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dadspet 09-03-2022 11:32 AM

Racoons tearing apart garbage - Village contact to get rid of them?
 
Our neighborhood has several racoons (caught on Security Cam) that come out at night when the garbage is put out and tear it apart leaving a mess. This has been happening for several months and is really getting old. Garbage cans would solve the problem but aren't allowed in The Villages. We have tried double and triple bagging, ammonia, mint, black extra strong bags, putting garbage out in the early morning and nothing works.

Is there any group in The Villages that has the responsibility for wildlife removal we could contact?

Velvet 09-03-2022 12:16 PM

I buy scented garbage bags, and when next door renter puts garbage out with food I spray their bag with Lysol, or cleaning vinegar. No food smell means no birds or creatures. Garbage cans would mean noise, diesel truck emptying and crushing like in the city… yuk.

Bill14564 09-03-2022 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dadspet (Post 2132750)
Our neighborhood has several racoons (caught on Security Cam) that come out at night when the garbage is put out and tear it apart leaving a mess. This has been happening for several months and is really getting old. Garbage cans would solve the problem but aren't allowed in The Villages. We have tried double and triple bagging, ammonia, mint, black extra strong bags, putting garbage out in the early morning and nothing works.

Is there any group in The Villages that has the responsibility for wildlife removal we could contact?

Which area are you in? Haven't seen any problems near Hillsborough .... yet.

Arctic Fox 09-03-2022 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dadspet (Post 2132750)
Our neighborhood has several racoons (caught on Security Cam) that come out at night when the garbage is put out and tear it apart leaving a mess.

Garbage is not meant to be left out overnight but should be put out the morning of collection. This can be tricky as collection is not always at the same time (or may be very early in your area) but realistically there is no way of eliminating wild animals in an area with so many preserves and golf courses.

dadspet 09-03-2022 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2132764)
I buy scented garbage bags, and when next door renter puts garbage out with food I spray their bag with Lysol, or cleaning vinegar. No food smell means no birds or creatures. Garbage cans would mean noise, diesel truck emptying and crushing like in the city… yuk.

I've tried scented mint bag, spraying with Ammonia and triple bagging. Which hasn't worked against Racoons !

dadspet 09-03-2022 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2132772)
Garbage is not meant to be left out overnight but should be put out the morning of collection. This can be tricky as collection is not always at the same time (or may be very early in your area) but realistically there is no way of eliminating wild animals in an area with so many preserves and golf courses.

One neighbor puts out their garbage at about 5AM and the racoons still get into it. Our collection is before 6AM and not many are willing to get up before this and put out garbage especially since one neighbor does and it doesn't stop the racoons.

dewilson58 09-03-2022 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dadspet (Post 2132750)
Is there any group in The Villages that has the responsibility for wildlife removal we could contact?

Do you live in a city or in the county..............that is who you contact.

Stu from NYC 09-03-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2132772)
Garbage is not meant to be left out overnight but should be put out the morning of collection. This can be tricky as collection is not always at the same time (or may be very early in your area) but realistically there is no way of eliminating wild animals in an area with so many preserves and golf courses.

No raccons but our garbage is usually picked up by 6 30 and who is going to get out that early to put it out?

JSR22 09-03-2022 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2132777)
No raccons but our garbage is usually picked up by 6 30 and who is going to get out that early to put it out?

We put it out in the morning. We are up before 6:30

Bill14564 09-03-2022 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2132772)
Garbage is not meant to be left out overnight but should be put out the morning of collection. This can be tricky as collection is not always at the same time (or may be very early in your area) but realistically there is no way of eliminating wild animals in an area with so many preserves and golf courses.

Garbage is not meant to be put out before 5PM of the evening before it is picked up. For me, this means leaving out overnight. As others have posted, not many are likely to get up before 6:30AM to beat the truck.

Kenswing 09-03-2022 02:23 PM

Call Animal Control for whatever county you’re in and see if they’ll come out and set some traps and relocate the critters.

ThirdOfFive 09-03-2022 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2132797)
Garbage is not meant to be put out before 5PM of the evening before it is picked up. For me, this means leaving out overnight. As others have posted, not many are likely to get up before 6:30AM to beat the truck.

True. I usually put ours out by about 9:00 PM or so the night before.

We freeze waste items that could cause problems if the scent gets out (meat and fat scraps, bones, cantaloupe rinds, banana peels, etc.), and double-bag the lot just before I put out the garbage. It stays frozen at least to the point where it doesn't begin to smell by morning. We've only had a couple of issues (crows) and that was some time back.

EastCoastDawg 09-03-2022 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2132797)
Garbage is not meant to be put out before 5PM of the evening before it is picked up.

Per DistrictGov it is "not before 9pm".

We put all of our vegetal waste in our composter and double-bag any animal waste (meat, bones etc.) in the plastic "Daily Sun" bags. We back onto a preserve where there are raccoons, bobcats, possums and coyotes (and the occasional feral hog) and have never had our trash bag ripped open.

Bill14564 09-03-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 2132815)
Per DistrictGov it is "not before 9pm".

We put all of our vegetal waste in our composter and double-bag any animal waste (meat, bones etc.) in the plastic "Daily Sun" bags. We back onto a preserve where there are raccoons, bobcats, possums and coyotes (and the occasional feral hog) and have never had our trash bag ripped open.

Here’s mine:
From the Curbside Residential Collection Information: Bags must be placed for collection before 6AM on your collection day or the night before (no sooner than 5PM)

From my District Rules: The day before scheduled pickup shall mean garbage/trash shall not be placed curbside earlier than 5:00 p.m.

Now you show me yours

Bogie Shooter 09-03-2022 04:16 PM

Seems understandable.....................Village Community Development Districts


All household waste should be placed in a sealed
tall kitchen trash bag or a 20-30 gallon trash bag
(any color). All materials can be placed in the
same bag, no need to sort! The trash bags should
be placed together at the end of your driveway,
no garbage cans/bins are allowed (they will be
disposed of with household waste). Each bag
should weigh no more than forty (40) pounds. Bags
must be placed for collection before 6AM on your
collection day or the night before (no sooner than
5PM
) Collection times may vary. Deed Restrictions
do not permit leaving trash out on undesignated
days. Wrap broken glass or other sharp objects in
newspaper and place them where they cannot cause
injury. For a list of holidays that may affect your
normal collection day, please visit DistrictGov.org.

Stu from NYC 09-03-2022 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2132781)
We put it out in the morning. We are up before 6:30

Figured there was an early riser out there somewhere. Luckily for us in our neighborhood there seems to be no hungry raccoons

maggie1 09-04-2022 05:24 AM

Critters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2132798)
Call Animal Control for whatever county you’re in and see if they’ll come out and set some traps and relocate the critters.

I'd make book on it that if a raccoon is trapped, that it will not be relocated - it must be killed. Smart, but destructive little buggers who carry with it all kinds of diseases including rabies.

gweisheipl 09-04-2022 06:37 AM

Garbage/Racoons
 
Put your garbage out in the morning like the rest of us and your problem is solved!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadspet (Post 2132750)
Our neighborhood has several racoons (caught on Security Cam) that come out at night when the garbage is put out and tear it apart leaving a mess. This has been happening for several months and is really getting old. Garbage cans would solve the problem but aren't allowed in The Villages. We have tried double and triple bagging, ammonia, mint, black extra strong bags, putting garbage out in the early morning and nothing works.

Is there any group in The Villages that has the responsibility for wildlife removal we could contact?


DeeCee Dubya 09-04-2022 07:01 AM

Pellet rifle

JSR22 09-04-2022 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2132829)
Figured there was an early riser out there somewhere. Luckily for us in our neighborhood there seems to be no hungry raccoons

I live around the corner from you.

Stu from NYC 09-04-2022 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2132927)
I live around the corner from you.

Oopos maybe we are uphill and the little critters do not want to run uphill.:undecided:

Rzepecki 09-04-2022 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadspet (Post 2132750)
Our neighborhood has several racoons (caught on Security Cam) that come out at night when the garbage is put out and tear it apart leaving a mess. This has been happening for several months and is really getting old. Garbage cans would solve the problem but aren't allowed in The Villages. We have tried double and triple bagging, ammonia, mint, black extra strong bags, putting garbage out in the early morning and nothing works.

Is there any group in The Villages that has the responsibility for wildlife removal we could contact?

Try vinegar instead of ammonia. Ammonia may be attracting animals.

pauld315 09-04-2022 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 2132815)
Per DistrictGov it is "not before 9pm".

We put all of our vegetal waste in our composter and double-bag any animal waste (meat, bones etc.) in the plastic "Daily Sun" bags. We back onto a preserve where there are raccoons, bobcats, possums and coyotes (and the occasional feral hog) and have never had our trash bag ripped open.

Everybody is asleep by 9, especially if you want to be able to put your garbage out before the truck comes !

EastCoastDawg 09-04-2022 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2132818)
Here’s mine: From the Curbside Residential Collection Information: Bags must be placed for collection before 6AM on your collection day or the night before (no sooner than 5PM) ; From my District Rules: The day before scheduled pickup shall mean garbage/trash shall not be placed curbside earlier than 5:00 p.m.

Now you show me yours


More than happy to, Bill:

https://www.districtgov.org/communit...pdf?v=20220225

"What time can I put out the garbage?
Garbage bags must be placed at the curb no sooner than 9 p.m. the day before your scheduled pick up and no later than 6:00 a.m. the day of pickup."

blueash 09-04-2022 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gweisheipl (Post 2132904)
Put your garbage out in the morning like the rest of us and your problem is solved!

Why can some people here absolutely not have any reading comprehension then bloviate erroneously? See example above... in response to this extremely clear OP message


Quote:

Originally Posted by dadspet View Post
.... We have tried...., putting garbage out in the early morning and nothing works.

Bill14564 09-04-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 2132996)
More than happy to, Bill:

https://www.districtgov.org/communit...pdf?v=20220225

"What time can I put out the garbage?
Garbage bags must be placed at the curb no sooner than 9 p.m. the day before your scheduled pick up and no later than 6:00 a.m. the day of pickup."

Yep, that's an issue. Seems that site has an inconsistency.

Here are the External Deed restrictions for District 12 effective October 1, 2021. Under Garbage/Trash:
The day before scheduled pickup shall mean garbage/trash shall not be placed curbside earlier than 5:00 p.m.

EastCoastDawg 09-04-2022 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2133004)
Yep, that's an issue. Seems that site has an inconsistency.

My thinking is that any time after it gets dark(ish) should be fine - don't want the neighborhood looking unsightly, but have to take into account that a lot of we oldies go to bed quite early.

EastCoastDawg 09-04-2022 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2132772)
Garbage is not meant to be left out overnight but should be put out the morning of collection. This can be tricky as collection is not always at the same time (or may be very early in your area) but realistically there is no way of eliminating wild animals in an area with so many preserves and golf courses.

I'm sure the critter in our neighborhood had white fur and a bushy tail

Now, I'm not saying that it's Arctic Fox getting into the trash, but...

Worldseries27 09-04-2022 10:29 AM

Varmint control officers
 
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Originally Posted by dadspet (Post 2132773)
i've tried scented mint bag, spraying with ammonia and triple bagging. Which hasn't worked against racoons !

long term rates available they eat what they shoot .

Arctic Fox 09-04-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 2133029)
I'm sure the critter in our neighborhood had white fur and a bushy tail

Now, I'm not saying that it's Arctic Fox getting into the trash, but...

A scurrilous accusation, Mr Dawg - just for that I'm sending my friends the raccoons over to you this evening :icon_wink:

Kennybmd 09-04-2022 10:46 AM

Same problem, call animal control. $500 to trap and remove one racoon.. LOL
:bigbow:

DaleDivine 09-04-2022 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2132797)
Garbage is not meant to be put out before 5PM of the evening before it is picked up. For me, this means leaving out overnight. As others have posted, not many are likely to get up before 6:30AM to beat the truck.

I don't usually go to bed until after 10 or 11. Always up between 4:15 and 5 every day. Our trash pickup is around 7 Monday and Thursday, soooo when I go out to get my paper I always take my trash out then. NOOO issues in 8 years...
:bowdown::bowdown:

Stu from NYC 09-04-2022 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2133033)
A scurrilous accusation, Mr Dawg - just for that I'm sending my friends the raccoons over to you this evening :icon_wink:

Anyone want to rent a bb gun for a day or two?

wamley 09-04-2022 01:17 PM

Garbage cans don't work unless you tie the lids down, than the garbagemen complain, it takes too much time.

MillerD 09-04-2022 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadspet (Post 2132750)
Our neighborhood has several racoons (caught on Security Cam) that come out at night when the garbage is put out and tear it apart leaving a mess. This has been happening for several months and is really getting old. Garbage cans would solve the problem but aren't allowed in The Villages. We have tried double and triple bagging, ammonia, mint, black extra strong bags, putting garbage out in the early morning and nothing works.

Is there any group in The Villages that has the responsibility for wildlife removal we could contact?

We agree. Not using garbage cans is seriously unsanitary and dangerous. We have 1 in the garage but aren't allowed to put it out. This is strange for a supposed upscale community.

Raccoons are nasty and carry rabies. They will bite and the Villages is just attracting them. It's not the animals fault.

MillerD 09-04-2022 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2133039)
I don't usually go to bed until after 10 or 11. Always up between 4:15 and 5 every day. Our trash pickup is around 7 Monday and Thursday, soooo when I go out to get my paper I always take my trash out then. NOOO issues in 8 years...
:bowdown::bowdown:

Raccoons are nocturnal. Not everyone is up at 5. Am.

MillerD 09-04-2022 01:26 PM

Btw. I have seen crows too ripping open bags.

Bonanza 09-04-2022 02:23 PM

Don't Blame the Raccoons!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeCee Dubya (Post 2132924)
Pellet rifle

The thought of harming wildlife is atrocious when they are only trying to survive in an area where mankind has infringed upon their territory!

Like it or not, it is the fault of the developer because he is too cheap to mandate trash cans, and the residents who don't want them are equally at fault. Our landfills are overcome with plastic bags from 125,000+ residents who put out their trash twice a week. These bags will take hundreds of years to disintegrate. Do you have any idea of the disaster you have planned for future generations and your grandchildren???

The first thing you can do is stop putting garbage in the trash. Everyone has a garbage disposal. Use it! And yes -- you CAN put chicken bones down them. Garbage disposals need roughage to run properly. And if you're really concerned, yes -- get up early and put your trash out then. Otherwise, you can sleep all day and stay up all night and be on watch outside for the hungry critters and scare them away!

Guess whose fault this "problem" really is?????


Kenswing 09-04-2022 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 2133130)
The thought of harming wildlife is atrocious when they are only trying to survive in an area where mankind has infringed upon their territory!

Like it or not, it is the fault of the developer because he is too cheap to mandate trash cans, and the residents who don't want them are equally at fault. Our landfills are overcome with plastic bags from 125,000+ residents who put out their trash twice a week. These bags will take hundreds of years to disintegrate. Do you have any idea of the disaster you have planned for future generations and your grandchildren???

The first thing you can do is stop putting garbage in the trash. Everyone has a garbage disposal. Use it! And yes -- you CAN put chicken bones down them. Garbage disposals need roughage to run properly. And if you're really concerned, yes -- get up early and put your trash out then. Otherwise, you can sleep all day and stay up all night and be on watch outside for the hungry critters and scare them away!

Guess whose fault this "problem" really is?????


Not sure how many times you’ll need to be told before it’ll sink in but our trash doesn’t go to a landfill. It’s incinerated. As far as trash cans go, with twice a week collection there would always be cans in the street. Lids all over the place. No thanks. I’ll deal with the occasional critter getting into someone’s bag.

Bonanza 09-04-2022 02:56 PM

Incineration is Also a Problem!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2133132)
Not sure how many times you’ll need to be told before it’ll sink in but our trash doesn’t go to a landfill. It’s incinerated. As far as trash cans go, with twice a week collection there would always be cans in the street. Lids all over the place. No thanks. I’ll deal with the occasional critter getting into someone’s bag.

I'm not a five-year-old child and don't have to be spoken to like one.

Yeah, you'll deal with it because it isn't in your driveway!

Since you're so smart, what about the air pollution incineration causes, and then what becomes of the remains from the incineration which is still a pollutant?

There are many more "real" reasons for having trash cans and not using plastic bags for trash! Why don't other communities have a problem with trash cans or is it limited to enabled residents who are simply lazy and make up non-excuses for having a trash can?

Huh???


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