Speed limit in the Villages
 

I never did understand the 20mph speed limit sign coming into the Villages from Wildwood on rt 466A, don't see anyone doing 20mph

Read the sign again!

What’s not to understand? Observing and understanding aren’t the same as complying.

Seeing this is 466A and Powell Rd. I know there is a 45 MPH speed limit sign somewhere relatively close to the posted sign.

I think this post is meant to be a funny.

The answer to your question is "unless otherwise posted" on the sign. 466A has a posted speed limit of 45 along most of it's length, dropping to as low as 30 in some spots.

The purpose of the sign is to inform everyone the speed limit in the villages is 20 MPH (UNLESS POSTED OTHERWISE), this avoids speed limit signs on every street in every neighborhood.

I agree with the OP. When I am driving around The Villages, it often doesn't seem to be very clear what the speed limit is on any particular road.

Well in that case, as the sign says, the speed limit is 20 mph. I don’t think it is that difficult to understand, is it?

I'm not sure. I think it means that the default speed limit in The Villages is 20 mph, unless there is another posted limit. But, I don't think that Rt 466A is actually in The Villages. I could be wrong, but I don't think the intention is for people to be driving at or below 20 mph on any section of Rt 466A. But, I can understand that the OP would think the speed limit on Rt 466A is 20 mph at that point. So, if the sign is actually located on Rt 466A, it should probably be moved to a roadway that is actually in The Villages

That sign is located adjacent to Pinellas Plaza which is in The Villages and is also Wildwood. The Southside of 466A is most definitely TV East of Powell Road. You can also see the 45 MPH speed limit sign behind the other one.

Thanks. But, it's a good thing that Barney Fife is dead. I can see him stopping someone and giving them a ticket for going 25 miles over the speed limit between those signs.

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The sign isn't an "instruction." It is a "for your information."

It's not ordering you to slow down on THAT road, immediately, until you see another sign saying otherwise.

What it's telling you, is that "by the way - IF you are driving IN the Villages, THEN the speed limit will be 20mph - unless you pass a sign that specifies otherwise."

In my area the speed limit is 25, except near the rec center, where the sign specifies it's 15. Most people abide by the 25MPH in our area. But most people don't slow down at the 15MPH sign, they just keep blowing past the postal station, fire dept, and rec center at 25.

Some, (Duh?) moments so far on this thread.

Golf carts go more than 20mph?

Can—- go more than 20 MPH (that don’t mean they have to). My car can go more than any speed limit.

Speed limit in my villa 10 MPH only walkers go less than 10 MPH. Even joggers exceed 10 MPH speed limit.

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i personally have no problems with village drivers. They are the most thoughtful and courteous drivers i have had the honor and privilege to drive alongside.

If you need to explain a road sign, then something is wrong. The sign would be more appropriately located on Pinellas Place, where you are actually entering a residential area and not driving on a 45 mph throughway.

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me either

And this is why you must drive around The Villages with eyes in the back of your head. The number of people who can't read a road sign, don't know the rules of the road and can't even figure out who has the right of way is staggering!

My new cart doesn’t but I’m working on it. 🤔

The sign says “unless otherwise posted.” There are 45 MPH signs posted in some places along 466A in The Villages. That’s why people are not doing 20 MPH most likely.

A lotta verbiage regarding what the sign says or means.....when almost nobody does the speed limit anywhere in TV.

When we first moved here (18 years ago!) there used to be speed traps on major roads. As the years have gone by the only conclusion one can reach, based on actual road experience......there is no speed limit.....and there is no enforcement.

Let the sign debate continue!!!

They've all said it, it's a memo marker in case you don't know then that's the speed.... However that speed limit is typically reserved for school zones and requires a special study and approval to get for residential areas. I went though this in my old HOA and found that we just can't post that, we first have to go through a study, review the results, determine if going that drastic is truly necessary, how it will be enforced, and much more.. In fact the 2 times board members went for it they were denied both times as the initial review said it's far too slow they would only approve 25 as the minimum we could post.

just a tidbit of additional info is all, no need for more flames on this fire.

At one point in time, 466A was the end of the southern Villages. With the development south of 466A, from where I sit, that makes sections of 466A smack dab in the middle of The Villages.

Once upon a time, while Lake Sumter Landing was under construction, during lease negotiations it was stated, along with map on the wall.....that LSL would be the hub location of TV (which we all know now is/was the Morse plan before passing).

We personally still look at it that way.

You can't be given a speeding ticket in Florida unless you are doing in excess of 5 MPH over the posted limit. So the 20MPH is a moot point.
Speed limits are enforceable only if you get caught, and there aren't enough LEO'S to monitor traffic 24/7.
I'm content to do the speed limit or 5 over. But I believe that posted speed limits are designed for the dumbest drivers.

And are breaking the law.

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Sorry but you can in a golf cart. Neighbor across the street got one on Stillwater.
And it's a felony...
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I have seen many drivers in cars, trucks, and golf cars going about 20 mph in residential neighborhoods with narrow streets and blind curves. I have also seen on the same roads, drivers going 40 to 50 mph. Often they are the trucks of landscapers and lawn mowers.

What’s to understand.

When we moved to TV 10 years ago a friend who had moved here 3 or 4 years prior gave me some tips on TV speed limits.

If a street has rotaries and a separated multi-modal / cart path (Morse Road and Buena Vista Blvd.) the speed limit is 35-mph dropping to 20-mph through the rotaries. If the street has a painted white stripe denoting a cart lane, the limit is 30-mph. These are normally major streets inside the neighborhood gates. These basic recommendations seem to be reliable, with one exception that comes to mind is Rio Grande. There the limit drops to 25 on the east section where I think you enter Lady Lake/Lake County. This is clearly marked. I am sure there are others. This also seems to explain the 30-mph speed limit on Morse Road north of 466.

Now can someone explain to me why the east/west county roads have a 45-mph limit while the north/south roads are limited to 35-mph. (A pattern or coincidence?) Example is Micro Racetrack to Lake Ella (35mph), Lake Ella East (45 mph) and Micro Racetrack north to 27/441 (35 mph).

He also explained the details of a ticket for exceeding 20-mph in a golf cart. This can happen if your cart is not registered and licensed. The ticket you receive is not for speeding. It is for operating an unlicensed vehicle on a public street. It is my understanding that the ticket is considerably more costly than a speeding ticket. No explanation for if/how the 5-mph margin applies.

The statement/fact/rumor that it is a "felony" has been here longer than I. I'd love to see the actual Florida statute that states this. I find it hard to believe that not only driving a golf cart at 20.1 mph but simply owning one capable of going 20.1 mph (on a public road) ranks up there with robbing a bank or carjacking or assault with a deadly weapon. (Yes, I realize there are different degrees of felonies). Can anyone imagine a "trial" where a judge sentences an 85 year old great grandmother to over 1 year in state prison for driving an "unregistered" golf cart???? She could share a cell with a mass murderer for her "felony"

Actually, it didn't take long to find the answer (and dispel the "felony" rumor):

According to Florida statute 320.02;

"Penalties for Unregistered Motor Vehicle Charges
Late registration with a fee will help you avoid criminal charges, but if you are cited for driving without a valid registration, the penalties can be severe. Failing to register your vehicle in the state of Florida while you have resided here for over 6 months will result in a misdemeanor charge of the second-degree, punishable by any combination of the following:

Up to sixty (60) days of jail time;
Up to six (6) months of probation or community control; and
Up to five hundred dollars ($500) in fines.
Penalties can vary depending on the length of the lapse in registration."

So much for the "felony" charge and the 8+ year unfounded rumors.

It is not just in the Villages. The primary control on a car, a bike, a golf cart is your brain. For too many they think it is the gas peddle. The landscapers. How many have a drivers license, insurance? Some of those trailers are way to wide for the streets. Seems they would should
require special insurance etc for a WIDE LOAD.

County Road speed limits East/ West vs North/South
 

It's a coincidence not a pattern regarding speed limits on East/West vs North/South. Some
are County Roads that span more than one County example CR 100 (Cherry Lake Road) runs
South from CR 466 to Lake Ella Rd. The road starts in Lake County and speed limit is posted as 35 mph it then crosses into Sumter County and the posted limit increases to 45.
The CR 466A posted speed limit is 45 going East until you approach Fruitland Park and it changes to 35 until it ends at 441.

There also are no patterns within the gated sections of the Villages regarding speed limits. Many of the roads north of 466 that have dedicated MM lanes have a posted speed limit of 25 mph while similar roads south of 466 it's 30 mph. The purpose of the signs leading into the Villages is to remind drivers that once they are in the Villages if they are on a road without a
speed limit sign then the maximum speed is 20 mph. Many areas in the Marion County section have posted speed limits of 15 mph.

Perhaps a better use of police time would be to catch the people stealing golf carts.
Or robbing stores and people.
Or DWI drivers.
Or catching roofers that fraudulently rip off insurance companies.

Crimes that have a real impact on everyone's quality of life.

Speed limits in the Villages are a joke. Went from 466 to Savanna Center on Buena Vista driving at 35mph posted speed limit. Was passed by 15 cars (most doing very much over 35mph). Did pass 1 car going less than 35. Everyone knows there is little speed enforcement in the Villages so they increase their speed to keep up with the flow. Human nature at it's best. Why no speed enforcement?