasons why I had done a 180 re LIV switchers. I finally put myself in their golf shoes, and yep Money Talks. Such a good example re “normal working folks” change jobs because of $$$$. Loyalty etc etc goes just so far, especially these days.

This all said, I do hope that a non-LIV guy takes the Cup. Just sayin’.

The British Open grants past champions an exemption through age 60, with a further exemption granted for another five years for any past winner who places among the top 10.

Daly is 56.

May watch this weekend. Is Tiger walking any better?

Glad to see LIV players at top of leaderboard.

In that case, they would need to change the tournament name, unless they have changed the definition of an open tournament. When a golf tournament uses the name "open" in the title, it means that any golfer can compete for the available spaces in it. The same would apply to the U.S. Open.

Liv
 

If you have to ask you're not very informed

I am watching it on tv. It is about 1:20 pm in Scotland and the weather is great but the stands are remarkably empty. At the 1st and 18th holes, they appear to be about half full. Would never see that at the Masters.

Same here!! DJ in first place and Taylor Gooch just two shots behind him. It forces the biased PGA Tour commentators to talk about them. 😂

Nope. And he won’t be playing this weekend. Sad to say that. He’s hurting, but so good to see the GOAT try. Will prob be his last Open,esp at the Old Course.

I am watching the Open. There are five players named Kim.

Chan Kim
Joohyung Kim
Minkyu Kim
Si Woo Kim
Sihwan Kim

It would be great if they all got into a 5 way playoff!!

Daly
 

Daly is playing?? Might have to tune in to see his outfit. LOL

In 2009, at the age of 59, Tom Watson lost in a playoff. He was a prior champion. Some of the fans likely enjoy seeing the prior winners. No reason to turn them away.

It was the behavior of a high school Sophomore, who had his girlfriend stolen by a Senior.

On the other hand, the R&A did the right thing with regards to Mark Calcavecchia.

Say what you mean
 

I am very informed and stated my thoughts an opinion unlike your brief insult. Say what you mean by your non comment.

Agree with what you said.

Still can not determine how this new "league" is going to make money especially with the guarantees to mostly newcomers and players out of their prime lack of sponsors, lack of TV contract, competition with the PGA tour, tournaments not in prime time with the US, 54 hole shotgun starts tournaments, crazy perks.....

Wonder if Mr. Norman has a personal financial stake in this.

The LIV (or 54) controversy appears to be about Saudi Arabia and the fact that they don’t live up to our standards on human rights. Neither does China and many other countries but for some reason, the PGA and R&A seem to have a different standard for Saudi Arabia.
However, the US buys billions of dollars of oil from the Saudis and the US president was there yesterday trying to get more oil.

Some on the PGA say that it isn’t about the money but it is the principle,

When someone says, 'It ain't the money but the principle of the thing,' it's the money.

British Open
 

Personally, I have no problem w/any golfer joining the LIV. This is not like baseball, where you sign a 5 year, 30 million contract to play. In golf, if you don't make cuts or whatever, you don't make any money. So if they want to go for the money, so be it.

Looks to be an historic low-score day for Day 3 there. Weather conditions ripe for low 60’s scoring by some there.

With all the scenes from SA I would love to go visit, amazing. And walk a course. Just walk, no ball-hitting. I get enough grief with TV courses.

BTW I will miss Nick Faldo color commentaries when he retires soon. Love him.

There are no cuts in LIV golf. You show up, you get paid.

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Could not have said it better

If I were the PGA, I would say you can play but in order to be a member of the PGA you have to commit to at least 15 PGA tournaments a year, you receive no world golf ranking points in LVI tournaments as you are only playing three rounds, you cannot play in the PGA championship, and you do not qualify for the Fed Ex Cup. That may be enough to sway some not to go. I certainly understand guys like Mickelson going because he is no longer competitive, but guys like Dustin Johnson, and DeChambeau are still so what’s their reasoning.

Great replay.....:beer3:

In some way I agree, but if you are not good enough to make any cuts you probably should not be on the PGA tour, and I doubt you would keep your card status very long.

If the PGA Tour continues to try and exclude LIV players, I predict a very interesting lawsuit soon. It will be interesting to watch the Tour try to justify both their US monopoly AND non-profit status, while grossing about $1.5B and netting over $70M per year. Particularly, while paying their commissioner almost $9M per year and their payments to charities (excluding the entities putting on the tournaments contributions) being pretty chintzy percentage wise.

As PGA Execs Collect Millions, Critics Question Its Nonprofit Status – InsideSources

If the Saudis pull the plug they'll come crawling back.

When a player qualifies for the PGA tour, he signs an agreement with several stipulations one of which is to not play in competing events. Players may ask for and will often be granted permission to play in a few competing events during the year. A player from Italy, for example might be granted permission to play in the Italian Open even though it is played at the same time as a PGA Tour event. Every player agrees to these terms so it is not surprising that some players have resigned their PGA Tour membership or that the tour is suspending those who have violated their agreement.

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Yep, LIV is just like 3 practice rounds of golf. No incentive to win. They get no extra money for the positions where they finish...

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Well back to the actual thread topic.

Rory sure looks primed to take the Cup. Makes me pleased for many reasons. He finally has put it all together so far, both mentally and physically. The Old course fits him well. And being the Top player advocate for PGA players it would stick a finger in the LIV guys. I’d think that that motivates him a bit as well.

IMO he is certainly deserving and the local fans support is surely there.

Round 4 will be exciting. Go Rory!

In the Portland event, the difference between first and last place was right at $3,800,000.