Should there be villages with no pets?
 

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

And then there are people who like pets but dont want them on their lawn, in stores or restaurants. Those are the people who treat pets like animals and not children.

...........and when the first 'Service Dog' arrives?

And suppose you did come up with a solution where all sides were satisfied, how do you intend to get your solution implemented? Do you really think the developer is going to narrow the group of prospective buyers?

With the number of residents who can't seem to remember the other deed restrictions they agreed to (yard ornaments, white crosses, landscaping, additions, etc.), why would this work any better?

It might increase the demand. Some people are allergic to animals and would like to know that they are buying in a village where that wouldn’t be an issue. In fact, if people knew they would not be bothered by pets, they might pay a premium to live there.

What about a village for those:
- not over 85
- with electric cars
- like to party until morning
Starts to get silly, no?

Non pet village dumb idea.

I think there are.

What?

Well as long as we are introducing novel ideas .....how about a Kid-Free village ?
No noisy grandchildren screeching and splashing in the pools, no young grandchildren .....that shouldn't be....driving around in golf carts, and no loud teenagers playing so called music, need I say more ??

I'd also like to add to that;
NO adult children with a rap sheet living with Mom and Dad or Grandma and Grandpa would be allowed in this Kid-Free village either !

How about a village where the temperature never exceeds 76 degrees and never goes below 72 degrees.

I'll ask again. How do you envision getting any plan you come up with implemented? Because without a plan this thread is just another "what if" game.

Do PETS include wildlife or can they roam the proposed village?

Or how about a village that does not allow deadbeat kids or grandkids living with them.

Hopefully the developer (or one of his employees) reads TOTV and will see that an overwhelming number of villagers would like to have pet-friendly and pet-free villages - and will implement it.

If it works, it works and if it doesn’t work, it will be like De La Mesa - the village with a private park and pool. Apparently that didn’t catch on.

Overwhelming number?

Aw come on. Overwhelming? I suspect OP has recently been picked on by someone's little pooch. And I suspect someone THAT averse to animals prolly has other pet peeves (ha) and wasn't a good candidate for an active retirement community. I don't have a dog but enjoy seeing all the dog walkers pass by on their way to the trail, and they haven't killed that awful St Augustine grass yet.

So you’re pinning the success of your little project on the “hope” that someone from the Developer sees this thread and feels it’s worthy to take action on? That has to be the weakest commitment to a project I have ever seen. lol

It’s not the pets, it’s the dumb people who think they can force their animals on us. I love dogs , not when I’m eating or in grocery store. Home Depot, that’s fine. Stood next to a lady feeding her dog samples at publix deli. Gross , I left. Not dogs fault, owner.

I have seen similar discussions on other sites so there must be interest out there. We personally would love to have an opportunity to live in a pet free village. Barking dogs can absolutely ruin your enjoyment of your home and neighborhood. We came here from a neighborhood that had a number of dogs that would start barking the moment their owners left the house and could go for hours. Two of them barked constantly at us every time we sat on our back porch even if the owners were home. They apparently weren’t bothered enough about it to address the problem. It was a key reason for us moving.

Dogs using our yard as a latrine is a less serious problem but my husband does have to pick up a pile or two sometimes before he can mow the lawn, which just shouldn’t be.

As far as pets in restaurants and stores, living in a pet free village would not be an answer to that anyway. That’s a societal thing and in no way unique to The Villages.

We used to travel extensively in our RV and if we had an option of a pet free park, especially for longer stays, we would usually take advantage of it. There are so many people who travel with dogs and then leave them locked up in an RV all day while they sight see and it’s not hard to guess what some of the dogs choose to do with their time……bark.

We do not dislike dogs per se. We always had them when our daughter was young because she was such an animal lover. And it’s usually not the dogs fault that they are a problem, it’s irresponsible owners who do not train them properly and do not control them so that they aren’t a nuisance to others. It’s our experience with those dogs that has soured us on dogs in general so that we have chosen not to own them and are not interested in having our lives impacted by people who do. Bottom line, someone else’s choice to own a dog shouldn’t become our problem or have a negative impact on our life as we choose not to have them for a reason.

So, yes, if there was a pet free village being offered we would absolutely be on board to buy there and I have talked to others who have expressed the same to me. I don’t think they’d have any problem selling those houses. I agree that there might be a premium for them.

How 'bout a Village with no cars. Everyone knows what a nuisance they are. Maybe one with no bikes, we know how dangerous they can be. Oh, how 'bout one with no People. We all know how much trouble they can be.

Boy, there's no end to how boring we can make it if allowed. :bigbow: :super:

There should be a village with walls around it to contain owners who don't like pets

So, in the new Village of Utopia where there are no dogs, who will clean up the poop from the squirrels, rabbits, rate, mice, birds, snakes, coyotes, feral cats............? Or is it just dog poop that offends?

Well, there you go. Should have known better than to post an honest point of view in response to an actual question asked on a forum with some people who just sit with fingers poised waiting to make a smart ass comment whenever possible. How sophomoric of you.

But I will answer your ridiculous comment anyway, smaller wildlife leave droppings you’d be hard pressed to even find in the grass. The wildlife you mentioned (of which we’ve seen ZERO so far) would be worth cleaning up after just for an opportunity to see them. But the Fido’s that make four or five trips around the block every day…..not so much.

I would prefer the sanitation Dept of the State of Florida, step down on animals in public places.
And don't mention "service" dogs. Those harnesses came be bought on the internet.

I was in Walmart not so long a long where we witness a young father with 3 kids walking around with a python
around his tattooed neck.
Really smart Walmart.

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You nailed it on the first reply. This thread proposes -> Hate, Love, Non-plussed.

You can love a banana cream pie, but hate one thrown at your face.

You can Love the Player, but Hate the Game!

You can like animals, but not on your lawn, next to you in a booth, or in a grocery cart.

How about a Village for considerate people who..............

Not on your life! Wherever I go, Spike (my emotional support monitor lizard) goes with me!

Legally, I don't know if the districts can control what animals you have in your house. But, it's interesting.

So not fair. The old biddies have more than enough work to do now.

And don’t forget we’ll need a village for non-smokers please.

We seem to think we can legislate perfection. Reality is truly simple. Your rights end where the other persons rights begin. Consideration of others.

Dogs. It is interesting. A dog has an instinct not to relieve itself where it lives. It is an animal. It eats and it xxxxxx. The dog has the instinct not to go where it lives. Owners think it is fine to walk their dog where other people live. You can train YOUR dog to go on your property. Your dog does not belong where food is being sold. Brownwood farmer's market. I saw a pet dog do a two in the walk way. What was the proper thing for the owner to do? Pick up after his PET and continue handling food. Pretend he was unaware and leave it there? The owner took the second option. Shortly another villager, NOT ME, stepped in it. The dog does not belong there..

There are options. I have a friend who bought 180 acres in the backwoods of North Carolina with his brother. Both are married and they live there.

Before moving to the Villages I saw a listing for an Island with a nice house, it was like 10 acres with a small herd of wild horses. It was priced at a million. I suggested to my wife my own little Kingdom. It was vetoed by the queen.

Nothing is perfect. Everything has plusses and minuses.

I’ll second that.

How about a Village where everyone living there has to be vaccinated, and people who are not vaccinated aren’t allowed to set foot in that Village. While we’re at it, how about Villages where the residents must all be registered to the same political party. And what the heck, a Village where all residents are required to own at least one dog.

I think I'm neutral. Although I love pets, I don't want to be tied to the house with one - I may want to go on an impromptu trip, etc.. Would the hypothetical pet ban include indoor cats too?

If there was a pet-free village, it would only be fair to have a pet-required village.

Feeding samples to her dog at the deli counter in WHICH Publix? The workers allowed it and didn't get the manager to get her to leave? That must have broken some kind of health codes.
I love dogs, but that is disgusting. That is the kind of arrogant, delusional self-entitlement that make folks not like dogs. It is the owner who is the jerk, but the dog gets the blame.

Some people just have no class.

Stop saying "Pets" you know that every one has a dog. Say a Dog less Villages
 

It would be a dream come true. A dog less Village. No more barking...people walking out in front of you in car...cart. But it will never happen just as long as there are people who like to be worshipped by a dog and people worshipping dogs...