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yabbadu 07-24-2022 09:55 AM

Yamaha Suspension
 
Is there anything that can be done on a 2013 Yamaha G29 cart to soften the ride. Especially going up and down the curbs throughout the villages between the various village gateway areas.

:pray:

tophcfa 07-24-2022 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 2118568)
Is there anything that can be done on a 2013 Yamaha G29 cart to soften the ride. Especially going up and down the curbs throughout the villages between the various village gateway areas.

:pray:

Bigger tires and or letting some air out of the tires will both soften the ride a little bit, but letting air out will also reduce handling and wear the tire tread faster. When Yamaha introduced the quiet tech model (I think starting in 2017) they began making carts with rear independent suspension, which makes a huge difference absorbing bumps.

villagetinker 07-24-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 2118568)
Is there anything that can be done on a 2013 Yamaha G29 cart to soften the ride. Especially going up and down the curbs throughout the villages between the various village gateway areas.

:pray:

Is your cart "stock", then I would double check the tire pressure, I believe 22 PSI is correct for stock tires. Now if your cart has been modified (like ours), we have the 4 passenger mod with a fold down seat which has a stiffer suspension, so I am familiar with the stiff ride. We slow down or try to cross at a SLIGHT angle both of these lessen the bumps.

Toymeister 07-24-2022 04:22 PM

Yes you can soften the suspension.

Monroe MA785 air shocks fit. You can make the shocks as soft or hard as you like. But, I would look at the springs first. Many of the Yamahas with the rear facing seat have the springs replaced with a stiffer spring. Return to OEM for a better ride.

Keefelane66 07-24-2022 06:41 PM

Slow down it's not designed like a car even though they are around $2000 less than the least expensive vehicle.

tophcfa 07-24-2022 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2118659)
Yes you can soften the suspension.

Monroe MA785 air shocks fit. You can make the shocks as soft or hard as you like. But, I would look at the springs first. Many of the Yamahas with the rear facing seat have the springs replaced with a stiffer spring. Return to OEM for a better ride.

Please elaborate, I am very interested. We have a 2014 two person Yamaha EFI. I can’t go into the garage to look because I’m up north, but as far as I know the rear end is a solid axel with no shock absorbers. If I could retrofit it with some rear shocks to soften up the ride I would be all over it? I love the cart, but yearn for a quiet tech because of the independent rear suspension.

Topspinmo 07-24-2022 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2118678)
Please elaborate, I am very interested. We have a 2014 two person Yamaha EFI. I can’t go into the garage to look because I’m up north, but as far as I know the rear end is a solid axel with no shock absorbers. If I could retrofit it with some rear shocks to soften up the ride I would be all over it? I love the cart, but yearn for a quiet tech because of the independent rear suspension.

You will also be yearning to spend some cash…


You’re Yamaha golf cart has coil over shocks on the front and rear. The springs are built into shocks which sets height due to weight and socks absorb the suspension. You make be able to get market adjustable shocks to adjust shock and height base on weight. Now the tires has impact the taller the side wall the more cushion the ride, the shorts the side wall the more harsh ride. This where adjustable coil over shocks can help?

Topspinmo 07-24-2022 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2118647)
Is your cart "stock", then I would double check the tire pressure, I believe 22 PSI is correct for stock tires. Now if your cart has been modified (like ours), we have the 4 passenger mod with a fold down seat which has a stiffer suspension, so I am familiar with the stiff ride. We slow down or try to cross at a SLIGHT angle both of these lessen the bumps.

Depends on size of tires 8”, 10” 65 or 50 series tires?

Topspinmo 07-24-2022 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2118659)
Yes you can soften the suspension.

Monroe MA785 air shocks fit. You can make the shocks as soft or hard as you like. But, I would look at the springs first. Many of the Yamahas with the rear facing seat have the springs replaced with a stiffer spring. Return to OEM for a better ride.


Yamaha have coil over shocks no leaf springs. It would have to be adjustable coil over shock. And another thing air shock do nothing cushion the ride the air shocks only adjust height the sock absorber cushions the ride, air bags does both.

bowlingal 07-25-2022 04:45 AM

why in the world are you going over curbs??

Fredster 07-25-2022 04:47 AM

Can feel the OP’s pain.
Recently I sold a ‘14 Yamaha factory 4 seat cart because the ride was so harsh. It had a stiffer suspension and the seats were pretty standard.
I found that I was avoiding using the cart because of the ride quality.
I replaced it with a ‘15 Yamaha 2 seat cart which had upgraded seats. The softer seat cushioning made the ride
much comfortable (especially going over curbs).
An unexpected bonus, was that it also quieted
engine noise.
As far as I know the suspension is standard and I’m running 26 psi tire pressure.
A friend of mine was not happy with his ride quality, and checked out my cart seats…now he’s having his standard seats reupholstered.
So, another option is to improve/upgrade the seats!

Fredster 07-25-2022 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2118708)
why in the world are you going over curbs??

I believe he’s referring to the concrete transitions you have to drive over at an entrance to an area of homes.
There are quite a few around.

randykw 07-25-2022 05:44 AM

Contact, The Tire Guy (Andy Robinson) 352-434-2254.

All he does is Tires and Suspensions. Recommended by Willie's GC Repair.

FYI...he may be on vacation until the end of the July. He will be able to answer your question.

nn0wheremann 07-25-2022 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 2118568)
Is there anything that can be done on a 2013 Yamaha G29 cart to soften the ride. Especially going up and down the curbs throughout the villages between the various village gateway areas.

:pray:

I put some 3 inch foam pads on the seat of my 2009 Yamaha, under the slip cover, and learned to lean forward when crossing curbs. Better for the backbones and less knashing of teeth. Not costly or difficult to install either.

geobar 07-25-2022 07:45 AM

Golf Cart driving on Curbs
 
Do not understand why anyone would use a Golf Cart to go up or down Curbs.

Of course, it would be bumpy (duh) not only that you will as well damage your alignment.

On the few occasions while living in the villages (as we moved out of the overcrowded Villages 2 years ago) I would go either up or down a curb at a 45-degree angle. Of course very SLOWLY.

:doh:

yabbadu 07-25-2022 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2118708)
why in the world are you going over curbs??

Everyone goes up/down at the curb entry/exits at the gate crossings. !!!!!

You must not have cart to not know that!:coolsmiley:

Bill14564 07-25-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by geobar (Post 2118777)
Do not understand why anyone would use a Golf Cart to go up or down Curbs.

Of course, it would be bumpy (duh) not only that you will as well damage your alignment.

On the few occasions while living in the villages (as we moved out of the overcrowded Villages 2 years ago) I would go either up or down a curb at a 45-degree angle. Of course very SLOWLY.

:doh:

Reply #12 may help.

EDIT: See #16 also.

RICH1 07-25-2022 08:21 AM

Yaba, take a fat gal for a ride…if it helps, keep her around…but then again new coil over shocks & springs might be cheaper than groceries

ElDiabloJoe 07-25-2022 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 2118710)
I believe he’s referring to the concrete transitions you have to drive over at an entrance to an area of homes.
There are quite a few around.

I've always known those to be "driveway aprons," not curbs. Can't speak for the OP, perhaps that is what thinks of them as.

Topspinmo 07-25-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by geobar (Post 2118777)
Do not understand why anyone would use a Golf Cart to go up or down Curbs.

Of course, it would be bumpy (duh) not only that you will as well damage your alignment.

On the few occasions while living in the villages (as we moved out of the overcrowded Villages 2 years ago) I would go either up or down a curb at a 45-degree angle. Of course very SLOWLY.

:doh:


I doubt he jumping curbs, more like street drainage dips on off MMP.

Mrfriendly 07-25-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2118647)
Is your cart "stock", then I would double check the tire pressure, I believe 22 PSI is correct for stock tires. Now if your cart has been modified (like ours), we have the 4 passenger mod with a fold down seat which has a stiffer suspension, so I am familiar with the stiff ride. We slow down or try to cross at a SLIGHT angle both of these lessen the bumps.

Just bought a 2020 Yamaha quiet tech with 10" tires. Dealer instructed me to put 22lbs air in front tires and 24lbs in rear for a smoother ride and not feel "every little pebble"

VJBama 07-25-2022 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2118695)
You will also be yearning to spend some cash…


You’re Yamaha golf cart has coil over shocks on the front and rear. The springs are built into shocks which sets height due to weight and socks absorb the suspension. You make be able to get market adjustable shocks to adjust shock and height base on weight. Now the tires has impact the taller the side wall the more cushion the ride, the shorts the side wall the more harsh ride. This where adjustable coil over shocks can help?

I'm Toymeister's neighbor, he has done some this shock change for me, so let me get this out there first: you don't know what you're talking about!

Toy is talking about two courses of action. First replace the springs with existing shocks and softer springs. OR replace the shock/spring assembly with only Monroe shocks. He did both for me. I have two Yesteryear carts. On one he replaced the existing air shocks, the OEM default is air shocks only. On the other he removed the air shocks and replaced with shock spring combo. Neither appeared difficult. Two bolts on each shock, remove and replace

Fastskiguy 07-25-2022 12:46 PM

The transition from road to multi modal path at the village gates are really abrupt up north. I suggest you sell you home and buy one in the southern villages...something south of 44, the transitions are much more smooth down here.

Joe

(PS just for clarity, this was an example of sarcasm :) )

Topspinmo 07-25-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VJBama (Post 2118870)
I'm Toymeister's neighbor, he has done some this shock change for me, so let me get this out there first: you don't know what you're talking about!

Toy is talking about two courses of action. First replace the springs with existing shocks and softer springs. OR replace the shock/spring assembly with only Monroe shocks. He did both for me. I have two Yesteryear carts. On one he replaced the existing air shocks, the OEM default is air shocks only. On the other he removed the air shocks and replaced with shock spring combo. Neither appeared difficult. Two bolts on each shock, remove and replace

Is yesteryear on Yamaha frame? Yamaha has coil over shocks. I bet you don’t even know what platform you YY cart built on?

Bill14564 07-25-2022 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VJBama (Post 2118870)
I'm Toymeister's neighbor, he has done some this shock change for me, so let me get this out there first: you don't know what you're talking about!

Toy is talking about two courses of action. First replace the springs with existing shocks and softer springs. OR replace the shock/spring assembly with only Monroe shocks. He did both for me. I have two Yesteryear carts. On one he replaced the existing air shocks, the OEM default is air shocks only. On the other he removed the air shocks and replaced with shock spring combo. Neither appeared difficult. Two bolts on each shock, remove and replace

You will want to check the particular cart model you are working with. My Drive 2 has coil-over-springs units that appear to be built as a unit that cannot be disassembled. More, the mounts for the front and rear are different and neither would be compatible with the Monroe model mentioned.

Different carts use different parts and those Monroe shocks may work on some. Just make sure to check what your cart needs before ordering parts that aren't going to work.

Toymeister 07-25-2022 04:49 PM

Rarely am I aware of inaccuracies of posts of those that I have blocked or even bother to correct them.

But since sometimes people rely on the musings of idiots let me set this straight.

1. Yesteryear carts use Yamaha frames.

2. Yamaha shocks absolutely can be separated from the coil over springs and reassembled with new springs.

I know this because I have done it, not because I am some random internet poster who wants to impress strangers that I will never meet and do not care how smart I am.

The question was asked and I answered it accurately. If you want a softer ride I have given two mechanical ways to do exactly that.

Bill14564 07-25-2022 05:21 PM

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Topspinmo 07-25-2022 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2118935)
Rarely am I aware of inaccuracies of posts of those that I have blocked or even bother to correct them.

But since sometimes people rely on the musings of idiots let me set this straight.

1. Yesteryear carts use Yamaha frames.

2. Yamaha shocks absolutely can be separated from the coil over springs and reassembled with new springs.

I know this because I have done it, not because I am some random internet poster who wants to impress strangers that I will never meet and do not care how smart I am.

The question was asked and I answered it accurately. If you want a softer ride I have given two mechanical ways to do exactly that.

You right I don’t care how smart you nor will never met you. Would coil over shocks have coils and not springs.

DaleDivine 07-25-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 2118568)
Is there anything that can be done on a 2013 Yamaha G29 cart to soften the ride. Especially going up and down the curbs throughout the villages between the various village gateway areas.

:pray:

I put a 1" extension on my 2015 Yamaha.

:wave::wave:

phousel 07-26-2022 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2118708)
why in the world are you going over curbs??

I believe OP is referring to areas where you (usually) transfer from cart path to cross road and there is a concrete "gutter" that the cart will also cross over.

zummy 07-26-2022 05:31 AM

Want a better ride, buy a car

biker1 07-26-2022 06:39 AM

Perhaps he/she wants a golf cart because they play golf.


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Originally Posted by zummy (Post 2119014)
Want a better ride, buy a car


Chuckndianne 07-26-2022 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 2118568)
Is there anything that can be done on a 2013 Yamaha G29 cart to soften the ride. Especially going up and down the curbs throughout the villages between the various village gateway areas.

:pray:

Slow down.

mkjelenbaas 07-26-2022 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 2118568)
Is there anything that can be done on a 2013 Yamaha G29 cart to soften the ride. Especially going up and down the curbs throughout the villages between the various village gateway areas.

:pray:

Not at all.

Shimpy 07-26-2022 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2118818)
I've always known those to be "driveway aprons," not curbs. Can't speak for the OP, perhaps that is what thinks of them as.

They are much improved south of 466a.

ThehappypeopleLOL 07-26-2022 06:00 PM

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2118708)
why in the world are you going over curbs??



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