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sounding 08-25-2022 05:32 AM

Where did the hurricanes go
 
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

MartinSE 08-25-2022 06:40 AM

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It's not even worth responding.

RICH1 08-25-2022 07:05 AM

Well said MartinSE

JMintzer 08-25-2022 08:33 AM

There's this thing called "weather"... It changes from year to year...

Some years there are a lot of hurricanes (most of which flounder around in the Atlantic Ocean until they dissipate)...

Other years, several of them make landfall and many think the sky is falling...

This year happens to be a lull...

walterray1 08-25-2022 08:40 AM

Don't jinx us.

sounding 08-25-2022 09:07 AM

Don't worry, "jinx" does not control our climate -- the sun does. The data clearly shows that.

LuvNH 08-25-2022 10:18 AM

It's not too late. Sseason is through September and maybe longer now.

sounding 08-25-2022 10:39 AM

Even though hurricanes can occur any month of the year, the official season is from June 1 through November 30. It's also interesting to note that for the last 6 years, the global "surface & ocean" temperature linear trend is down -- slight cooling -- as taken from NOAA data.

Bogie Shooter 08-25-2022 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129606)
Even though hurricanes can occur any month of the year, the official season is from June 1 through November 30. It's also interesting to note that for the last 6 years, the global "surface & ocean" temperature linear trend is down -- slight cooling -- as taken from NOAA data.

Melting ice……

sounding 08-25-2022 12:15 PM

Yes, some is melting while others are growing, especially the ones the media ignores -- such as the Petermann glacier for one -- which is all discussed in the Village Weather Club. But more importantly, for the various solar generated heating cycles, there is a "lag" affect -- from months to years to centuries -- depending on the length of the solar cycle studied. The current "melting" is because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age -- plus the fish are liking it because they have more space to live in.

Tvflguy 08-25-2022 12:24 PM

If we had 4 hurricanes so far this season — or NONE some would yell out Climate Change!!! Can’t win.

MartinSE 08-25-2022 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2129648)
If we had 4 hurricanes so far this season — or NONE some would yell out Climate Change!!! Can’t win.

If it hits 110F in Florida this summer, someone will yell out Summer! Can't win.

Keefelane66 08-25-2022 05:47 PM

Climate denial is not a river in Egypt

Woodbear 08-26-2022 12:17 AM

I am all for climate change that includes less hurricanes. Guess I will hold off on my coal burning lithium mining car for now. Time to go fill up the truck.

asianthree 08-26-2022 02:16 AM

Lighting seems to be a bigger problem this year. Bonus with no hurricane, the food banks will be happy this year, with all the kits that will need to be donated :D.

Dlbonivich 08-26-2022 04:49 AM

Saharan Dust
 
If you read a little about this year’s weather you would know that the Saharan Dust Storm is what is keeping the tropical patterns from forming this year.

Worldseries27 08-26-2022 05:42 AM

Yep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walterray1 (Post 2129545)
don't jinx us.

agreed. Sounds like he misses them

Worldseries27 08-26-2022 05:46 AM

Bingo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dlbonivich (Post 2129864)
if you read a little about this year’s weather you would know that the saharan dust storm is what is keeping the tropical patterns from forming this year.

every time i see an african animal documentary and i see the panting animals i envision the hurricanes that will be formed by the african heat

crash 08-26-2022 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

I think the people in the Midwest with flooding and west with drought would have a different opinion. You are talking weather not climate.

me4vt 08-26-2022 06:16 AM

So you had to open your mouth Right!!!!!!!

me4vt 08-26-2022 06:19 AM

November 30th is the END of hurricane season!

sounding 08-26-2022 06:27 AM

That is only a particle factor. The only reason the media mentions this is because to mention the other reasons blows a hole in the man-made global warming hoax. These reasons are periodically discussed in the Weather Club -- including unusually strong and broad trade winds -- which forced the ITCZ farther south where storms can't form because lack of Coriolis Force. This wind shift pattern change is being driven by a changing polar vortex which is giving Greenland record snowfalls. The ENSO and PDO are getting colder than forecast -- and the AMO is just starting to cool. Bottom line -- no one can forecast long term weather or climate because we barely understand what is going on now -- and CO2 is plant food.

Larchap49 08-26-2022 06:38 AM

Hurricanes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

Not CO2 it is the sands blowing off the Sahara lowering the moisture content of the air coming off the African coast. Affecting weather world wide.

FredJacobs 08-26-2022 06:45 AM

Most people might say that you are inviting the "evil eye." The worst of the hurricane season is yet to come - the peak is somewhere around September 10th.

sounding 08-26-2022 06:50 AM

An "evil eye" has no scientific meaning. Data, however, does ... the data shows that the earth has been in a slow cooling trend for the past 6 years.

sounding 08-26-2022 06:54 AM

Everyone only knows to blame the dust because that's all the media will reveal -- including the Weather Channel. The big question is ... why so much dust for such a long time -- and I already mentioned the other factors involved. You always have to ask "why" something is happening -- and not just stop at the dust. Note, the "dust" did not push the ITCZ farther south and it does not affect the cooling ENSO and PDO cycles -- the SUN does that.

GmaLisaG 08-26-2022 07:07 AM

Historically most CAT 4-5 were I. September

Bogie Shooter 08-26-2022 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129907)
That is only a particle factor. The only reason the media mentions this is because to mention the other reasons blows a hole in the man-made global warming hoax. These reasons are periodically discussed in the Weather Club -- including unusually strong and broad trade winds -- which forced the ITCZ farther south where storms can't form because lack of Coriolis Force. This wind shift pattern change is being driven by a changing polar vortex which is giving Greenland record snowfalls. The ENSO and PDO are getting colder than forecast -- and the AMO is just starting to cool. Bottom line -- no one can forecast long term weather or climate because we barely understand what is going on now -- and CO2 is plant food.

:what:

AZ SLIM 08-26-2022 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129932)
Everyone only knows to blame the dust because that's all the media will reveal -- including the Weather Channel. The big question is ... why so much dust for such a long time -- and I already mentioned the other factors involved. You always have to ask "why" something is happening -- and not just stop at the dust. Note, the "dust" did not push the ITCZ farther south and it does not affect the cooling ENSO and PDO cycles -- the SUN does that.

What bugs me the most about this is the arrogance of our so called "Government Experts". I kept a newspaper article from a few months ago where they predicted an above average season. Then another article a few days ago where they tried to explain why there have been no hurricanes yet, but still going to be an above average season. They claim to be good at predicting seasonal weather, but why did they miss the prediction of the sandstorms along with sea temperature? Another example of government incompetent predictions and guidelines over the last few years. Why should anyone listen to anything the gov't "experts" say any longer? I worked for the feds for 30 years in a land management agency. Their decisions are rarely correct. Look at the huge wildfires now days. Totally a result of government bad predictions and decisions for 100 years.

Joe C. 08-26-2022 07:29 AM

Climate change has been around since the earth was created. Remember the Ice Age when half of the northern hemisphere was covered in mile deep ice? I hardly think that man was responsible. It's only in today's world where the "experts" have their say in the media, that it's become politicized. The powers that be always need to give the masses something to fear, resulting in their demands for what they feel is "security". When I was a kid, it was always the nuclear holocaust hanging over our heads. Then it was insecticides and agricultural chemicals that was going to hurt us (remember Alar in the late 60's). Now it's 'climate change", previously termed "global warming". Al Gore is still around, putting the screws to us.

carlsondg 08-26-2022 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

let's blame global warming - or is it global cooling - I forget

jammaiora 08-26-2022 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

Hey "Know it All", how long have you lived in Florida? In September, 2017 The Villages got hit with a hurricane. September and October are the height of hurricanes for Florida. In addition, all weather patterns have drastically changed because of CLIMATE CHANGE/GLOBAL WARMING. Don't you look at global news on weather and the drought throughout the world, not to mention the flooding in cities and towns in areas of the US. You must be inhaling too much of your car's exhaust!

The Chipster 08-26-2022 08:09 AM

Great, another ignorant, head-in-the-sand, climate change denier. What happened to our appreciation of hard science in this country?

jrandall 08-26-2022 08:10 AM

Not So Fast
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

Hurricane Andrew happened 30 years ago this week. It was the first hurricane of the season and devastating to South Florida. So this isn’t the first time in 30 years we have not had a Hurricane. As of this reply we have two waves coming from Africa right now.

Dgodin 08-26-2022 08:16 AM

Just be glad we've had a quiet season so far. Florida insurance companies and homeowners may not be able to withstand a bad season considering the issues Insurers are having here.

mlmarr 08-26-2022 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

give it time..weather warfare has plenty of time to cook one up.. watch the east .

airstreamingypsy 08-26-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2129461)
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It's not even worth responding.

It is mind boggling though.

Chuckndianne 08-26-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2129648)
If we had 4 hurricanes so far this season — or NONE some would yell out Climate Change!!! Can’t win.

And those 4 were in the Pacific. Zero in the Atlantic.

rsimpson 08-26-2022 09:54 AM

Global Warming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

They only discuss 'weather events' when it helps THEIR Narrative. "crickets...."

Two Bills 08-26-2022 10:03 AM

.........and all of us will be long gone before the right answer is known!
So why worry?


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