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Rainger99 09-09-2022 02:56 PM

Baseball rule changes for 2023
 
MLB officially passes major rules changes for 2023 season.

MLB officially passes major rules changes for 2023 season

Stu from NYC 09-09-2022 03:05 PM

Happy if this will speed up the game

retiredguy123 09-09-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2134773)
Happy if this will speed up the game

I would rather they put me to sleep faster.

Babubhat 09-09-2022 03:45 PM

Half the player roster and half the games would make the regular season more meaningful. Most teams out it by July 4

blueash 09-09-2022 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2134770)
MLB officially passes major rules changes for 2023 season.

MLB officially passes major rules changes for 2023 season

Sadly it does not include the change I think would most improve the game.. Use technology to call balls and strikes. Every single game has myriad wrong guesses by the home plate ump. There is the lovely box on the screen that tells me where the strike zone is and it would so nice if a ball was called a ball and vice versa.

fdpaq0580 09-09-2022 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2134793)
Sadly it does not include the change I think would most improve the game.. Use technology to call balls and strikes. Every single game has myriad wrong guesses by the home plate ump. There is the lovely box on the screen that tells me where the strike zone is and it would so nice if a ball was called a ball and vice versa.

And robot pitching machines and drones with nets to snag the long fly ball headed for the center field fence, and...... Or, forget the tech. It is a game, not an arms race.....??? Or is it?

Stu from NYC 09-09-2022 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2134791)
Half the player roster and half the games would make the regular season more meaningful. Most teams out it by July 4

Too many dollars would be lost to do that. Besides once upon a time only two teams were in playoff.

Davonu 09-09-2022 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2134793)
Sadly it does not include the change I think would most improve the game.. Use technology to call balls and strikes. Every single game has myriad wrong guesses by the home plate ump. There is the lovely box on the screen that tells me where the strike zone is and it would so nice if a ball was called a ball and vice versa.

You sure trust that box. Read the official MLB definition of the strike zone. Often the box isn’t even right according to that definition. Plus, the strike zone is 3 dimensional…due to home plate having depth. That really matters on breaking pitches. The box doesn’t reflect that at all.

I think balls and strikes will be automated someday, but I don’t think the tech is quite ready…at least the way it’s shown on the screen today.

Worldseries27 09-10-2022 04:41 AM

Fat lady ain't singing yet
 
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Originally Posted by babubhat (Post 2134791)
half the player roster and half the games would make the regular season more meaningful. Most teams out it by july 4

july 4th yankees up by 15 games on tampa bay rays
today 3 and a half.

La lamy 09-10-2022 05:05 AM

I love it when people try to make things better! I'm all for a faster game that's for sure. :BigApplause:

djplong 09-10-2022 05:38 AM

Robo-umps will be here in 2024. I can't find a link at the moment but that "rule change" can't happen until a year after a meeting where it's decided and that meeting is scheduled in 2023.

Unfortunately, they won't be doing it right. As I understand it, instead of the system that basically signals the ump as to whether a pitch is a ball or strike, umps will still call the pitches and there will be another "challenge system" that players or the managers will have to instigate.

The system in question is a true 3-dimensional system, unlike the "2D" boxes you see on regular telecasts. That means that a breaking ball could be in the dirt by the time it gets to the catcher's mitt but still have "nicked the strike zone" on it's way there.

RiderOnTheStorm 09-10-2022 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2134776)
I would rather they put me to sleep faster.

I'm with you. I'll be watching my grass grow. Much more exciting.

RICH1 09-10-2022 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2134770)
MLB officially passes major rules changes for 2023 season.

MLB officially passes major rules changes for 2023 season

An Excellent Post ! Thank you for the great read… some of my best memories were at the ballpark

Travelhunter123 09-10-2022 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2134845)
You sure trust that box. Read the official MLB definition of the strike zone. Often the box isn’t even right according to that definition. Plus, the strike zone is 3 dimensional…due to home plate having depth. That really matters on breaking pitches. The box doesn’t reflect that at all.

I think balls and strikes will be automated someday, but I don’t think the tech is quite ready…at least the way it’s shown on the screen today.

The technology is more than ready. The state of the art is way beyond this

garykoca427@gmail.com 09-10-2022 06:36 AM

Baseball
 
I am for the changes that are being implemented. I remember watching a Dodger pitcher - Baez - taking about two minutes to throw each pitch. I don't understand why the players could not have solved the problem of stacking the infield all to one side by bunting or hitting the ball to the vacated side, but I guess they can't. And I would not put in an automatic ball and strike robot. Having umpires is part of the charm of the game.

BlueHeronFan 09-10-2022 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2134845)
You sure trust that box. Read the official MLB definition of the strike zone. Often the box isn’t even right according to that definition. Plus, the strike zone is 3 dimensional…due to home plate having depth. That really matters on breaking pitches. The box doesn’t reflect that at all.

I think balls and strikes will be automated someday, but I don’t think the tech is quite ready…at least the way it’s shown on the screen today.

They do have 3D coverage for pitches but it's currently for replay to show how the pitcher's throws are working. It's will be used in the near future because they have tried it in the minor leagues already. I look forward to it. The umpire's can call one pitch a strike and the next same pitch a ball. Saw a bad call the other day that cost the Ray's a game with runners in scoring position.

maistocars 09-10-2022 06:54 AM

I don't understand the elimination of defensive shifts. Heck, these are highly paid pros and if a pro player can't learn to hit where the fielders ain't they shouldn't be in pro ball or hit into more outs because of their deficiencies.

Stu from NYC 09-10-2022 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by maistocars (Post 2134898)
I don't understand the elimination of defensive shifts. Heck, these are highly paid pros and if a pro player can't learn to hit where the fielders ain't they shouldn't be in pro ball or hit into more outs because of their deficiencies.

I agree. Everything has to be pulled and home runs rule. Unfortunately it takes the excitement out of the game.

Too many strikeouts and not enough balls in play

Petersweeney 09-10-2022 07:34 AM

Every other inning should be “kickball” where pitcher rolls a soccer ball and the “batter” has to kick it…..I’d watch that…

Mrfriendly 09-10-2022 07:40 AM

NJ loves big balls
 
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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2134770)
MLB officially passes major rules changes for 2023 season.

MLB officially passes major rules changes for 2023 season

Bigger baseballs will be good for NJ, economy. Bigger baseballs will require more “Jersey Mud” to rub them down before each game creating more jobs. NJ loves Big Balls!

Davonu 09-10-2022 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueHeronFan (Post 2134887)
They do have 3D coverage for pitches but it's currently for replay to show how the pitcher's throws are working…

I’m aware of that, but that is not the same as the actual 3D strike zone. The box shown for the strike zone is just 2D, with the 3D pitch graphic simply showing where that pitch crossed the 2D strike zone box.

Stu from NYC 09-10-2022 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Petersweeney (Post 2134920)
Every other inning should be “kickball” where pitcher rolls a soccer ball and the “batter” has to kick it…..I’d watch that…

Would be a rather empty parking lot.

ccrider 09-10-2022 08:11 AM

Baseball Rules
 
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Originally Posted by garykoca427@gmail.com (Post 2134886)
I am for the changes that are being implemented. I remember watching a Dodger pitcher - Baez - taking about two minutes to throw each pitch. I don't understand why the players could not have solved the problem of stacking the infield all to one side by bunting or hitting the ball to the vacated side, but I guess they can't. And I would not put in an automatic ball and strike robot. Having umpires is part of the charm of the game.

The rule about 2 infielders on each side of second base is like telling a football team they can't blitz the QB because they would have more rushers than the defense has blockers. I remember a long time ago a reporter asked Ted Willaims why he didn't hit the ball to left field when they put the shift on. His reply was that they paid him to hit home runs, not singles. Rulemakers should have left that one alone.

ThirdOfFive 09-10-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by djplong (Post 2134869)
Robo-umps will be here in 2024. I can't find a link at the moment but that "rule change" can't happen until a year after a meeting where it's decided and that meeting is scheduled in 2023.

Unfortunately, they won't be doing it right. As I understand it, instead of the system that basically signals the ump as to whether a pitch is a ball or strike, umps will still call the pitches and there will be another "challenge system" that players or the managers will have to instigate.

The system in question is a true 3-dimensional system, unlike the "2D" boxes you see on regular telecasts. That means that a breaking ball could be in the dirt by the time it gets to the catcher's mitt but still have "nicked the strike zone" on it's way there.

C'mon! Players disputing calls and the crowds booing the umpires is part of the game!

Tom M 09-10-2022 08:55 AM

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Twsells 09-10-2022 09:11 AM

I don’t like the new rules sounds going woke to me where everyone gets on base, gets to steal easier, bigger bags maybe ok pitcher only gets two pickoffs, easy to count that and then steal. It is my favorite sport looks like that may change
Sad!

Rainger99 09-10-2022 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Twsells (Post 2134967)
I don’t like the new rules sounds going woke to me where everyone gets on base, gets to steal easier, bigger bags maybe ok pitcher only gets two pickoffs, easy to count that and then steal. It is my favorite sport looks like that may change
Sad!

I can't see how the two pickoff rule will work. If he throws over a second time, I would imagine the lead would be about 30 feet on the next pitch. I expect that pitchers will only make one pick-off move.

OhioBuckeye 09-10-2022 09:52 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
I wish they would make some changes with NCAA football bowl games too. Way to many teams get to play with to many losses. Who wants to watch some school that you never heard of play in a Bowl game that sounds like it was made up. They got to get back to a 11 to 15 bowl game & quit inventing bowls to make money, because no one wants to see some tiny little school play! Yea, I know it’s all about money but come on!

Babubhat 09-10-2022 12:03 PM

Not going to matter. The number of games is too many to have the players care every day. Much like basketball

Stu from NYC 09-10-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Twsells (Post 2134967)
I don’t like the new rules sounds going woke to me where everyone gets on base, gets to steal easier, bigger bags maybe ok pitcher only gets two pickoffs, easy to count that and then steal. It is my favorite sport looks like that may change
Sad!

Good baserunners know that and will take a longer lead after the first pickoff try and than steal

Stu from NYC 09-10-2022 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2134978)
I wish they would make some changes with NCAA football bowl games too. Way to many teams get to play with to many losses. Who wants to watch some school that you never heard of play in a Bowl game that sounds like it was made up. They got to get back to a 11 to 15 bowl game & quit inventing bowls to make money, because no one wants to see some tiny little school play! Yea, I know it’s all about money but come on!

As long as bowl games make money will have more and more. Do wish they would speed up the game to no more than 3 hours. These 4 hour games take too long

Pinball wizard 09-10-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2134793)
Sadly it does not include the change I think would most improve the game.. Use technology to call balls and strikes. Every single game has myriad wrong guesses by the home plate ump. There is the lovely box on the screen that tells me where the strike zone is and it would so nice if a ball was called a ball and vice versa.

Agreed!

Judge gets more than his share of low balls called strikes. His average would go up 20 points with electronic balls and strikes.

Pinball wizard 09-10-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2134845)
You sure trust that box. Read the official MLB definition of the strike zone. Often the box isn’t even right according to that definition. Plus, the strike zone is 3 dimensional…due to home plate having depth. That really matters on breaking pitches. The box doesn’t reflect that at all.

I think balls and strikes will be automated someday, but I don’t think the tech is quite ready…at least the way it’s shown on the screen today.

I've see quite a few broadcasts replay the pitch call with a 3D home plate. When you are using a center field camera, fairly straight on, the only thing you can display is 2D.

Davonu 09-10-2022 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinball wizard (Post 2135050)
I've see quite a few broadcasts replay the pitch call with a 3D home plate. When you are using a center field camera, fairly straight on, the only thing you can display is 2D.

I've seen the replay cameras that show the pitch crossing the plate from an angle such that the pitch crosses (or not) the full length of the plate. But the ones I've seen are not a representation of the strike zone 'box'. Just the ball passing the plate.

Vikingjunior 09-11-2022 05:26 AM

Wait until a playoff game is decided by someone violating the timer. lol.

WingedFoot78 09-11-2022 05:56 AM

Excitement in the game? It's like watching paint dry.

Bay Kid 09-11-2022 06:49 AM

I haven't watched baseball since they went on strike during the playoffs in the late '80s.

Stu from NYC 09-11-2022 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 2135130)
Wait until a playoff game is decided by someone violating the timer. lol.

They all know the rules

P A Paul 09-11-2022 07:39 AM

The “problem” is the box on the screen. Wish it were optional to watch a game without it. Attention is focused on whether a pitch is called correctly. Extremely distracting on borderline calls. It “IS” what the ump says it “IS”.


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