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Burgy 08-02-2022 10:32 AM

Indépendant Voter?
 
The newspaper says you do not have to be registered with a political party to vote in the upcoming primary. Is this new/

DAVES 08-02-2022 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgy (Post 2121668)
The newspaper says you do not have to be registered with a political party to vote in the upcoming primary. Is this new/

I would contact League of Women's voters or perhaps your representative's office. I would be surprised if that is true.

Bill14564 08-02-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgy (Post 2121668)
The newspaper says you do not have to be registered with a political party to vote in the upcoming primary. Is this new/

Because there are races with only one political party participating. I think they call it a Universal Primary.

Go to the Sumter County Elections page, verify your registration, and look for a link to see your sample ballot. At he very least you should see the lines for commissioners.

kansasr 08-02-2022 12:40 PM

This doesn't happen often. Usually one party will run a sham write-in candidate, so that the primary is closed to only registered voters in that party. That did not happen in the county commission races, so, since there are only candidates from one party, and whoever wins that primary will automatically win the election, then all registered voters can vote in these races.

Keefelane66 08-02-2022 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Burgy (Post 2121668)
The newspaper says you do not have to be registered with a political party to vote in the upcoming primary. Is this new/

Closed Primary Election
Florida is a closed primary election state. Only voters who are registered members of political parties may vote for respective party candidates.
I have no faith in The Daily Sun!

twoplanekid 08-02-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2121741)
Closed Primary Election
Florida is a closed primary election state. Only voters who are registered members of political parties may vote for respective party candidates.
I have no faith in The Daily Sun!

From the Sumter County website under voter guide on page 26 -> Voter Guide

Closed Primary Election
Florida is a closed primary election state. Only voters who are registered with a political
party may vote for respective party candidates or nominees for an office in a primary election,
including a presidential preference primary election.
However, there are times when all registered voters can vote in a primary election, regardless
of which major or minor political party they are registered or even if they are registered without
party affiliation:

If all the candidates for an office have the same party affiliation and the winner of the
primary election will not face any opposition in the general election, then all registered
voters can vote for any of the candidates for that office in the primary election.

• If races for nonpartisan judicial and school board offices, nonpartisan special districts or
local referendum questions are on the primary election ballot, then all registered voters,
including those without party affiliation are entitled to vote those races on the ballot.
At a general election, all voters receive the same ballot and may vote for any candidate or
question on the ballot regardless of party affiliation.

MartinSE 08-02-2022 08:57 PM

The answer has been given. But, we are seeing a trend in other primaries around the country of people switching parties to vote in the opposing parties primary as spoilers - voting for someone they think can not win against their real candidate in the general election. It has caused a lot of indigestion with the talking heads trying to predict what is going to happen in the upcoming election.

If you want to do that, as far as I know it is not illegal. Just beside to switch back in time to vote for real...

villageuser 08-03-2022 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2121855)

If you want to do that, as far as I know it is not illegal. Just beside to switch back in time to vote for real...

One doesn’t have to change back for the general election, what I am presuming you’re calling “vote for real”. One can vote for whatever candidate they feel like at that point. I’m going to presume all they have to do is change parties anytime they feel like voting a different party on the primary. I wish shenanigans like this wouldn’t happen, though.

PugMom 08-03-2022 05:30 AM

i'm happy i can vote! i prefer to stay independent due to the fact i have not much in common with either side anymore. very good news :0000000000luvmyhors

mlmarr 08-03-2022 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgy (Post 2121668)
The newspaper says you do not have to be registered with a political party to vote in the upcoming primary. Is this new/

no its Florida .. i register as conservative/republican to be able to vote in the primary's

allsport 08-03-2022 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2121741)
Closed Primary Election
Florida is a closed primary election state. Only voters who are registered members of political parties may vote for respective party candidates.
I have no faith in The Daily Sun!

Not true when one party's candidates are running unopposed, it is then universal and everyone can vote for only those candidates. I am the opposite party and my ballot had the commissioners on it and I have already voted and taken it to the Voting Office.

Johnsocat 08-03-2022 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2121855)
The answer has been given. But, we are seeing a trend in other primaries around the country of people switching parties to vote in the opposing parties primary as spoilers - voting for someone they think can not win against their real candidate in the general election. It has caused a lot of indigestion with the talking heads trying to predict what is going to happen in the upcoming election.

If you want to do that, as far as I know it is not illegal. Just beside to switch back in time to vote for real...

Seems dishonest to register yourself into a party you don't support in order to have a vote in that party's candidate selection. Especially with the intent to select a candidate you think will lose against your party's candidate when you re-register with your party for the "vote for real" vote.
Just because there's no rule or law against this does not make it right. In my opinion it is dishonest and a form of cheating/sabotage. There is a reason why the primaries limit the voting to the voters in the parties.
I have zero respect for people who present themselves as someone/something they are not.

jimmy o 08-03-2022 07:16 AM

What newspaper was this? I did not read that in The Daily Sun, or POA. In any event not true.

TheWarriors 08-03-2022 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2121855)
The answer has been given. But, we are seeing a trend in other primaries around the country of people switching parties to vote in the opposing parties primary as spoilers - voting for someone they think can not win against their real candidate in the general election. It has caused a lot of indigestion with the talking heads trying to predict what is going to happen in the upcoming election.

If you want to do that, as far as I know it is not illegal. Just beside to switch back in time to vote for real...

Almost sounds like your endorsing it and your last comment leads me to believe you don’t mind voting irregularities like we’ve seen lately.

paulajr 08-03-2022 07:29 AM

Wrong info
 
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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2121741)
Closed Primary Election
Florida is a closed primary election state. Only voters who are registered members of political parties may vote for respective party candidates.
I have no faith in The Daily Sun!

There is a ballot for “independent “ voters this year, as all candidates for one office are of the same party. Please do not spread incorrect information.

paulajr 08-03-2022 07:31 AM

Yes
 
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Originally Posted by jimmy o (Post 2121967)
What newspaper was this? I did not read that in The Daily Sun, or POA. In any event not true.

It IS true. Please go to elections office webpage to confirm. I am working the polls and have been trained for the upcoming primary.

Villages Kahuna 08-03-2022 07:39 AM

You can register as an Independent, but in primary elections you can only vote for candidates who are not affiliated with either political party.

You can vote for any of the candidates running for office in the General Election in November, of course.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-03-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2121984)
You can register as an Independent, but in primary elections you can only vote for candidates who are not affiliated with either political party.

You can vote for any of the candidates running for office in the General Election in November, of course.

If the candidates are running in one party, and there is no opposition in the other party, then anyone can vote in that singular primary.

In other words - if there is only a Republican primary, and there won't be a Democratic Primary in that season, then any registered voter can vote in the Republican one.

As specified up-thread, from the Sumter County voting page:

"However, there are times when all registered voters can vote in a primary election, regardless
of which major or minor political party they are registered or even if they are registered without
party affiliation:
• If all the candidates for an office have the same party affiliation and the winner of the
primary election will not face any opposition in the general election, then all registered
voters can vote for any of the candidates for that office in the primary election."

Bogie Shooter 08-03-2022 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2121741)
Closed Primary Election
Florida is a closed primary election state. Only voters who are registered members of political parties may vote for respective party candidates.
I have no faith in The Daily Sun!

Independent voters were able to vote for Republican county commissioners. Faith in daily sun has nothing to do with it.

Bogie Shooter 08-03-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mlmarr (Post 2121926)
no its Florida .. i register as conservative/republican to be able to vote in the primary's

Are there other kinds of Republican ?

Brynnie 08-03-2022 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy o (Post 2121967)
What newspaper was this? I did not read that in The Daily Sun, or POA. In any event not true.

It's in the POA Bulletin, front page.

Blueblaze 08-03-2022 01:44 PM

I've got a better question -- why are so-called "non-partizan" offices on a primary ballot?

I started doing research on the county judges and school board seats on my sample Marion County ballot and discovered that these were declared "non-partizan". When I researched the candidates, I discovered that the ones on the ballot were the only people running, and their campaign pages carefully avoided anything that would give a hint to their values.

This is my first time voting in Florida. I don't get it. What happens in the general, if everyone has already voted on these people in the Primary? And why wouldn't you want to know the political persuasion of your judges and school board members?

And here's something even weirder -- there were no state senators or congressmen on the ballot. What's up with that?

Bill14564 08-03-2022 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2122155)
I've got a better question -- why are so-called "non-partizan" offices on a primary ballot?

I started doing research on the county judges and school board seats on my sample Marion County ballot and discovered that these were declared "non-partizan". When I researched the candidates, I discovered that the ones on the ballot were the only people running, and their campaign pages carefully avoided anything that would give a hint to their values.

This is my first time voting in Florida. I don't get it. What happens in the general, if everyone has already voted on these people in the Primary? And why wouldn't you want to know the political persuasion of your judges and school board members?

And here's something even weirder -- there were no state senators or congressmen on the ballot. What's up with that?

You are registered Independent or possibly as a Republican. Since there will be candidates from both parties on the ballot in November, Independent voters do not get to vote on these positions in the August primary.

If you registered Republican then there may not be anyone running against the incumbent and so there would be no need to put these offices on the primary ballot.

The sample ballots for Democrats, Republicans, and Independents (no party) will all look different.

AZ SLIM 08-04-2022 02:18 AM

According to Pew the majority of independents lean toward one of the two major parties. Sometimes I wonder what advantage they have over those voters who are registered to a party.
A deeper question is about what the media calls "undecided" voters. If a voter really can't tell the difference between the values and objectives of republicans vs those of democrats, is that person informed enough to even be voting?

HospitalCoder 08-04-2022 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AZ SLIM (Post 2122294)
According to Pew the majority of independents lean toward one of the two major parties. Sometimes I wonder what advantage they have over those voters who are registered to a party.
A deeper question is about what the media calls "undecided" voters. If a voter really can't tell the difference between the values and objectives of republicans vs those of democrats, is that person informed enough to even be voting?

Undecided can be for many reasons. One example is you have always voted for one political party but don’t like the candidate this time around, maybe even hate him with every fiber of your being. So then you might be undecided. Another example is not liking either party so trying to decide who is the least objectionable.

Voting for “values and objectives” can find us with a horrible,vile person in office which kind of puts a hole in the whole “values” thing.

Blueblaze 08-04-2022 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2122177)
You are registered Independent or possibly as a Republican. Since there will be candidates from both parties on the ballot in November, Independent voters do not get to vote on these positions in the August primary.

If you registered Republican then there may not be anyone running against the incumbent and so there would be no need to put these offices on the primary ballot.

The sample ballots for Democrats, Republicans, and Independents (no party) will all look different.

There were three people running in all the judge and school board races I mentioned. I still don't understand why they are on a Republican primary ballot if they aren't running as republicans.

And are you kidding me? You're saying there are Dems are running unopposed for the state house and senate? Wow.

Bill14564 08-04-2022 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2122535)
There were three people running in all the judge and school board races I mentioned. I still don't understand why they are on a Republican primary ballot if they aren't running as republicans.

And are you kidding me? You're saying there are Dems are running unopposed for the state house and senate? Wow.

Judges and school boards are nonpartisan so they will be on every ballot.

Sumter County Commissioner candidates are all Republican. The winner of the primary will be the only name on the ballot in November. Effectively, for these positions, the August primary is the entire election. Therefore, these will be on every ballot.

If you are seeing DEM on the ballot for Senate, Governor, Attorney General, and Commissioner of Agriculture then you must be looking at a Democratic Party ballot.

OH! I think I understand what you are saying. If there is only one Republican candidate for a position, say DeSantis for Governor, then I don't know if the single name would be listed on the ballot. It wouldn't mean that only Democrats are running for the position, it would mean that there is only one Republican running for the position so there is no need to choose him/her in the primary. But I don't know, I can't see the Republican primary ballot.


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