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Goldwingnut 09-03-2022 10:07 PM

Construction Update #115 – I was wrong! 9-2-2022
 
After a 2-month hiatus I’m back with a new video update of the construction happening in and around The Villages. I started on this video several time but with everything that was happening every time I sat down to edit, everything was out of date. Last Sunday I got out and shot fresh video updates of all the important stuff going on and over the next four and a half days I’ve managed to get the video put together. Of course, as I was shooting and doing the editing I found even more to report on, but I’ll save that for upcoming videos.

Please enjoy the video and remember to support my sponsors.

https://youtu.be/Vg_B7q_-88s

Here is a list with links to the various areas covered in the video so you can jump to the areas you want to see.
0:19 Sawgrass Grove
5:04 Lake Miona Walking Path
5:52 Sprouts
6:24 Hobby Lobby
6:55 Culvers/Hilton Hotel and area north of Pinellas Plaza
8:50 7-11 on 44A
10:06 Lake Deaton Plaza
10:44 McDonalds at Brownwood
11:24 Okahumpka Rec Center
12:43 7-11 at Magnolia Plaza
13:44 US301/Warm Springs commercial buildings
15:10 Southern Oaks Bridge
16:53 Buena Vista Blvd extension
18:25 DeLuna
20:25 South of Monarch Grove
22:15 Middleton area
25:53 Eastport
27:40 Village of Richmond
31:21 Village of Newell

MSchad 09-04-2022 06:12 AM

Great video as usual Don!

John Mayes 09-04-2022 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2132872)
After a 2-month hiatus I’m back with a new video update of the construction happening in and around The Villages. I started on this video several time but with everything that was happening every time I sat down to edit, everything was out of date. Last Sunday I got out and shot fresh video updates of all the important stuff going on and over the next four and a half days I’ve managed to get the video put together. Of course, as I was shooting and doing the editing I found even more to report on, but I’ll save that for upcoming videos.



Please enjoy the video and remember to support my sponsors.

https://youtu.be/Vg_B7q_-88s




Here is a list with links to the various areas covered in the video so you can jump to the areas you want to see.
0:19 Sawgrass Grove
5:04 Lake Miona Walking Path
5:52 Sprouts
6:24 Hobby Lobby
6:55 Culvers/Hilton Hotel and area north of Pinellas Plaza
8:50 7-11 on 44A
10:06 Lake Deaton Plaza
10:44 McDonalds at Brownwood
11:24 Okahumpka Rec Center
12:43 7-11 at Magnolia Plaza
13:44 US301/Warm Springs commercial buildings
15:10 Southern Oaks Bridge
16:53 Buena Vista Blvd extension
18:25 DeLuna
20:25 South of Monarch Grove
22:15 Middleton area
25:53 Eastport
27:40 Village of Richmond
31:21 Village of Newell



Thanks Don.

Altavia 09-04-2022 09:52 AM

Do you know what's planned where they are widening 470 South of the Turnpike?

Seems a lot of the underground utilities are in work.

Also interesting the are getting closer to Bugg Spring.

Bugg Spring - Wikipedia

TraceJustice 09-04-2022 12:53 PM

Thanks so much for your great videos Don. We plan on moving to TV in the near future and your videos are very helpful in helping us figure out what area we want to live in. I've missed your videos the last 2 months. Congrats on your win.

tghoul 09-04-2022 02:35 PM

The workers putting up the canvass tarps at Sawgrass must get paid by the hour. They started over 4 weeks ago and they still don't have 3 of the tarps installed. About 1 week per tarp.

P A Paul 09-04-2022 07:25 PM

There’s issues with the sawgrass tarps…these aren’t the finished product but a bandaid until original material arrives. Think of the money Developer has lost by not being able to open. Heck, the lost bar revenue alone is incalculable.

John Mayes 09-04-2022 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P A Paul (Post 2133218)
There’s issues with the sawgrass tarps…these aren’t the finished product but a bandaid until original material arrives. Think of the money Developer has lost by not being able to open. Heck, the lost bar revenue alone is incalculable.

Interesting. Where did this info come from ?

Goldwingnut 09-04-2022 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2133010)
Do you know what's planned where they are widening 470 South of the Turnpike?

Seems a lot of the underground utilities are in work.

Also interesting the are getting closer to Bugg Spring.

Bugg Spring - Wikipedia

Yes, 470 will be widened from where Dabney ends to the county line including an additional bridge span under a road agreement with Lake County. From the County line to the west end of Middleton CR470 is being widened and rerouted under a road agreement with Sumter County.

Bugg Springs was specifically addressed in the impact studies of N/LD/D because of the sensitive acoustical (sonar) testing done there by the Navy. While the construction period was a concern, they deemed is should have no long-term impact to the Navy's work there.

As to how the Navy chose Bugg Springs for sonar testing, it's anybody's guess, my 20 years in the Navy on submarines taught me not to ask questions about oddities, the justification was always more odd than the situation.

Goldwingnut 09-04-2022 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2133230)
Interesting. Where did this info come from ?

New one on me also...

karenzeee 09-05-2022 06:18 AM

Excellent Video as always! Lots of great information! Thanks Don!

epappy2 09-05-2022 06:56 AM

Thank you 😊

GoneFishing 09-05-2022 07:30 AM

Thanks Don. I’ve missed your videos!

jrref 09-05-2022 07:38 AM

Don, great video as always. How are the new schools in Middleton going to affect our school taxes? Is Middleton in Sumpter or Lake counties?

I understand the reason for building the schools, etc, but i'm concerned the school budget may get too large for us to pay for.

Back in NY every town and village had to have their own school system and school taxes were out of control which is why i'm concerned. I understand there will be a new population base to help spread the costs but some more detail or insite would be great on this matter.

Bogie Shooter 09-05-2022 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2133312)
Don, great video as always. How are the new schools in Middleton going to affect our school taxes? Is Middleton in Sumpter or Lake counties?

I understand the reason for building the schools, etc, but i'm concerned the school budget may get too large for us to pay for.

Back in NY every town and village had to have their own school system and school taxes were out of control which is why i'm concerned. I understand there will be a new population base to help spread the costs but some more detail or insite would be great on this matter.

A member of the school board could probably answer your questions. (let us know what you find out)
Sumter District Schools / Homepage

richdell 09-05-2022 09:47 AM

Great video as always, Don. Your information is always helpful.

EviesGP 09-05-2022 10:02 AM

Thanks, Don.
I agree on the Sawgrass Grove interior noise. I/we noticed that first time it opened. That whole area is going to challenging(IMO).
#1. I think the square area is a bit small(for that many homes down there).
#2 The stage roof seems a bit high(shelter from rain?).
#3. The parking(which will be shared by restaurant patrons, Sawgrass patrons, and the Rec Center. Oh, and you have to park, go thru the little mall to get to the golf shop, then go back out and across the road to golf?

On the Trailwinds area. Have you heard anymore about the Ocala hospital? Seems like it died on the vine?

Thanks.

coffeebean 09-05-2022 10:33 AM

Thank you for this wonderful video. Don, do you have any idea how long the walking path is around Lake Mion Rec Center?

TommyT 09-05-2022 10:39 AM

It's my understanding BUGG SPRING is on the property of a facility known as the Underwater Sound Reference Division of the Naval Undersea Warfare Center and is not accessible. It is mostly surrounded by swampland with sandhills to the south.

Glorantha 09-05-2022 10:50 AM

Don, another informative video.

I don’t see any traffic circles being constructed on Meggison Road, is this something that happens further down the construction timeline. I can see this being one of the busier roads in TV and I don’t see how they are going to slow the traffic. I see the construction of some golf cart trails, but not any tunnels crossing Meggison.

John Mayes 09-05-2022 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EviesGP (Post 2133373)
Thanks, Don.
I agree on the Sawgrass Grove interior noise. I/we noticed that first time it opened. That whole area is going to challenging(IMO).
#1. I think the square area is a bit small(for that many homes down there).
#2 The stage roof seems a bit high(shelter from rain?).
#3. The parking(which will be shared by restaurant patrons, Sawgrass patrons, and the Rec Center. Oh, and you have to park, go thru the little mall to get to the golf shop, then go back out and across the road to golf?

On the Trailwinds area. Have you heard anymore about the Ocala hospital? Seems like it died on the vine?

Thanks.

There is parking right outside the golf shop. You can go in and out of the shop without going through the Market.

champion6 09-05-2022 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EviesGP (Post 2133373)
<snip>
On the Trailwinds area. Have you heard anymore about the Ocala hospital? Seems like it died on the vine?

In March 2021, Hospital Corp of America purchased the parcels east of Publix from the Trailwinds developer. Since then, nothing more seems to have occurred as to obtaining the permits needed to begin construction.

mikemalloy 09-05-2022 01:53 PM

Don, do you have any information about a possible sports pool in Richmond? I'm in north St. John's where we don't have a village pool for about 4 miles. Richmond would be closer than Everglades or Eisenhower.

Dond1959 09-05-2022 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2133312)
Don, great video as always. How are the new schools in Middleton going to affect our school taxes? Is Middleton in Sumpter or Lake counties?

I understand the reason for building the schools, etc, but i'm concerned the school budget may get too large for us to pay for.

Back in NY every town and village had to have their own school system and school taxes were out of control which is why i'm concerned. I understand there will be a new population base to help spread the costs but some more detail or insite would be great on this matter.

The schools are being built and paid for by the developer to attract quality employees who will work for the Villages and certain businesses. It is a significant investment by the developer. The family housing near the schools will pay property taxes like the rest of us. So I don’t see a major impact on our school taxes from the charter schools.

Bogie Shooter 09-05-2022 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2133385)
Thank you for this wonderful video. Don, do you have any idea how long the walking path is around Lake Mion Rec Center?

Seven-tenths of a mile long.

Indydealmaker 09-05-2022 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2132872)
After a 2-month hiatus I’m back with a new video update of the construction happening in and around The Villages. I started on this video several time but with everything that was happening every time I sat down to edit, everything was out of date. Last Sunday I got out and shot fresh video updates of all the important stuff going on and over the next four and a half days I’ve managed to get the video put together. Of course, as I was shooting and doing the editing I found even more to report on, but I’ll save that for upcoming videos.

Please enjoy the video and remember to support my sponsors.

https://youtu.be/Vg_B7q_-88s

Here is a list with links to the various areas covered in the video so you can jump to the areas you want to see.
0:19 Sawgrass Grove
5:04 Lake Miona Walking Path
5:52 Sprouts
6:24 Hobby Lobby
6:55 Culvers/Hilton Hotel and area north of Pinellas Plaza
8:50 7-11 on 44A
10:06 Lake Deaton Plaza
10:44 McDonalds at Brownwood
11:24 Okahumpka Rec Center
12:43 7-11 at Magnolia Plaza
13:44 US301/Warm Springs commercial buildings
15:10 Southern Oaks Bridge
16:53 Buena Vista Blvd extension
18:25 DeLuna
20:25 South of Monarch Grove
22:15 Middleton area
25:53 Eastport
27:40 Village of Richmond
31:21 Village of Newell

Don, you do good work!

Goldwingnut 09-05-2022 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2133312)
Don, great video as always. How are the new schools in Middleton going to affect our school taxes? Is Middleton in Sumpter or Lake counties?

I understand the reason for building the schools, etc, but i'm concerned the school budget may get too large for us to pay for.

Back in NY every town and village had to have their own school system and school taxes were out of control which is why i'm concerned. I understand there will be a new population base to help spread the costs but some more detail or insite would be great on this matter.

The developer is actually paying for the entire new schools project, not the taxpayers, so it doesn't affect the school budget. The student population doesn't change dramatically year-over-year so the operating costs increase much each year either - when it opens they HS students will move here, and others will be redistributed between the new and old schools. The developer picks up a substantial portion of the operating cost (most people don't know or realize this) because they consider this an employee benefit and a part of the cost of doing business. The "greedy developer" and their subcontracts give back a lot more to the community than the "internet experts" know or can comprehend.

The local portion of your school tax continues to decrease, the state portion not as much, check your TRIM notice.

Goldwingnut 09-05-2022 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemalloy (Post 2133438)
Don, do you have any information about a possible sports pool in Richmond? I'm in north St. John's where we don't have a village pool for about 4 miles. Richmond would be closer than Everglades or Eisenhower.

Nothing is planned for the area. Your drive to a sports pool is similar to many others here in The Villages. Some have longer, some have shorter.

Goldwingnut 09-05-2022 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EviesGP (Post 2133373)
Thanks, Don.
I agree on the Sawgrass Grove interior noise. I/we noticed that first time it opened. That whole area is going to challenging(IMO).
#1. I think the square area is a bit small(for that many homes down there).
#2 The stage roof seems a bit high(shelter from rain?).
#3. The parking(which will be shared by restaurant patrons, Sawgrass patrons, and the Rec Center. Oh, and you have to park, go thru the little mall to get to the golf shop, then go back out and across the road to golf?

On the Trailwinds area. Have you heard anymore about the Ocala hospital? Seems like it died on the vine?



Thanks.

#1 - it's about the same size as the Brownwood area, just no seating.
#2 - agree
#3 - yes shared parking, 420+ car spaces, double or more with just golf carts, there's an outside entrance to the golf shop so you don't need to go through the market area.
#4 - nothing yet, hospitals take a long time to design and build, because of the support systems involved they are some of the most complex buildings to build and take a long time to design (I worked several before retiring from the construction industry).

Marykess1802 09-06-2022 04:37 AM

Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2132872)
After a 2-month hiatus I’m back with a new video update of the construction happening in and around The Villages. I started on this video several time but with everything that was happening every time I sat down to edit, everything was out of date. Last Sunday I got out and shot fresh video updates of all the important stuff going on and over the next four and a half days I’ve managed to get the video put together. Of course, as I was shooting and doing the editing I found even more to report on, but I’ll save that for upcoming videos.

Please enjoy the video and remember to support my sponsors.

https://youtu.be/Vg_B7q_-88s

Here is a list with links to the various areas covered in the video so you can jump to the areas you want to see.
0:19 Sawgrass Grove
5:04 Lake Miona Walking Path
5:52 Sprouts
6:24 Hobby Lobby
6:55 Culvers/Hilton Hotel and area north of Pinellas Plaza
8:50 7-11 on 44A
10:06 Lake Deaton Plaza
10:44 McDonalds at Brownwood
11:24 Okahumpka Rec Center
12:43 7-11 at Magnolia Plaza
13:44 US301/Warm Springs commercial buildings
15:10 Southern Oaks Bridge
16:53 Buena Vista Blvd extension
18:25 DeLuna
20:25 South of Monarch Grove
22:15 Middleton area
25:53 Eastport
27:40 Village of Richmond
31:21 Village of Newell

Totally enjoy your updates of places I will probably never see. Thanks for keeping us informed. Congratulations on winning the elections.

gbs317 09-06-2022 04:53 AM

Thank you Don. My wife and I always look forward to your videos.

gweisheipl 09-06-2022 07:22 AM

Sawgrass Grove
 
The rumor mill indicates the fabric is fine, but they forgot to put lock washers on all of the bolts, so they are having to go back and remove every single bolt on the support arms and add lock washers! QUOTE=tghoul;2133136]The workers putting up the canvass tarps at Sawgrass must get paid by the hour. They started over 4 weeks ago and they still don't have 3 of the tarps installed. About 1 week per tarp.[/QUOTE]

gweisheipl 09-06-2022 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P A Paul (Post 2133218)
There’s issues with the sawgrass tarps…these aren’t the finished product but a bandaid until original material arrives. Think of the money Developer has lost by not being able to open. Heck, the lost bar revenue alone is incalculable.

The rumor mill indicates it’s not the fabric, but they forgot the lock washers on all of the bolts, so they have been replacing the lock washers on all of the support arm bolts!

Rwirish 09-06-2022 11:06 AM

The lack of Executive Golf Courses in these new areas is concerning. Many residents can’t play pitch and putt ( difficult to walk ) and putt and play is nice for visitors.

JMintzer 09-06-2022 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 2133698)
The lack of Executive Golf Courses in these new areas is concerning. Many residents can’t play pitch and putt ( difficult to walk ) and putt and play is nice for visitors.

There are at least 5 more executive courses either currently being built or scheduled to be built...

Fastskiguy 09-06-2022 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2133716)
There are at least 5 more executive courses either currently being built or scheduled to be built...

Which is 5 more than they have built since at least Jan 2020, despite building like 10,000 new homes (not including southern oaks). So personally I'm pretty optimistic on the exec golf going forwards and really happy to see it.

Joe

JMintzer 09-06-2022 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2133717)
Which is 5 more than they have built since at least Jan 2020, despite building like 10,000 new homes (not including southern oaks). So personally I'm pretty optimistic on the exec golf going forwards and really happy to see it.

Joe

There were 4 before that time. Red & Gray Fox, Loblolly and Lowlands, right?

coffeebean 09-06-2022 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2133449)
Seven-tenths of a mile long.

Thanks for that information. Nice to have a dedicated walking path here in then northern part of The Villages and even nicer that the surface is conducive for those with arthritis. Can't wait to walk in the cooler months on that path.

coffeebean 09-06-2022 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glorantha (Post 2133391)
Don, another informative video.

I don’t see any traffic circles being constructed on Meggison Road, is this something that happens further down the construction timeline. I can see this being one of the busier roads in TV and I don’t see how they are going to slow the traffic. I see the construction of some golf cart trails, but not any tunnels crossing Meggison.

Are there any tunnels south of 44 that tunnel under the main roads like there are north of 44?

Kenswing 09-06-2022 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2133729)
Are there any tunnels south of 44 that tunnel under the main roads like there are north of 44?

Yes.


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