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Dulcimer 08-28-2022 10:29 AM

Bernedoodles
 
I saw there was a post on Nextdoor about Bernedoodles. We are on the waitlist with the breeders in Summerfield, for sometime in February. It would be great to get a group going. Sounds like we will have our hands full for a while!

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-28-2022 09:16 PM

With all the amazing mixed breed and even full breed dogs available at pet rescue centers and the local shelters, why would anyone want to wait for an intentionally-mixed-breed dog? Especially one that requires a couple of HOURS of walking every day, and has expensive grooming needs.

tophcfa 08-28-2022 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2130876)
With all the amazing mixed breed and even full breed dogs available at pet rescue centers and the local shelters, why would anyone want to wait for an intentionally-mixed-breed dog? Especially one that requires a couple of HOURS of walking every day, and has expensive grooming needs.

The dog world has gone crazy with the doodle thing, just about everything is getting cross breed with poodles. People either seem to be too lazy to deal with a dog that sheds hair or claim to be allergic to any type of shedding dog. Many people these days seem to want a dog that is supposed to be hypoallergenic, needs haircuts instead of daily brushing, and doesn’t shed.

Djean1981 08-29-2022 06:16 AM

Adopt, don't shop...

Chi-Town 08-29-2022 07:09 AM

Poodles are very smart. The miniatures and standards enhance the other breeds' traits. The first ones I remember were the Snoodles and Cockapoos. Then the standards came into play with the Goldendoodles and Labradoodles. Probably won't be too long before we see a Pitboodle.

JMintzer 08-29-2022 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2130880)
The dog world has gone crazy with the doodle thing, just about everything is getting cross breed with poodles. People either seem to be too lazy to deal with a dog that sheds hair or claim to be allergic to any type of shedding dog. Many people these days seem to want a dog that is supposed to be hypoallergenic, needs haircuts instead of daily brushing, and doesn’t shed.

I don't "claim" to be allergic to certain dogs, I "AM" allergic to certain dogs.

I was at a friends for dinner, years ago. He had a couple of black labs. Wonderful dogs. Half way thru dinner, my wife had to take me to urgent care, as my throat was closing up... An no, it wasn't a food allergy...

I would love a golden retriever, but not enough to need to carry an epi-pen...

When my daughter had a cat (it was her roommate's), I could last about 15 minutes in her apartment, before the itching and tearing in my eyes and the sneezing fits started...

JMintzer 08-29-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 2130924)
Poodles are very smart. The miniatures and standards enhance the other breeds' traits. The first ones I remember were the Snoodles and Cockapoos. Then the standards came into play with the Goldendoodles and Labradoodles. Probably won't be too long before we see a Pitboodle.

We have a Schnoodle. It's our 2nd one. Sadly our first darted after a squirrel and was hit by a car... :cryin2:

She's incredibly smart, and once you "mutt up" a pure bred, most of the health issues disappear...

Plus, I have ZERO allergy issues with her...

PugMom 08-29-2022 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 2130924)
Poodles are very smart. The miniatures and standards enhance the other breeds' traits. The first ones I remember were the Snoodles and Cockapoos. Then the standards came into play with the Goldendoodles and Labradoodles. Probably won't be too long before we see a Pitboodle.

:1rotfl::BigApplause: good one!

Dulcimer 08-29-2022 10:49 AM

Hopefully everyone got the negative comments off their back. Now to my original post…any Bernedoodles owners wish to share time, experience, etc together?

queenpalmgirl 08-29-2022 12:43 PM

Bernedoodle
 
Don't have a Bernedoodle yet but plan to get one. We will be on a wait list too from a breeder in Illinois.

ThirdOfFive 08-29-2022 01:18 PM

Is it about the dog, or the cute name?

Michael G. 08-29-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2131128)
Is it about the dog, or the cute name?

Price.
Some people just aren't satisfied until they pay $1400.00.

Mary Kay 08-29-2022 01:47 PM

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RICH1 08-29-2022 01:51 PM

Those things cost as much as my Homeowners Insurance….

JSR22 08-29-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2131135)
Price.
Some people just aren't satisfied until they pay $1400.00.

Most likley over $2500. The average person looking for a dog does not realize an ethical breeder genetically tests the Sire and Dam before breeding them. The big problem is if you have a Poodle that is genetically tested and meets conformation standards you would not breed with a non Poodle. The majority of the doodles come from the Amish, backyard breeders or puppy mills. Ethical breeders do not mix breeds.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-29-2022 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2131143)
Most likley over $2500. The average person looking for a dog does not realize an ethical breeder genetically tests the Sire and Dam before breeding them. The big problem is if you have a Poodle that is genetically tested and meets conformation standards you would not breed with a non Poodle. The majority of the doodles come from the Amish, backyard breeders or puppy mills. Ethical breeders do not mix breeds.

"Ethical pet breeders" is an oxymoron.

JSR22 08-29-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2131156)
"Ethical pet breeders" is an oxymoron.

There are very ethical dog breeders, and I know many of them. I owned a dog related business.

asianthree 08-29-2022 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2131135)
Price.
Some people just aren't satisfied until they pay $1400.00.

Frenchies start at $5,000, that may or may not have health issues. $10,000 isn’t out of the spectrum of cost. Our middle child does bulldog and Frenchie rescue, all are either abused, over breed, sometimes close to death. All vet bills are her nickel, sometimes into the thousands per dog.

Yep she is truly a adopt only, she just got a call to pick up 3 berniedoodles, all very sick, and may or may not make it. Hand feeding every 1-2 hours. Came from a back room breeder. Cute as hell, we may adopt one if we are picked, but our age comes into their adoption guidelines

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-29-2022 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2131159)
There are very ethical dog breeders, and I know many of them. I owned a dog related business.

It's an oxymoron because to me, personally, "breeding" ANY pets, while there are millions of rescues looking for homes, is unethical. In my opinion, personally.

In my opinion - if you can't stand the idea of getting shedded fur on the carpeting, then don't get a pet. If your priority is carpet first, pet second, then you shouldn't get a pet.

If you're allergic to dog fur, then either get a non-allergenic one at the pound, or choose a different species of pet.

As long as there are millions of dogs and cats that are rescued, abandoned, unwanted, neglected, there should be no need to "breed" pet dogs.

JSR22 08-29-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2131193)
It's an oxymoron because to me, personally, "breeding" ANY pets, while there are millions of rescues looking for homes, is unethical. In my opinion, personally.

In my opinion - if you can't stand the idea of getting shedded fur on the carpeting, then don't get a pet. If your priority is carpet first, pet second, then you shouldn't get a pet.

If you're allergic to dog fur, then either get a non-allergenic one at the pound, or choose a different species of pet.

As long as there are millions of dogs and cats that are rescued, abandoned, unwanted, neglected, there should be no need to "breed" pet dogs.

If they stopped breeding many breeds would become extinct. The shelters are full of pit bulls and pit mixes. Most are not ideal as a pet for children. If somebody wants a dog for their family they need the option for a good match. Many of the dogs at the shelters have bitten people and dogs. The previous owner never admits that. A friend of mines 11 year old daughter was severely bit in the face from a Rottweiler where the previous owner had dropped the dog at the shelter stating a member of the family was allergic.

Michael G. 08-29-2022 04:04 PM

A little of topic but what's to like about pit bulls?
When they bite, they lock their jaw shut like Florida alligators.

And the owners always insure you: "Don't worry, he wouldn't bite".

JSR22 08-29-2022 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2131209)
A little of topic but what's to like about pit bulls?
When they bite, they lock their jaw shut like Florida alligators.

And the owners always insure you: "Don't worry, he wouldn't bite".

I have been around some very nice Pits. Actually, I owned ad Dog Camp in VT where you went on vacation with your dog. We had several cases of dogs biting, chihuahuas and jack russell terriers. Never a Pit.

JMintzer 08-29-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2131193)
It's an oxymoron because to me, personally, "breeding" ANY pets, while there are millions of rescues looking for homes, is unethical. In my opinion, personally.

In my opinion - if you can't stand the idea of getting shedded fur on the carpeting, then don't get a pet. If your priority is carpet first, pet second, then you shouldn't get a pet.

If you're allergic to dog fur, then either get a non-allergenic one at the pound, or choose a different species of pet.

As long as there are millions of dogs and cats that are rescued, abandoned, unwanted, neglected, there should be no need to "breed" pet dogs.

Getting a hypo-allergenic dog at the pound proved impossible (in my case)...

Hence we purchased outs. Neither one was anywhere near the prices people are claiming here...

Djean1981 08-29-2022 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2131156)
"Ethical pet breeders" is an oxymoron.

Yeah, breeding animals for $$..

Djean1981 08-29-2022 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2131234)
Getting a hypo-allergenic dog at the pound proved impossible (in my case)...

Hence we purchased outs. Neither one was anywhere near the prices people are claiming here...

We adopted/rescued a WinniePoo from a street corner. The best fur baby ever. :)

JMintzer 08-29-2022 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Djean1981 (Post 2131241)
We adopted/rescued a WinniePoo from a street corner. The best fur baby ever. :)

You found a unicorn! Congrats!

Chi-Town 08-29-2022 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2131031)
We have a Schnoodle. It's our 2nd one. Sadly our first darted after a squirrel and was hit by a car... :cryin2:

She's incredibly smart, and once you "mutt up" a pure bred, most of the health issues disappear...

Plus, I have ZERO allergy issues with her...

I also had one. The best dog I ever could imagine. She broke the mold; never could or try to replace her.

jebartle 12-25-2022 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dulcimer (Post 2130689)
I saw there was a post on Nextdoor about Bernedoodles. We are on the waitlist with the breeders in Summerfield, for sometime in February. It would be great to get a group going. Sounds like we will have our hands full for a while!

Just saw one on Florida Rescue, black, 3 years old, $150, #211, cute cute dog, female, all shots, named Charlie, HOUSE-TRAINED.

shut the front door 12-25-2022 06:20 PM

Just say no to buying doodles. There is NOT ONE single ethical doodle breeder. Zip, zilch, zero. They are not hypoallergenic. They shed. They have intense grooming needs. They are often crosses of dogs with VERY different body structures and temperaments. You don’t lessen your chances of your golden mix developing cancer, you’ve just increased your chances of your poodle mix developing it. Your Poodle/Pyrenees cross doesn’t know if they should hunt the birds or protect them. Poodle brains are a thing of beauty. Quit ruining them. Please stop doodling EVERYTHING.
If you want a mixed breed dog of unknown size, temperament or background history, adopt a shelter puppy! If you want an ethically bred, purebred dog- then research your breeder and find the right dog for you.
Source: Saving Grace Animal Rescue of Maryland

JSR22 12-25-2022 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2169886)
Just say no to buying doodles. There is NOT ONE single ethical doodle breeder. Zip, zilch, zero. They are not hypoallergenic. They shed. They have intense grooming needs. They are often crosses of dogs with VERY different body structures and temperaments. You don’t lessen your chances of your golden mix developing cancer, you’ve just increased your chances of your poodle mix developing it. Your Poodle/Pyrenees cross doesn’t know if they should hunt the birds or protect them. Poodle brains are a thing of beauty. Quit ruining them. Please stop doodling EVERYTHING.
If you want a mixed breed dog of unknown size, temperament or background history, adopt a shelter puppy! If you want an ethically bred, purebred dog- then research your breeder and find the right dog for you.
Source: Saving Grace Animal Rescue of Maryland

100 per cent correct. There is nothing ethical about breeding a doodle. They are very poorly bred mutts. They are backyard breeders who do not genetic testing.

JMintzer 12-25-2022 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2169886)
Just say no to buying doodles. There is NOT ONE single ethical doodle breeder. Zip, zilch, zero. They are not hypoallergenic. They shed. They have intense grooming needs. They are often crosses of dogs with VERY different body structures and temperaments. You don’t lessen your chances of your golden mix developing cancer, you’ve just increased your chances of your poodle mix developing it. Your Poodle/Pyrenees cross doesn’t know if they should hunt the birds or protect them. Poodle brains are a thing of beauty. Quit ruining them. Please stop doodling EVERYTHING.
If you want a mixed breed dog of unknown size, temperament or background history, adopt a shelter puppy! If you want an ethically bred, purebred dog- then research your breeder and find the right dog for you.
Source: Saving Grace Animal Rescue of Maryland

I respectfully disagree. We have had two Schnoodles and I had/have ZERO allergy issues with either of them. NEITHER of them shed... And they were and are ridiculously smart...

Or neighbors had a goldendoodle that also caused ZERO allergy issues, yet a golden retriever (or any other Labrador) will cause my eyes to start itching and me to start sneezing...

Genetic testing or not, waaaay too many purebreds have developed significant health issues due to overbreeding. Hip problems, cancers, etc...

I will agree that the "doodles" are "designer mutts". But what's wrong with that?

Velvet 12-25-2022 11:28 PM

Historically, dogs were bred for specific purposes, now these breeds are called “purebred”. Well, today they are breeding for different purposes (eg these doodle mixes) and these types of dogs are going to be called “purebred” when they get registered at the American Kennel Club. I find it interesting that some people want so badly for time to stand still.

Koapaka 12-26-2022 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2131210)
I have been around some very nice Pits. Actually, I owned ad Dog Camp in VT where you went on vacation with your dog. We had several cases of dogs biting, chihuahuas and jack russell terriers. Never a Pit.

I've yet to meet a chihuahua that was not certifiably psycho.

JMintzer 12-26-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2169925)
I've yet to meet a chihuahua that was not certifiably psycho.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Truth!

HandyGrandpap 12-26-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dulcimer (Post 2130689)
I saw there was a post on Nextdoor about Bernedoodles. We are on the waitlist with the breeders in Summerfield, for sometime in February. It would be great to get a group going. Sounds like we will have our hands full for a while!

"just a tip and perhaps you already know such" it is my understanding that Bernese side of the breed must be the female.


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