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oldtimes 07-25-2022 07:01 AM

Really Hyundai?
 
No one knew there were children working there?
Exclusive: Hyundai subsidiary has used child labor at Alabama factory | Reuters

Tvflguy 07-25-2022 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2118749)


If it’s reported in the Media it HAS to be right…. Just sayin’.

MrFlorida 07-25-2022 07:36 AM

The sad part is, people will actually believe this article...

Bill14564 07-25-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2118749)

EDIT: Misunderstood/overlooked information in the article. Incorrect impression removed.


I do wonder how the SMART plant managers will explain the underage workers. Sure, they may rely on still other agencies to provide temporary workers but when the 13 year old walked through the door someone should have noticed.

oldtimes 07-25-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2118791)
A little hard to blame Hyundai, they just buy parts from the supplier. I wouldn't think it was fair or reasonable for someone to blame me for the working conditions at the Amazon warehouse that supplies the things I buy. I just want my stuff to show up, Hyundai just wants its parts to show up, and we both rely on the supplier to follow applicable laws.

I do wonder how the SMART plant managers will explain the underage workers. Sure, they may rely on still other agencies to provide temporary workers but when the 13 year old walked through the door someone should have noticed.

But the SMART plant was not just a supplier, it was a subsidiary

Topspinmo 07-25-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2118791)
EDIT: Misunderstood/overlooked information in the article. Incorrect impression removed.


I do wonder how the SMART plant managers will explain the underage workers. Sure, they may rely on still other agencies to provide temporary workers but when the 13 year old walked through the door someone should have noticed.

I worked in grocery store for 60 cents hour in 1965.

oldtimes 07-25-2022 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2118830)
I worked in grocery store for 60 cents hour in 1965.

Back when bread was 17 cents a loaf. A few things have changed.

Luggage 07-26-2022 05:22 AM

I have to wonder that nobody in the factory reported this to OSHA and that there was no Union rep?

Blackbird45 07-26-2022 05:46 AM

If the story is true and I don't doubt it, someone must have reported the problem to the authorities.
It could have been a co-worker or even a plant manager.
But as I think we all come to realized, today very few people want to take credit for doing the right thing of fear of reprisal.

oldtimes 07-26-2022 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2119023)
If the story is true and I don't doubt it, someone must have reported the problem to the authorities.
It could have been a co-worker or even a plant manager.
But as I think we all come to realized, today very few people want to take credit for doing the right thing of fear of reprisal.

This explains

Behind the investigative report on child labor allegations at Hyundai Alabama plant : NPR

Joe C. 07-26-2022 07:12 AM

So the kid's parents didn't know he/she was working there? I seriously doubt it. They probably arranged for them to work there.
Besides ....... every time you buy something and the label says "Made in China" it is extremely likely that it was made/assembled by an underage "worker" or even slave workers. Lots of items that go into automobiles and trucks come from China. Even the paint on the vehicle .... the pigments are Chinese.

WiscoGirl 07-26-2022 07:42 AM

You said ... "But as I think we all come to realized, today very few people want to take credit for doing the right thing of fear of reprisal" ...

Ok, to be fair, let's examine this statement: Very few people have done the right thing for fear of reprisal - for too long. It is NOT just today. DON'T LUMP THAT ON US! Please let me explain why my observations have lead me to believe WHY we're in this pickle. It's our own fault! We don't do the right thing. And we haven't for 3 generations of Americans.

IMHO this began when women & men turned their backs on their children. Whether it was inside her womb (the safest place a child should ever be) or out (when she left them in daycares and went to work) -- we haven't been doing the right thing for our children - our future.

Personal gain & selfishness have ruled since the great depression, a "what's in it for me" attitude, if you will. This began in the 1930s. Then, for nearly 50 years we did the absolute wrong thing! Men were footloose & fancy free. There was never a better time to be a man in the USA! White, black, red, yellow - it didn't matter. If you worked hard - man & woman could get ahead. And, men could turn his back on his woman & his child! All responsibility for children became a woman's responsibility. Man was a paycheck and the administration became daddy.


We made it too easy for woman to turn her back on her child. This placed the burden of sin on all of mankind because death in the womb became legal. The child in the womb became the slave. Only this time, it was to this their mother's whims.


But the time of evil is over once again!. Thank God We the People can get back to doing the right thing - for our children's sakes! God gave woman this moral obligation & man gave her the ability to destroy His Creation.

It's time for men to do the right thing again, too. It's time to be a moral people again. It's time to get back to our children. It's time to make women & children NUMBER ONE again! WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST!

... then, and only then, will we teach our children the right way. Then, and only then will our children see the value of human life. Then, and only then will they stop killing their classmates! It's time for US to do the right thing so our children will, too. It's time to do the right thing for the Common Good.

Ask yourself this: how could we ever expect our children to do the right thing when WE WEREN'T DOING THE RIGHT THING?

Adults must lead by example. We've nearly tipped past the point of no return! God is watching US & if we turn to Him & tell Him we were wrong & we do well by Him & His Creation - we will be ok. And parents won't want to send their child to Hyundai for a job. Don't blame them. Blame the chicken!

Ask yourself which came first - the chicken or the egg? The answer is - IN ALL CASES - the chicken! - it was the chicken who came first! Be good - do good - lead by example - and the children will follow.

Much love & peace & many blessings unto Us all from our Lord in heaven to you all ~

Wisco Girl

jebartle 07-26-2022 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2118771)
The sad part is, people will actually believe this article...

Hmmmmm! It's amazing how many LIES folks will believe! Yipsters!

mkjelenbaas 07-26-2022 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2118749)

A bit Mia leading - Hyundai does not employ - it as a company supplying parts - similar to Tennis shoes suppliers in China using young people to make Nike shoes

mkjelenbaas 07-26-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2118830)
I worked in grocery store for 60 cents hour in 1965.

And your point is??

l2ridehd 07-26-2022 08:40 AM

At least here something was done about it once discovered. 50% of overseas made cloths are done by children. Mining it's 60%. Batteries it's 60%. Pharmaceuticals it was above 60% and the list goes on. And most places the work day is 12 hours. It changes daily as corporations find cheaper places to move work and buy cheaper materials and the % of children working continues to go up.

Child labor is used most places we offshore work to because it's cheap and nobody seems to care. We are horrified to find it in Alabama but turn a blind eye to what is happening around the world. Somehow we need to hold accountable those companies that move work offshore to inspect and not allow anyone under a certain age to work. Globalization does work but we need to have better oversight with the implementation.

Michael G. 07-26-2022 08:43 AM

RELAX, your all wrong..... It's the shop supervisor's kids with summer jobs sweeping the floors and minor clean up,
trying to save money for college.

PurePeach 07-26-2022 08:48 AM

What a screaming racist remark! The one about Alabama.

Topspinmo 07-26-2022 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2118834)
Back when bread was 17 cents a loaf. A few things have changed.

Not child labor over the world.

OhioBuckeye 07-26-2022 08:57 AM

Who told you that you lived in China! Personally I don’t believe that & if you’re right, it would really PO a lot of people. Show us the proof?

Topspinmo 07-26-2022 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2119100)
And your point is??


Child labor which what OP article about. Agree It has changed here in USA. Lucky get child to clean there room let along do little work.

Chi-Town 07-26-2022 08:59 AM

Jerry Lee Lewis would think this is much ado about nothing.

https://youtu.be/zwbty1kRCG0

Topspinmo 07-26-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2119097)
A bit Mia leading - Hyundai does not employ - it as a company supplying parts - similar to Tennis shoes suppliers in China using young people to make Nike shoes

Not me, I never buy Nike. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

TeresaE 07-26-2022 09:04 AM

Quote: “The company said it relies on temporary work agencies to fill jobs and expects "these agencies to follow the law in recruiting, hiring, and placing workers on its premises.” I’m betting these children are part of the cleaning crew, an out sourced service. Probably in the plant after hours. I doubt that neither Plant management nor Hyundai Corporate knew what was going on. It was the subcontractor who broke the law. Now should the plant or Hyundai known? Maybe. That will no doubt come out during discovery in the forthcoming lawsuits.

TeresaE 07-26-2022 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2118791)
EDIT: Misunderstood/overlooked information in the article. Incorrect impression removed.


I do wonder how the SMART plant managers will explain the underage workers. Sure, they may rely on still other agencies to provide temporary workers but when the 13 year old walked through the door someone should have noticed.

Outsourced cleaning crew. They come in after hours

Topspinmo 07-26-2022 09:17 AM

Wonder if following laws apply to illegals? I see that question when right over Reuters heads. O wait, just labor laws. My mistake…:beer3:

oldtimes 07-26-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2119146)
Wonder if following laws apply to illegals? I see that question when right over Reuters heads. O wait, just labor laws. My mistake…:beer3:

Yes they were indeed migrants. So many problems here.

Siegfried 07-26-2022 11:19 AM

Did the "children" do it voluntarily?


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