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Michael G. 07-21-2022 01:12 PM

Hot Temps
 
In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.

Dr.Butler 07-21-2022 01:59 PM

Not everyplace in the US , have AC. This i also the issue in Europe, a region that has simply never needed it before.

ThirdOfFive 07-21-2022 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2117649)
In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.

Gotta say, I LOVE the heat. Coming from Minnesota where it can snow in July (I've seen it happen), this weather is heaven. Mark Twain once observed that "Minnesota has 51 weeks of winter and one week of bad skiing each year". He wasn't that far wrong. I'll take 95 and humid over weather so cold that diesel fuel turns to jell-O and icicles form in your nose hairs.

MartinSE 07-21-2022 02:48 PM

Common sense - sigh. It seems to be the answer to everything.

Phoenix normally has temps over 100 for more than a month each summer. This year they are breaking records. With temps over 100 people die from exposure. England experienced over 1000 deaths from heat so far this summer.

Yeah, all they need is common sense... ahem.

Topspinmo 07-21-2022 04:14 PM

I blame it deforestation of the fly over States all for corn, wheat, and soybeans.

O, also population explosion.

Topspinmo 07-21-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2117682)
Common sense - sigh. It seems to be the answer to everything.

Phoenix normally has temps over 100 for more than a month each summer. This year they are breaking records. With temps over 100 people die from exposure. England experienced over 1000 deaths from heat so far this summer.

Yeah, all they need is common sense... ahem.

I was in England in late 80s and early 90’s. Even when temperatures hit 85 degrees there was heat related deaths. And yes it got over 90 several times.

I was born in NW Missouri nearly every July and August it reaches 100 degrees or more. My grandpa was poor we didn’t have air conditioning. People worked 10 or 12 hours in heat. Only remember a few heat related problems.

I was also stationed in ft worth tx. In 1980 the whole month of June it never got below 100 degrees during the day or less than 85 at night. I worked on flight line, concrete oven.

Topspinmo 07-21-2022 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Butler (Post 2117660)
Not everyplace in the US , have AC. This i also the issue in Europe, a region that has simply never needed it before.


Nor could average worker afford it.

tophcfa 07-21-2022 04:30 PM

I’ll take 100 degrees at our Villages home (with air conditioning and a pool) over 85 degrees at our log home up north any day. Can’t put in duck work for central air in an existing log home and the significant expense for a mini split system can’t be justified for the couple of weeks per year A/C is necessary. Plus, the system wouldn’t work well with the 22 foot vaulted ceilings. Oh well, crank up the fans and deal with it, before we know it we will be more concerned with cranking up the wood stove for heat.

Michael G. 07-21-2022 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2117701)
I was in England in late 80s and early 90’s. Even when temperatures hit 85 degrees there was heat related deaths. And yes it got over 90 several times.

I was born in NW Missouri nearly every July and August it reaches 100 degrees or more. My grandpa was poor we didn’t have air conditioning. People worked 10 or 12 hours in heat. Only remember a few heat related problems.

I was also stationed in ft worth tx. In 1980 the whole month of June it never got below 100 degrees during the day or less than 85 at night. I worked on flight line, concrete oven.

Thanks for your comments.

I'd also want to add you were younger back then and could take the heat better.

Maybe a lot of early deaths in older people years ago were contribute to weather and making a living outside in all kinds of weather.

tophcfa 07-21-2022 04:47 PM

Florida gets one accustomed to tolerating the heat. Played golf up north yesterday with a couple of my buddies in the sweltering heat. I had my best round in a long time and both of my buddies fell apart on the back nine and barely finished.

On the other hand, Florida softens up one’s ability to deal with the cold. My same buddies will be winter camping up north in January while I’m floating in our heated pool in Florida.

Michael G. 07-21-2022 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2117716)
Florida gets one accustomed to tolerating the heat. Played golf up north yesterday with a couple of my buddies in the sweltering heat. I had my best round in a long time and both of my buddies fell apart on the back nine and barely finished.

On the other hand, Florida softens up one’s ability to deal with the cold. My same buddies will be winter camping up north in January while I’m floating in our heated pool in Florida.

Yep, one tradeoff for an other.
Some live hugging a furnace for 6 months, we don't stray
far from our AC.

I wonder how I would adjust to a January day in the Midwest after spending so many years down in Florida

frose 07-21-2022 05:34 PM

easy way to push global warming.. what a crock of crap(not the word I wanted to use)

Topspinmo 07-21-2022 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2117710)
Thanks for your comments.

I'd also want to add you were younger back then and could take the heat better.

Maybe a lot of early deaths in older people years ago were contribute to weather and making a living outside in all kinds of weather.

My grandpa wasn’t, late 60’s digging graves with hand shovel, mowing with push mower, and doing lots of odd jobs to scrape out living. We had box fan thought we were in heaven.
Majority older people are not working now. Maybe in our old age we have it too good?

Koapaka 07-21-2022 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Butler (Post 2117660)
Not everyplace in the US , have AC. This i also the issue in Europe, a region that has simply never needed it before.

Lived in Germany (Ramstein AB) in the late 80's, we had 95+ days often so this is nothing new, just not the "norm"

MartinSE 07-21-2022 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by frose (Post 2117725)
easy way to push global warming.. what a crock of crap(not the word I wanted to use)

Yes, the ENTIRE world is in on the conspiracy. Seriously, you believe that?

banjobob 07-22-2022 05:20 AM

Your absolutely right , follow the money to see why this hoax is continually being promoted.. Maybe the next scam “Monkey Pox” will save us all.

Monika Greiner 07-22-2022 05:22 AM

Hot Temps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frose (Post 2117725)
easy way to push global warming.. what a crock of crap(not the word I wanted to use)

I was in Germany for 24 years and sometimes it snowed in June other times we had 95 to 100 in August not very often.

B-flat 07-22-2022 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2117764)
Yes, the ENTIRE world is in on the conspiracy. Seriously, you believe that?

If you don’t believe it dig deeper.

Rainger99 07-22-2022 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2117700)
I blame it deforestation of the fly over States all for corn, wheat, and soybeans.

O, also population explosion.

When were the flyover states forested? Every book I have read said that it was like a sea of grass - almost no trees. Early settlers lived in sod homes - not log cabins because there were no trees.

MartinSE 07-22-2022 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by B-flat (Post 2117802)
If you don’t believe it dig deeper.

I did when I was 18, I read all of the John Birch sSociety BS. Then I grew up.

tsmall22204 07-22-2022 06:04 AM

Oh you are one of those. There is no talking to you about it because of the closed .ind syndrome.

NoMo50 07-22-2022 06:06 AM

You just need to use your common sense when dealing with the heat. Put reasonable limits on outdoor activities. Limit direct sun exposure. Use your sunscreen. Drink PLENTY of fluids. And yeah, while a cold beer when you're hot sure tastes good, it is not the kind of liquid your body wants! Listen to your body...it will tell you when you are getting near your limit.

All that said, I will take the four months of hot & steamy weather here, and enjoy the other 8 months of picture perfect weather.

MartinSE 07-22-2022 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 2117811)
Oh you are one of those. There is no talking to you about it because of the closed .ind syndrome.

It helps your post to make sense if you let us in on who you are referring to.

If you were referring to me, that is absolutely wrong. I am open to discuss anything. But a driveway snarky post with nothing to back it up is not discussion.

MartinSE 07-22-2022 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2117813)
You just need to use your common sense when dealing with the heat. Put reasonable limits on outdoor activities. Limit direct sun exposure. Use your sunscreen. Drink PLENTY of fluids. And yeah, while a cold beer when you're hot sure tastes good, it is not the kind of liquid your body wants! Listen to your body...it will tell you when you are getting near your limit.

All that said, I will take the four months of hot & steamy weather here, and enjoy the other 8 months of picture perfect weather.

Good advice except for one point. Your body will NOT tell you that you are thirsty until it is too late. When you are out and it is hot you need to hydrate BEFORE your body telling you that you are thirsty.

jbrown132 07-22-2022 06:30 AM

It’s the media!

jbrown132 07-22-2022 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2117649)
In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.

It’s the media!

Bay Kid 07-22-2022 06:33 AM

It is summer. Always warm. Winter. Always cold.

ThirdOfFive 07-22-2022 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2117797)
Your absolutely right , follow the money to see why this hoax is continually being promoted.. Maybe the next scam “Monkey Pox” will save us all.

Yep. Follow the money.

What do we think generates more hits, views and clicks? Stories about families frolicking on the beach on a hot July day, or people dying of the heat?

Answer? $$$$$

Ropnrose 07-22-2022 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2117682)
Common sense - sigh. It seems to be the answer to everything.

Phoenix normally has temps over 100 for more than a month each summer. This year they are breaking records. With temps over 100 people die from exposure. England experienced over 1000 deaths from heat so far this summer.

Yeah, all they need is common sense... ahem.

Only 5% of houses in England have air conditioning.

MrFlorida 07-22-2022 07:35 AM

Wait a few months, then they will be crying it's too cold.....

Topspinmo 07-22-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2117803)
When were the flyover states forested? Every book I have read said that it was like a sea of grass - almost no trees. Early settlers lived in sod homes - not log cabins because there were no trees.


That’s what happens when you believe what in book. Not in Kansas Toto..

Rwirish 07-22-2022 08:26 AM

Hot temps need to be reported and stressed to achieve a certain political objective.

Carlsondm 07-22-2022 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2117649)
In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.

We have homes prepared for the heat..AC. Many places ..Spain, England, and some northern states are seeing record heat. They often don't have AC or at least AC designed for current temperatures. Don't look at just daily or short-term temperatures, look at annual averages.

Just a few degrees increase in our high temperatures, plus the humidity and we are in serious heat stress conditions. Something to think about. Florida weather stations say we are trending upward already. Time to AC the golf cart.

Glowfromminnesota 07-22-2022 09:56 AM

Me too! From White Bear Lake, MN.

MartinSE 07-22-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 2117903)
Hot temps need to be reported and stressed to achieve a certain political objective.

When you have a hammer everything is a nail... ahem.

Nucky 07-22-2022 10:11 AM

We struggled our first year in The Villages. Second year we started pounding down massive amounts of water and that really seemed to do th trick. The heat is not a big issue for us anymore. We manage the time of the day that we do the things we need to do.

There have been days where we still did the things that normally work and we were still begging for the next breathe. We also had a chance to get a Atomic A/C Golf Cart for a great price but decided against. We actually enjoy the heat on our old bones.

Velvet 07-22-2022 10:21 AM

I remember last July in TV it is said it could have been the hottest July on record. It was my first summer in TV and like I do up north had late breakfast and at noon I started to hand weed in the full sun. My neighbor came over and laughed, he said, do you have to do that at the hottest part of the day? Then I noticed everyone else was gardening in the early morning. Lesson learned, one adapts.

Michael G. 07-22-2022 10:22 AM

I believe I read where anything above 90 degrees the human body cannot cool itself effectively and starts to shut down.

Around our house June through September, we try to do our lawn work before 8 - 9 a.m. and that's only one day a week.

Again, common sense prevails

MartinSE 07-22-2022 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2117938)
I believe I read where anything above 90 degrees the human body cannot cool itself effectively and starts to shut down.

Around our house June through September, we try to do our lawn work before 8 - 9 a.m. and that's only one day a week.

Again, common sense prevails

I think that is based on if the temperature outside your body is higher than the temperature inside your body heat will not escape, instead you body will be heated. However, at that point your body has the ability to sweat and when the sweat evaporates it cools your body. People live in Phoenix (I did) and there are steaks of temperatures above 100 everyday all day for up to 2 months. You can survive there if you drink enough, because you lose a LOT of water through sweating. It is not uncommon for people visiting Phoenix during one of those streaks to have heat strokes because they don't understand just how much water you need to drink.

So, my advice to everyone here, especially if you have migrated here from up north in the past couple years is to drink soon, before your are thirsty, drink often, even if you are not thirsty. It is far better to drink too much than too little in the summer. Carry a bottle of water with you if you are going to be outside. And drink a liter in no more than an hour. (Tip: Freeze a bottle of water and take it with you, then drink it as it melts)

rsimpson 07-22-2022 11:04 AM

Weather Porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2117649)
In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.


This is Media selling stories and clicks and blaming mankind on global warming. Funny how they know that in 4.1 billion years, earth (and Scranton, PA) never got this hot before.


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